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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:30 pm

    August 23, 12:01 pm
    (updated August 23, 12:22)
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Russian air defense shot down a Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft, six UAVs and intercepted 15 MLRS shells in a day

    MOSCOW, 23 August. /TASS/. During the day, Russian air defense systems shot down one Su-27 aircraft, six unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and also intercepted 15 multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) projectiles. This was announced on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "In a day, Russian air defense systems shot down: a Su-27 aircraft in the Barvenkov area of ​​the Kharkiv region, as well as six unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of the settlements of Malye Prokhody, Kapitolovka, Kochubeevka, Balakleya, Kharkоv region and Shiroky in the Donetsk People's Republic. In addition, they intercepted fifteen Ukrainian multiple rocket launchers in the areas of the settlements of Vernopolye, Kharkiv region, Antonovka, Daryevka and Chernobaevka, Kherson region," the lieutenant general said.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/15539225

    August 23, 12:01 pm
    updated August 23, 12:15
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Russian Defense Ministry announced the destruction of two American M777 howitzers in the Dnеpropetrovsk region

    The agency reported that three Ukrainian platoons of Grad multiple rocket launchers and four platoons of D-30 howitzers were also suppressed.

    MOSCOW, 23 August. /TASS/. The Russian Armed Forces (AF) destroyed two American M777 howitzers in the Marganets region of the Dnеpropetrovsk region of Ukraine. This was announced on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "In the course of counter-battery combat, three Ukrainian platoons of Grad multiple launch rocket systems were suppressed in the areas of the settlements of Razdolivka and Opytnoe, four platoons of D-30 howitzers at firing positions in the areas of the settlements of Petrovskoye, Krasnogorovka, Pervomayskoye and Dzerzhinsk of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as two American M777 howitzers in the Marganets area of ​​the Dnеpropetrovsk region," he said

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/15539207

    August 23, 11:56 am
    (updated August 23, 12:12)
    Military operation in Ukraine
    The RF Armed Forces complete the liberation of Maryinka and continue to encircle the AFU group in Avdееvka

    According to the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense Igor Konashenkov, more than 75% of Maryinka is under the control of the allied forces.

    MOSCOW, 23 August. /TASS/. The Armed Forces (AF) of the Russian Federation are completing the liberation of the settlement of Maryinka, more than 75% of which is already under the control of the allied forces, and actions are also ongoing to encircle the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Avdееvka. This was announced on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "The liberation of the settlement of Maryinka, more than 75% of which is already under the control of the allied forces, is nearing completion. The encirclement of the AFU grouping in the Avdееvka area is underway," he said at a briefing on the progress of the special military operation on the territory of Ukraine.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/15539153

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    Post  Hole Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:51 pm

    First sortie of the mighty "ukrainian" air force in days.  cheers Ends in the same way as ever.  pwnd I guess they had no chance to use the game changing HARM this time.  Rolling Eyes

    "In the course of counter-battery combat, three Ukrainian platoons of Grad multiple launch rocket systems were suppressed in the areas of the settlements of Razdolivka and Opytnoe, four platoons of D-30 howitzers at firing positions in the areas of the settlements of Petrovskoye, Krasnogorovka, Pervomayskoye and Dzerzhinsk of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as two American M777 howitzers in the Marganets area of ​​the Dnеpropetrovsk region," 

    So the M777 doesn´t come in platoons anymore.  lol1

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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:58 pm

    If there really are 10 million refugees from Ukraine in Russia, then many of them probably want to go back. This should give Russia
    a large pool of human resources to anchor liberated Ukrainian territory.

    The residence permit system was supposedly still in force in Russia. I think refugees should not be randomly spread into large population
    centers. Settling them on a temporary basis in a few regions proximal to Ukraine would make more sense for security. Refugees
    are not all economic migrants and would at some stage move back back. I understand that there are resource limitations in
    regions to handle so many people. But that does not justify not bothering to build up necessary infrastructure.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:20 pm

    Sometimes I wish that the USA would hand over those "famous" F-15 and F-16 to Ukraine, just to check if the F-15 would then have a ratio of 104:0 in aerial combat. That number (104:0) is of course a lie, just as everything in the West is a lie; those famous and "the best NATO tank" Leopard 2 (milled in Syria by goatfuckers who had neither aviation nor tanks, nor artillery), M777, Baryaktar garbage, Javelin crap, etc.
    And while the special military operation continues, unlike some Nazi sympathizers (who are on this forum), I believe less and less in ANY technological superiority of the West. Yes, they have more aircraft carriers, planes and submarines, but I'm kind of sure it wouldn't make any difference in a war. For a confrontation with a tough opponent, you must have a strong and well-equipped (and trained) ground army. AND THIS IS EXACTLY HERE WHERE THE WEST HAS FAILED IN THE PAST DECADES.

