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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:04 pm

    Erk wrote:Small news:
    North Korea has become the third UN member to recognize the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. A member of North Korea’s diplomatic mission in Moscow confirmed the move to the news agency RIA on Wednesday. The two Donbass republics had already been recognized by Russia and Syria.

    The more countries that recognize the Donbass republics, the greater legitimacy on the global stage the Russian special operation has. Not that it really maters.



    Did they also recognize Abhazia and South Ossetia?


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports



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    Post  Sprut-B Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:06 pm

    West is also losing propaganda war against Russia.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:09 pm

    Don't respond to me with your ignorant understanding.

    I really mean this, your a clueless twit.

    Its impossible to block all shots fired at you, Ukraine is a wide open battlefield, its impossible to properly protect every single target.

    Only you being the fool you are would actually think its feasible to prevent every single thing.

    They got one ammo depot after weeks of trying big fing deal, so don't waste my time with your internet level clown logic.

    You do not know what fire was focused nor do you know what AD was really there. Your just parroting unproven BS from a video.

    So again I say don't quote me, you are by far one of the dumbest and most full of yourself arm chair generals I have ever seen.

    its a god dam war, ammo depots will get destroyed here and there, and that is FULLY expected that is why you scatter them around.

    going "OMG RUSSIA LOST AN AMMO DEPOT, THEY GOING TO LOSE, WHY DID THEY LET THIS HAPPEN"

    says everything I need to know about your level of intellect Van.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:10 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR reports that the vanguard of the advancing allied forces of the Russian Federation and the LPR has reached the outskirts of Seversk and the troops are already in the city.  Good pace of progress.

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    Looks like recon and special forces are already entering the cities of Seversk and Soledar

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗There are reports that units of the People's Militia of the LPR, together with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, have reached the outskirts of Seversk and Soledar.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:15 pm

    The assistant to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR said that our troops entered the outskirts of Soledar. Earlier it was reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine withdrew from the ruins of Novaya Kamenka, but the fighting for Stryapovka was still ongoing.

    They're attacking them both, soledar is important to get to M03 and cutoff the highway to Artemovsk from rear

    The areas behind seversk and Soledar are flat with nowhere to hide, it's a giant kill area

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:17 pm

    Russian forces have also entered Soledar.

    I predict these cities to fall quickly and the larger battle to take place in Kramatorsk. I don’t include Slovyanks in this because the geography makes it incredibly difficult to defend.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:54 pm

    Some unconfirmed reports claiming half of Soledar has been liberated. This would suggest either a collapse or a pull back as I suggested earlier.

    Waiting for visual proof, that probably won’t come until the morning.

    Wow if this is confirmed seversk and Bakhmut are cut off, and the M03 is under fire control

    The famed Charlie company was defending Soledar

    Either Charlie ran away, or was fixed and destroyed by the shelling last night,

    Guys tonight will be nasty for them, we are seeing a level of shelling not observed since the beginning of the war

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    Post  littlerabbit Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:13 pm

    Considering constant shelling of civilian targets by the military of ex-Ukraine...

    I have watched a very informative video few years ago, I think it was on History channel.

    It was about a battle for Britain in ww2. British officiers said that Luftwaffe was really close to crush RAF, bombing British airfields and other military installations were relentless and RAF was only few weeks from total break down. But...Luftwaffe suddenly started to bomb factories, civilian buildings etc. British generals were very happy because they knew they have won the battle (according to them) at the very moment when Luftwaffe switched from military to civilian targets.

    If we look today at the "strategic" conducts of ex-Ukrainian army, we can see thay are destroying civilians and civilian infrastructure from the day 1.

    Obviously, they have already lost this war or special operation, from the day 1...nevermind the name. russia

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:33 pm

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The Ukrainian General Staff reports that Russian troops and allies are clearing the last villages on the eastern side of Bakhmut

    As indicated in the evening report, the fighting is going on for the settlements of Veselaia Dolina and Pokrovskoye.

    There goes the whole flank

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    Post  Arrow Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:09 pm

    The Russians fortify the south. They are considering the Ukrainian offensive.? Rolling Eyes
    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1547279776028807169?t=94IrcKBvJSyIAM8iJRkbUQ&s=19
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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:09 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Some unconfirmed reports claiming half of Soledar has been liberated. This would suggest either a collapse or a pull back as I suggested earlier.

    Waiting for visual proof, that probably won’t come until the morning.

