flamming_python wrote:Man I swear this forum is becoming an Ukro outpost is Yuri from Red Alert 2 active or something?
Give it a break fellas. You want to find out the real picture, read the Rus MoD reports, or the various sitreps that are posted here. No amount of Ukrainian psyops is going to change the basic catastrophic situation for them. No 1-2 M777 howitzers brought in. No nothing.
Some of you guys are completely delusional, panicking over some M777s. Do you know what kind of firepower superiority Russia enjoys everywhere along the front?
If it's not taking out the Ukros as yet, and I don't know whether it is or isn't - so that means it's waiting for them to advance further. Similar to how it was done in Kherson. End of.
You have holidays coming.
The number of comments at the schoolkids level will increase inevitably.
Big_Gazza wrote:
WTF is wrong with these guys? They have been here for years and have been sensible forum members for that time, yet now they are actively spreading the most absurd Ukropi agitprop bullshit. Look at that map... The idiot who put it together expects us to belive that there are areas of liberated Lugansk oblast that the LPR doesn't control, or vast swathes of Kherson and Zaporizhya oblasts that Russian forces don't control... Sheer unmitigated propaganda nonsense.
It is even better
Till the Russians' withdrawal, the status in the north-east was presented as they control the thin line of main roads only, with the other part of the land being in the Ukro hands.
Now, as they withdraw, and Ukrs can stage "an offensive" - those thin lines became "recaptured" waste lands
Russkies have now a decent part of Ukro forces out of the cities, in the field, ready for toasting - and in a reach of cheap barrel artillery - described as a major advance and offensive. What can be better than that?
The true issue is, that it seems that some part of the allied forces there were conscripts from LNR, who get beaten - and what is the most bizarre part, cant crosses the border to Russia because the border guards didn't let them in. So a wave of rage raised among the LNR population, represented by the families. Probably someone screwed that seriously, I would expect a decision at a low command level as they were afraid that they can be Ukros infiltrating the boarder or something.
zorobabel wrote:I spent 8 years defending the Donbass but this is actual retardation. I'm almost at the point of believing the Ukrainians will cross the Donetsk river.
The loss of the battle of Kharkov indicates Russia is ruled by morons. "It's a feint," they say.
Feints are followed by advances. What was the purpose of the feint around Kiev or Kharkov? Russia gave up a suburb of 100k for a village of 2k? Lol
Morons
Bloody Jesus ... Do you even think for a moment, before putting that garbage public?
There was no "battle for Charkov". And no "battle for Kiev".
In each place where Russkies decide to unleash "a battle for X", they just took it. Sooner or later.
That is the main point that you, whining pussies, don't get.
Anyone who doubts the capability of the Russian Army to perform rapid offensive operations on a mass scale, the first two weeks of war should be enough - but that requires using a brain instead of heart.
They have advanced dozens of km DAILY, surrounding the capital, and pushing 500 km inside enemies territory in a bit longer than a week.
Because that was a strategic objective given.
The strategic objective became irrelevant, as the political scene turned out to be unarchivable.
There was no effective political force in Ukraine capable to replace the nazi regime. It was too strong at the moment, strong with a lack of competition rather than anything else.
Still, performing this style of operation required more personnel and was shadowed by the bigger losses - so the whole strategy was reversed.
Small covering forces were kept in the north only to tie the Ukro reserves, making them unable to relocate the troops to the strategic theatres in the south and south-east.
You have a daily load of pics and materials, how bad is a war going for the Ukrs on the theatres considered as strategic.
Sure they grind the ground ahead - but due to that, the soldier's loss is a factor of the opponents. And that is clear.
They are doing now, what any NATO invasion would have been doing in the first few months before putting the forces in - because the Russkies lack NATO opportunities to destroy a midsized European country without any resistance, embargos, media campaign etc.
And they will do it, till the last Ukro standing if needed.
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