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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:46 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Two days ago, we have morned Jean-Jaques Sempre.
    He was a cartoonist who covered the Rene Goscinny novels.
    Goscinny was a creator of Asterix&Obelix Gall characters, but not worse than that - he has created a Nicolaus series of books for kids.

    Very sad that, the man was a genius,

    I have a cache of 26 Asterix books.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:54 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Dying how? You mean tourists are not coming to popular vacation spots this summer?
    It was Russians (and richer Ukrainians) that all went to these Croatia's, Italy's and Spain's anyhow.

    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:02 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Dying how? You mean tourists are not coming to popular vacation spots this summer?
    It was Russians (and richer Ukrainians) that all went to these Croatia's, Italy's and Spain's anyhow.

    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    Poorer and poorer with a heavy mix of societal collapse. Especially what was driven in last decade with importing people who are completely different from them.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:11 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Dying how? You mean tourists are not coming to popular vacation spots this summer?
    It was Russians (and richer Ukrainians) that all went to these Croatia's, Italy's and Spain's anyhow.

    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    Poorer and poorer with a heavy mix of societal collapse. Especially what was driven in last decade with importing people who are completely different from them.

    The Covid restrictions were several nails in the tourism coffin.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:12 pm

    13.08.2022 (13:15)
    Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

    Allied Forces offensive resulted in the complete liberation of Peski in Donetsk People's Republic.

    High-precision long-range sea- and land-based missiles and multiple rocket launchers struck enemy reserves near Gavrilovka railway station, Kharkov Region, eliminating over 70 servicemen and wounding over 300 of them from 30th Mechanized Brigade of AFU.

    Movement on this section of the railway is completely blocked.

    High-precision strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces against a temporary deployment point of 10th Mountain Assault Brigade near Pereyezdnoye in Donetsk People's Republic have destroyed up to 170 nationalists and 12 pieces of military equipment.

    During Allied Forces offensive near Artemivsk in Donetsk People's Republic, 2 companies of 72nd Mechanised Brigade have been completely destroyed.

    More than 100 nationalists and 10 pieces of military equipment have been destroyed as a result of concentrated strikes on command posts of 66th Mechanized Brigade units and the Right Sector armed formation near Starye Terny in Donetsk People's Republic.

    Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery strikes continue against military facilities in Ukraine.

    HIMARS rocket launcher and its ammunition depot have been destroyed near Kramatorsk, Donetsk People's Republic.

    2 Mi-24 helicopters of Ukrainian air force have been destroyed at helipad near Domanyovka, Nikolaev Region.

    4 command posts, 143 areas of manpower, arms, military and special equipment concentration have also been hit.

    As part of counter-battery warfare, 2 platoons of Grad multiple-launch rocket systems near Soledar and Artemivsk, 3 artillery platoons of Acatsiya guns and 5 platoons of D-30 howitzers at firing positions near Maiorsk, Dzerzhinsk, Zvanovka, Seversk, Pereyezdnoye, Yakovlevka, Fedorovka and Vyemka in Donetsk People's Republic have been suppressed.

    Russian air defence means have destroyed 4 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Tsentralnoye in Nikolayev Region, Suligovka, Shestakovo and Dmitrovka, Kharkov Region.

    In addition, 4 HIMARS rockets have been shot down in the air near Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson region.

    In total, 267 Ukrainian airplanes and 148 helicopters, 1,736 unmanned aerial vehicles, 365 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,297 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 798 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,295 field artillery and mortars, as well as 4,858 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 13, 2022 6:38 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    Welcome to the 3rd World Smile

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    The Covid restrictions were several nails in the tourism coffin.

    That is hardly combined with covid restrictions, still somehow.
    The biggest part of it, is the deterioration of the European economy and expanding scissors of income.
    People can't afford a decent living anymore.
    "The middle class" is not someone who has income, assets, and welfare, but someone who can borrow more.
    Borrowings are modern-time slavery.
    Someone has created this economic model when people are settled to get short-term loans to get consumption goods.
    Not production assets, not fixed capital.
    Short-term borrowings, to pretend to be a middle class.

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:27 pm

    Mir wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    Welcome to the 3rd World Smile

    I suppose that Europe is a better situation than this since I can see the indigenous populations rising
    up (enough) to stop the flood of people who do not intend to assimilate. And that flood will dry up
    even without any "revolution" since the increasing poverty will start to deter them. These migrants
    are nearly 100% economic transplants and not refugees.

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:28 pm

    More M777 destroyed:
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5186

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:29 pm

    2 M113 captured:
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5181

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:48 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Dying how? You mean tourists are not coming to popular vacation spots this summer?
    It was Russians (and richer Ukrainians) that all went to these Croatia's, Italy's and Spain's anyhow.

    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    Spoiled aristocrats. As someone in Russia wrote.

    Europe is going to have to learn to live within its means. The price and availability of resources will normalize, but the EU will not be able to benefit from neocolonialism or the Euro currency's dominance as before. Its elites will have to get used to living in the world that's bereft of their benefits from American unilateral hegemony.


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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:48 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 There are reports of the capture of the villages of Udy and Odnorobovka in the north of the Kharkov region.