    Wow if this is confirmed seversk and Bakhmut are cut off, and the M03 is under fire control

    The famed Charlie company was defending Soledar

    Either Charlie ran away, or was fixed and destroyed by the shelling last night,  

    Guys tonight will be nasty for them, we are seeing a level of shelling not observed since the beginning of the war

    Shouldn´t Charlie* be on Russia´s side?  Laughing Laughing Laughing


    * the Americans called the Vietnamese "Charlie"

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    Post  Hole Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:11 pm

    Arrow wrote:The Russians fortify the south.  They are considering the Ukrainian offensive.? Rolling Eyes
    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1547279776028807169?t=94IrcKBvJSyIAM8iJRkbUQ&s=19
    Not enough that the russian AD is mobile, so are there bunkers.  Laughing

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    He clogs half the page with bullshit
    I agree. That's something Garry would have to look into. Put him on ice for few weeks or a month.

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    Post  dionis Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:19 pm

    Is there any info on which parts of Ukraine the reservists and volunteers are coming from? (E.g. west, central, non Donbas east?)
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    Post  Regular Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:46 pm

    dionis wrote:Is there any info on which parts of Ukraine the reservists and volunteers are coming from? (E.g. west,  central, non Donbas east?)

    At this time? From everywhere. UA is trying to muster a meat shield for their more experienced troops.
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    Post  PhSt Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:00 pm

    Regular wrote:

    At this time? From everywhere. UA is trying to muster a meat shield for their more experienced troops.



    If this is the case, Russia needs to locate where experienced Ukro terrorists are hiding and drop a couple dozen FOABS and lob some to the Ukro Rada while they are at it.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:16 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    Regular wrote:

    At this time? From everywhere. UA is trying to muster a meat shield for their more experienced troops.



    If this is the case, Russia needs to locate where experienced Ukro terrorists are hiding and drop a couple dozen FOABS and lob some to the Ukro Rada while they are at it.


    It's a nice thought

    But zelensky is better alive, realize this: Ze contains compromising material on the "big guy" and his porn acting and crack smoking son.

    These 2 have committed very brazen crimes in Ukraine, and it really is the true motivation behind grandpa's intention to fight to the last Ukrainian

    His interest is self preservation

    If you are familiar with Pindo politics, you will see they are in the midst of Jan 6 committee

    Basically, the Republicans are on track to win and the leaks will lead to grandpa's impeachment later on after Republicans sweep the congress

    Ergo Grandpa is fighting for survival, like Ze

    Grandpa would never let Ze leave the country, there's too much dirty laundry

    Or do you really think the clown is playing hero?

    How do you think pindos feel that they do not receive tax breaks or stimulus checks, and pay 6 dollars at the pump

    But the Kievan Sumerians receive 60 Billion USD?

    Ze and Grandpa are strapped to each other in a pilot less Tesla, heading for oblivion

    Russia knows it, the war has no deadline, only goalposts along the way

    As the big guys political career and mental faculties come to an end, this chapter will come to a close as well

    When Orange is back and his band of deplorables , filled with rage after the stolen election of 2020,

    The problems with our president and our country will end, maybe not on an official level

    But orange man has a bone to pick with those who ruined his career, and his economy,

    Our neighbors next door

    Then we can take a chill pill- and Beijing ... well they will be very busy there




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    Post  dionis Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:21 pm

    Regular wrote:
    dionis wrote:Is there any info on which parts of Ukraine the reservists and volunteers are coming from? (E.g. west,  central, non Donbas east?)

    At this time? From everywhere. UA is trying to muster a meat shield for their more experienced troops.

    I mean it would make more sense for Zelensky to try and send the most pro-Russian groups to their likely demise from a political standpoint.

    In other words, "recruit" and send more Eastern-ish and Central Ukrainians (who are more likely to be pro-Russian) out to the front or threaten them with prison (off somewhere in the West of the country where they won't be freed at some point by Russian forces).


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:35 pm

    Do you realize how degenerate these people are? without any exception. they never have a healthy life. They always hide something: pedophilia, pornography, murderous children, drugs.
    I think the last moderately organized Western leader in his lifetime was Ronald Reagan.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:46 pm

    sepheronx wrote:There is actually a general concern here. Kazakhstan is indeed gonna become a problem for russia. And it was no secret the Turks were behind the recent ordeal yet Kazakhstan is still trying to buddy buddy with them.

    Russia isn't stupid so they are probably looking at this very closely and will monitor until it could become a problem. Then they may start to put pressure on Kazakhstan.

