Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

JohninMK wrote:Much as many of us on here expected.

On the Telegram channel DruschbaFM there is an interesting post today:

[i]Military conflict vector to be determined within a few months

Dmitry Abzalov, president of the Centre for Strategic Communications, on changing the status of the special operation

This guy is not with the government, he sounds like a nobody

If they send weapons destroy them

If the send trainers kill them

If global economy goes to shit even better

Take your time and keep killing, killing is winning

Dmitry Abzalov is a political scientist with no military background.
One thing he is right about is that war shouldn't be protracted more than it is needed. On the other hand, Ukrainian military needs to be completely defeated and combat capabilities destroyed. No half assed results.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/14159

The Russian Defense Ministry claims that the Ukrainian 25th Airborne Brigade has lost more than 70% of its personnel, but in the documents the dead are deliberately listed as deserters or missing.

Also at night, the command post of the 58th brigade in Bakhmut, a warehouse with 200 tons of Western weapons in Kharkov were destroyed. High-precision weapons delivered strikes on ten areas of the enemy's concentration, including units of the national battalion "Aidar".

Artillery and army aviation hit 27 command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU), 156 points of collection of manpower and equipment, as well as 53 firing positions of enemy artillery batteries. In the Nikolaev region, three more ammunition depots were destroyed.

During an air battle, a Su-25 of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down over the settlement. Bogatyr. Air defense systems intercepted 12 shells over the liberated territories.

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DerWolf wrote:Is it difficult to intercept Himars missiles?

I was going to ask if a system like the Irom Dome is capable of intercepting HIMARS projectiles, and if so, what is its Russian counterpart.

Even the best rockets for the HIMARS are purely ballistic type.   People are running around acting as if Russian anti-missile defenses
are total crap and can't handle this.   GTFO.    

Mercouris is also spewing this crap where he keeps repeating that it will take some time for Russia to tune its interception ability.
This is total nonsense since the equipment is fully functional now.   The only way that there would be "tuning" required is if there
was some super duper stealth coating on the HIMARS missiles making them "invisible" to Russian "radars".   This gets us back to the
stealth wonder waffle fanboi masturbation all over again.    Has anyone seen stealth and HIMARS munitions used in the same paragraph?

He admits he isn't a military guy so he is unaware how this stuff works.

People just don't understand is that you need pantsirs in nearly every facility in order to intercept any mlrs rockets. Mlrs are awesome systems as they shoot and scoot. And because of that, it's easy to shoot and move to avoid being hit in retaliation.

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Map of hostilities and the situation on the fronts on the evening of July 11

The Kyiv regime once again showed its terrorist "talent" - two terrorist attacks at once in a day, in Kharkiv, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, and again the heads of the local VGA became targets. In the first case, alas, the militants achieved their goal - the head of the administration of Veliky Burluk, Yevgeny Yunakov, was blown up in his car by an improvised explosive device planted along the route of the car. The exact same crime was almost played out in Kherson with the head of the VGA Vladimir Saldo, but he was much more fortunate - vigilant citizens noticed a homemade bomb next to the politician's car in time. In Melitopol, the head of the administration of the Melitopol district Andrei Sioguta was attacked - the attacker was liquidated during the arrest.

Let's move on to the situation on the fronts:

Kharkov Front
Ours continue to advance on enemy positions. Fighting in the Svetlichny area. It is reported that the Armed Forces, in addition to transporting equipment, ammunition and using aviation and drones, are mining the area along the Seversky Donets, waiting for the Russians to cross in the area of ​​Stary Saltov. Ukrainian Su-25s and MiG-29s were shot down in the zone of the most active battles.

Izyum-Slavonic Front
Today it was finally announced that Bogorodichne was finally taken under our control. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hurried to retreat from the resort area of ​​the Blue Lakes, which is in the vicinity of Krasny Liman. Pressure on Slavyansk from the north is increasing. The fights are hard, but ours are pressing.

Donetsk Front
Tripoli and Vladimirovka were liberated. The location of these points is such that it will be possible to develop traffic from them both to Soledar and Artemovsk in order to "cut" the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine between the cities on this line. In the area of ​​N. p. Bogatyr shot down a Ukrainian Su-25.