    We are waiting for photos or videos from the places.

    if taken, then this significantly improves the position of the RF Armed Forces in the Kharkov direction.
    Seems Ukies are having crisis after crisis... Basicaly beaten on all fronts. Keep them bussy boys.
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5197

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:18 pm

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    ⚔🇺🇸 US Army Admits Major Shortcomings of Anti-Tank Missiles

    ▪A US Army paper cites major shortcomings of US anti-tank weapons (Javelin and AT-4);
    ▪Under training-conditions US soldiers familiar with basic operations of AT weapons had only a 19% effectiveness in hitting targets;
    ▪This was attributed to "a lack of understanding of engagement distances and insufficient detail in planning for employment of the systems;"
    ▪Issues included lack of knowledge of arming distance of missiles & familiarization with setting up engagement areas;
    ▪Advanced training required for conceptualizing engagement area planning as well as in-the-field training;

    If the US has trouble imparting this knowledge on its troops, this problem is many times worse for Ukraine. If trained US soldiers had an effectiveness of 19%, it is much lower for Ukrainian troops lacking even basic soldiering skills. This makes claims that Russia lost "3,000-4,000" tanks to US Javelins, AT-4s, etc dubious at best.
    https://t.me/brianlovethailand/655?single

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:21 pm

    Is there anyone sane who would seriously discuss "3-4k Russian tanks lost"? Laughing

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    Spoiled aristocrats.

    Oh no no no my friend.
    Nothing like that.
    We talk about the ordinary people, who worked hard, and lived a good life in reverse.
    Just the same as it used to be in the peak of the SU.
    40 mln dachas don't come out of nowhere, you know.
    In all the "poor socialist countries" about 25% of the population had extra holiday homes.
    Alongside the ones, they owned with no mortgage.
    Oh no!
    How you can say that, when having a mobile home with no address, two VISA cards (debated over the limit) and a car means "wealthy"? Laughing dunno

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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:43 pm

    Belisarius wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦 There are reports of the capture of the villages of Udy and Odnorobovka in the north of the Kharkov region.

    We are waiting for photos or videos from the places.

    if taken, then this significantly improves the position of the RF Armed Forces in the Kharkov direction.
    Seems Ukies are having crisis after crisis... Basicaly beaten on all fronts. Keep them bussy boys.
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5197
    Keep them bussy. That´s the plan, baby. More and more cracks will appear. First on the frontlines and then inside the regime.

    It seems Col. MacGregor was right with his "finish them off in the next 30 days" prediction.

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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:47 pm


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 26 25aa.png?v=2.2A US Army paper cites major shortcomings of US anti-tank weapons (Javelin and AT-4);
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 26 25aa.png?v=2.2Under training-conditions US soldiers familiar with basic operations of AT weapons had only a 19% effectiveness in hitting targets;
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 26 25aa.png?v=2.2This was attributed to "a lack of understanding of engagement distances and insufficient detail in planning for employment of the systems;"
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 26 25aa.png?v=2.2Issues included lack of knowledge of arming distance of missiles & familiarization with setting up engagement areas;
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 26 25aa.png?v=2.2Advanced training required for conceptualizing engagement area planning as well as in-the-field training;

    If the US has trouble imparting this knowledge on its troops, this problem is many times worse for Ukraine. If trained US soldiers had an effectiveness of 19%, it is much lower for Ukrainian troops lacking even basic soldiering skills. This makes claims that Russia lost "3,000-4,000" tanks to US Javelins, AT-4s, etc dubious at best.
    https://t.me/brianlovethailand/655?single

    That happens when most of your soldiers have trouble to write and read properly. Or math. 2 + 2 = something around 5,2???  Laughing

    They think it´s just like in one of this documentaries they saw on TV. You know, Avengers or Iron Man. Just take the launcher, hit the button and BOOM.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:49 pm

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/russian-soldiers-spare-a-wounded-ukrainian-militant-offer-first-aid/
    You can say what you want, but I´m still more a fan of this behaviour.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:01 pm

    Hole wrote:
    You can say what you want, but I´m still more a fan of this behaviour.

    It is obviously more productive rather than staging cutting the ears off angry

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    Post  RTN Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:02 pm

    Hole wrote:That happens when most of your soldiers have trouble to write and read properly. Or math. 2 + 2 = something around 5,2???  :
    Do you have figures for how effective Russian ATGMs have been in this war in hitting targets?
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    Post  Regular Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:28 pm

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    Finally, they actually managed to seriously damage the bridge. With a glancing hit nonetheless.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:00 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Finally, they actually managed to seriously damage the bridge. With a glancing hit nonetheless.

    First, it looks to be Kachowka - a dam in the background.
    Second, it is not severe damage.
    Still, those crazy hohols will stage some kind of disaster I am afraid.
    But the normal world is watching&knows.

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    Post  Regular Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:05 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    First, it looks to be Kachowka - a dam in the background.
    Second, it is not severe damage.
    Still, those crazy hohols will stage some kind of disaster I am afraid.
    But the normal world is watching&knows.

    Yes, that’s the one.

    Well you can’t fix this with some concrete filler - it needs engineers now.

    No disaster - apparently bridge is closed and will be inspected.

    I am just surprised how many attacks they need per bridge to do structural damage.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:23 pm

    It looks like they caught Strelkov, with fake passport, trying to cross to Zaporozhye from Crimea. He would, probably, try to make some rag tag unit and start big offensive.🤣🤣
    Guy is turning into a meme.

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