    As for its dealing with China, it's OK. Nothing to fear there. But the sanctions stuff? A kick in the face to Russia who actually saved them.

    All it really takes is for Russia and Iran to decide to pull a Molotov-Ribbentrop on Azerbaijan - and that's it, no more Kazakh flirtation with the West, or anyone other than Russia and China either. And Russia and China are not going to make their relations subject to Kazakhstan, they'll cut a deal on it in turn.

    So no there won't be any NATO presence in Kazakhstan at all, and that includes Turkish presence.

    Kazakhstan is just playing its own game and trying to maintain 'multipolarity' but Arkhangelsk is correct, Russia has more pressing issues to worry about then Kazakhstan; and they're not any threat.

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    Post  dionis Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:46 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    Wow if this is confirmed seversk and Bakhmut are cut off, and the M03 is under fire control

    The famed Charlie company was defending Soledar

    Either Charlie ran away, or was fixed and destroyed by the shelling last

    Who are Charlie company? Google being useless...
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    Post  Backman Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:47 pm

    ASB News is really pushing this Iran drones bullshit. Their source. Jake Sullivan.

    Clearly there is high level talks going on with Iran right now. Most likely about Syria. Putin is going to visit Iran next week according to Peskov.

    Im not saying Iran has bad drones. But Iran and Russia don't cooperate very well in arms deals. There is always snags. So this story is bullshit.  Very Happy

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/no-iran-will-not-deliver-armed-drones-to-russia.html

    Now an equally stupid claim was launched by the very same liar who launched the fake Chinese weapons claim.

    White House: Iran set to deliver armed drones to Russia - AP - Jul 7, 2022

    The White House on Monday said it believes Russia is turning to Iran to provide it with “hundreds” of unmanned aerial vehicles, including weapons-capable drones, for use in its ongoing war in Ukraine.
    U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said it was unclear whether Iran had already provided any of the unmanned systems to Russia, but said the U.S. has “information” that indicates Iran is preparing to train Russian forces to use them as soon as this month.

    “Our information indicates that the Iranian government is preparing to provide Russia with up to several hundred UAVs, including weapons-capable UAVs on an expedited timeline,” he told reporters Monday.

    Russia has for some time build mass production facilities for its own drones.

    Russia Reveals New Drone Capabilities, Hinting At What It Could Bring To Bear In Ukraine - Forbes- Dec 23, 2021
    Drone production facility outside Moscow to get into top gear - TASS - Feb 1, 2022
    Russia was lagging behind in drone capabilities, but is now catching up – comment - LTR - Mar 18, 2022
    A decade ago, the Russian Armed Forces possessed fewer than 200 UAVs, and now this figure stands at over 2000, and each year is replenished by 300. Furthermore, the Russian defence industry is conducting R&D on the application of artificial intelligence (AI) in UAVs, with the ambition of enabling them to perform as unified “swarms of drones” in combat zones. Sources claim that this was already tested in 2020, during the Kavkaz-2020 military exercise.
    Russia has absolutely no need to buy drones from Iran. Besides that it is dubious that Iran would be able to deliver some and certainly not 'several hundreds'.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:58 pm

    dionis wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    Wow if this is confirmed seversk and Bakhmut are cut off, and the M03 is under fire control

    The famed Charlie company was defending Soledar

    Either Charlie ran away, or was fixed and destroyed by the shelling last

    Who are Charlie company?  Google being useless...

    Charlie company is a Ukrainian unit trained by the US army

    They are a very experienced unit in the area

    You can hear about them from Belarusian Dima

    On "military summary" in youtube

    Dima is very balanced and has the nice map from
    https://militarymaps.info/

    The website is a Russian site where live updates are submitted by warriors on the front

    The map is the most updated and comprehensive one right now

    Liveuamaps.com is good but it lags in updating territory and doesn't show unit disposition

    Dima recently added another map with units themselves , and made note of Charlie company
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    Post  kvs Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:19 am

    The drones are more HIMARS "game changer" onanism. This is social media "war" and not real war. Gamer faggots are fighting
    glorious battles by proxy. Some wonder waffle is always needed to get desired results. Yes, even Russia needs precious Iranian tech
    or it will lose. When nothing happens gamer faggots just forget and move onto to another "game changer". BTW, I have been
    a gamer for a long time, but I do not fancy myself a real life warrior. Maybe these clowns think that they can turn on God mode.



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:27 am

    The forces of the LPR and Russia entered Seversk, the city is under operational control, said a source close to the People's Militia of the LPR. (Tass)

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