Arrivals
Donetsk, Yasinovataya, Gorlovka, and their environs have traditionally been under shelling since early morning.
Less than an hour ago, the militants attacked Novaya Kakhovka from the HIMARS MLRS - representatives of the regional military administration announced that they had hit a warehouse with saltpeter. According to preliminary data, residential buildings, a hospital and a market were damaged by the explosion, the number of victims is being specified.

Calibrations
In Dnepropetrovsk, our high-precision missiles bombed an ammunition depot for the notorious HIMARS. A powerful blow was struck at Chasov Yar, where the 118th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was located - more than 300 militants were reported killed. In Kharkov, in the Osnovyansky and Slobodsky districts, about 250 militants and up to 25 vehicles and armored vehicles were liquidated.

In the world
It became known that a sabotage group from the Belarusian nationalist detachment "Volat" was captured by the NM of the LPR near Volcheyarovka. This is not the first "Belarusian trophy" of our troops in recent times.

From interesting
After the defeats in Lisichansk and Severodonetsk, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is trying to freeze the conflict in anticipation of full-scale Western assistance. An imaginary “truce” in the future threatens with a significant escalation of hostilities - Readovka explains why any lull at the front and freezing of the conflict now is a total war in the future, and this cannot be done, all the more so now.

Fast tracking of Russian citizenship to all Ukranians WAS long overdue. Hopefully it won't take ages for the Kremlin wise men to stumble upon the logical rock that says the Baltics stooges should be added to the mix as well. Matter of fact, all of the CIS, including "allies"...

If you have a known problem of successfully managing satraps... as has been shown continuously, over time, then your proper course of action is self-evident. Leech the working force of said satraps into your huge country. After all, that is the true value of said satraps, the people that live there that create economic activity. Not only does this leeching should, if managed properly, boost your internal economic activity (aka spur growth), but it also makes the satraps less of a threat were they to switch allegiances to your ardent rivals but also make them weaker and more dependent on you.

These measures should be comprehensive and not an executive stroke of a pen by Putin but it seems only distress and hardship spurs strategic thinking in the Kremlin (short lived too). One of the many flaws of its political culture. The forum has become 4chan + F-16 folded into one (with a Russian flavor - that is, a western view of what Russian flavor is, after all).

JohninMK wrote:Dmitry Abzalov, president of the Centre for Strategic Communications, on changing the status of the special operation:

We have allowed the West to violate every possible boundary. They are supplying HIMARS to Ukraine and sending instructors there. They are now preparing to supply air defence systems.

And? Destroy them as they arrive across the border, America's air defense is the USAF and has nothing comparable to Russia. Patriots are complete garbage and I don't expect much better from NASAMS.

We have little time left to decide on a strategy. Within a few months, we can inflict economic damage on the EU. During this time we will not resolve the issue of Kharkov, Nukolaev and Zaporizhskaya region. Our main objectives now revolve around Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.

The EU is inflicting immense damage on its own economy without Russia lifting a finger, it's embarrassing to be quite honest. 

We can limit the external impact with the collapse of the Western economy. However, by doing so we will only slow down the supply of arms, not stop it. If we declare war on Ukraine, we should prepare for a permanent economic rupture. We can also outline our position on the European direction and recall our ambassadors.

This idiot still thinks there's going to be some kind of normalized relations with the west after this operation is over? I suspect a new iron curtain will form around the EU isolating themselves from Russia and the rest of the world at this rate. People will be shot dead trying to escape from the EUSSR.

In August or September the fate of Kramatorsk must be decided. Everyone will suffer economically from the protracted conflict.

The US & EU will suffer. The rest of the world will continue to trade with Russia, Banderastan be damned.

I do not see how the Donetsk bastion of the Kiev regime will hold out until late fall or winter. It will keep crumbling at the
rate it has been crumbling for well over a month. It is game over after Kramatorsk is captured.

The economic front is not tied to the war front. It has been total war on the economic front and Russia's scheduling in
Donetsk has no relevance. There is an element of chicken little in the analysis where supposedly the arms supplies from
NATzO will somehow become a bigger and bigger problem. With what army? Air defense systems are not going to
save the Kiev regime. It already had actually good S-300 systems. As with HIMARS it is assumed that the
systems will survive any Russian attack. So NATzO weapons systems are immune to Russian attacks but Soviet
systems did not help the Kiev regime army march to glorious victory. This is the nonsense that passes for analysis.

During this war we have had total nonsense interpretations of its progression. When the diversionary force sent to
the Kiev region pulled out it was treated as a major defeat. When the Donbass advance against entrenched regime
forces in bunkers did not proceed at 200 km per day we had more of the same BS and Russia was claimed to be
stalled by NATzO weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian army. NATzO's weapons are serving primarily to help the
Kiev regime attack civilians. They are not affecting their war fighting ability and the ongoing collapse of this ability
in any measurable way.

"The forum has become 4chan + F-16 folded into one (with a Russian flavor - that is, a western view of what Russian flavor is, after all."

ngl pretty based no cap fr fr

Head of the village of Velykyi Burluk in Kharkov oblast was assassinated with a car bomb; he had cooperated with the Russian military. Another assassination like that was prevented in Kherson the other day.

Now Russia should answer with an assassination of Ukraine regime politician.

Backman wrote:Head of the village of Velykyi Burluk in Kharkov oblast was assassinated with a car bomb; he had cooperated with the Russian military. Another assassination like that was prevented in Kherson the other day.

Now Russia should answer with an assassination of Ukraine regime politician.

or SBU HQ with western instructors?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Backman wrote:an.

or SBU HQ with western instructors?

Yes. To have these assassination attacks going on while Mark Rutte struts around Kiev is not a good look to say the least. Russia has to start smashing some heads together of the regime itself. This is insane.

Arkanghelsk wrote:VSU has massed forces near Kherson

They will charge the line across the front

Trying to distract from Donbass

As of now all Ukraine is under air raid warning, massive strikes are happening all over Ukraine

We will see if the VSU will be successful to dislodge the front line

Maybe as in Kharkov, the army could pull back and fight them in open land like Kharkov now

Where are the men coming from ? Maybe Poland is emptying it's jails and throwing them in. Plus some rent a terrorists from the middle east.

We will see if it adds up to anything.

TMA1 wrote:"The forum has become 4chan + F-16 folded into one (with a Russian flavor - that is, a western view of what Russian flavor is, after all."

ngl pretty based no cap fr fr

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After the success of Himars ,destroying Russian command centers ,ammo storage , fuel depots , and likely many russians soldiers too protecting the locations ,the next step would be the supply of ATACMS to Ukraine ,with 300km range.




Why hasn't outdated Russia , developed artillery  similar to HIMARS and ATACMS ,to have an edge in
artillery..   Russia can't use cruise missiles ,as if it was artillery , is too expensive for that.

caveat emptor wrote:Dmitry Abzalov is a political scientist with no military background.
One thing he is right about is that war shouldn't be protracted more that it is needed. On the other hand, Ukrainian military needs to be completely defeated and combat capabilities destroyed. No half assed results.

This is contradictory statement

Either this war isn't protracted and Russia is stuck with Nazi insurgency that will be receiving infinite funding and weapons or they take as much time as needed and exterminate every single Ukrop stupid enough to take up arms against Russia thus solving many problems before they happen

You can only pick one

It seems that Europe is headed for energy collapse in winter, in case of being able to replace gas it will be at a huge economic cost that will trigger inflation.

And I'm sure they will have one of the coldest winters in recent years. Winter is always (ALWAYS) a Russian ally.

Backman wrote:Head of the village of Velykyi Burluk in Kharkov oblast was assassinated with a car bomb; he had cooperated with the Russian military. Another assassination like that was prevented in Kherson the other day.

Now Russia should answer with an assassination of Ukraine regime politician.

You answer by blowing up a power plant somewhere in West Ukraine

Politicians are easily replaceable, infrastructure not so easy and right people will be feeling the heat

Arkanghelsk wrote:...So it could be those Ukrainians in the west that have avoided so far the conflict , but now due to Zelenskys actions are forced to suicide charge the line

Good

Oblige them