    The West doesn't have the manpower for any major ground operation, so they rely on war like in a video game - a long-range attack on the goatfuckers with the help of aviation and cruise missiles. The West has neither tanks nor artillery, nor does it have valid and reliable air defense. I guarantee with my life that it is easier to destroy any type of aircraft than the S-400 or S-350. Those air defense systems can be in an open field, in a forest, in the mountains, while the plane ALWAYS has to land at the airport.
    The biggest losers in the event of satellite destruction are aviation and surface warships.
    The most tenacious combat systems are ground army units, submarines, air defense and electronic warfare systems. And it seems to me that Russia invested the most in the aforementioned systems, right?

    Yes, both the Su-57 and the T-14 are needed, but it seems to me that the T-14 is more needed. Military boots conquer a certain area and those military boots go with the escort of tanks. And what is that powerful aviation and cruise missiles worth if the global surveillance satellites are destroyed ? Nothing ! And we're back to tanks, artillery, assault rifles, snipers, etc..



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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:34 pm

    Intel Slava Z reports that Russian troops advanced 3 km towards Nikolaev. Any maps out there?
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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:43 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:Sometimes I wish that the USA would hand over those "famous" F-15 and F-16 to Ukraine, just to check if the F-15 would then have a ratio of 104:0 in aerial combat. That number (104:0) is of course a lie, just as everything in the West is a lie; those famous and "the best NATO tank" Leopard 2 (milled in Syria by goatfuckers who had neither aviation nor tanks, nor artillery), M777, Baryaktar garbage, Javelin crap, etc.
    And while the special military operation continues, unlike some Nazi sympathizers (who are on this forum), I believe less and less in ANY technological superiority of the West. Yes, they have more aircraft carriers, planes and submarines, but I'm kind of sure it wouldn't make any difference in a war. For a confrontation with a tough opponent, you must have a strong and well-equipped (and trained) ground army. AND THIS IS EXACTLY HERE WHERE THE WEST HAS FAILED IN THE PAST DECADES.

    The West doesn't have the manpower for any major ground operation, so they rely on war like in a video game - a long-range attack on the goatfuckers with the help of aviation and cruise missiles. The West has neither tanks nor artillery, nor does it have valid and reliable air defense. I guarantee with my life that it is easier to destroy any type of aircraft than the S-400 or S-350. Those air defense systems can be in an open field, in a forest, in the mountains, while the plane ALWAYS has to land at the airport.
    The biggest losers in the event of satellite destruction are aviation and surface warships.
    The most tenacious combat systems are ground army units, submarines, air defense and electronic warfare systems. And it seems to me that Russia invested the most in the aforementioned systems, right?

    Yes, both the Su-57 and the T-14 are needed, but it seems to me that the T-14 is more needed. Military boots conquer a certain area and those military boots go with the escort of tanks. And what is that powerful aviation and cruise missiles worth if the global surveillance satellites are destroyed ? Nothing ! And we're back to tanks, artillery, assault rifles, snipers, etc..




    Wait Leopard 2 better than Abrams? Then again Abrams tanks are ied bait and it would be interesting to see what a T-72 with modern armor package and fully charged shells and not training rounds would do against the "invincible" Abrams. Also, how would it fair in an environment when it did not enjoy close air support. We are learning in this war that for all the trillions of dollars the Pentagon fleeced from the American people over the past few decades that it's weapons aren't all that superior to their Soviet and counterparts and in the hands of poorly trained and badly led forces they are almost completely ineffective except at killing civilians.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:32 pm

    12:56 ,08/23/2022 (updated: 14:05 08/23/2022)

    Allied forces established control over part of the Nikolaev region
    The Ministry of Defense of Russia announced the withdrawal of troops to the administrative border of the Nikolaev region


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    MOSCOW, August 23 - RIA Novosti. The Russian army, together with units of the DPR and LPR, reached the administrative border of the Nikolaev region, the Ministry of Defense told reporters.
    During the offensive in the Kherson-Nikolaev direction in the Aleksandrovka area, the allied forces destroyed units of the 28th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the report says.

    “36 square kilometers of the territory of the Kherson region were taken under control. The settlement of Komsomolskoye was liberated, the advance into the depth of the enemy’s defense in this direction amounted to three kilometers. Control was established over the territory of the Nikolaev region with an area of ​​12 square kilometers,” the Ministry of Defense said.

    In addition, the allied forces are successfully developing an offensive in the Donetsk direction, the military department added. There, the liberation of Maryinka is being completed, more than 75 percent of which has already been taken under control, actions are continuing to encircle the AFU grouping in the Avdeevka area, and in the Kodema area, the elite unit of the AFU, the 214th battalion "Opfor", is blocked from three sides and systematically destroyed.

    In the Artemovsk area, the troops of Russia, the DPR and the LPR advanced close to Zaitsevo, an important center of the city’s defense. Near Andreevka (Zaporozhye region), they inflicted significant losses on the 35th Marine Brigade and the 46th Airmobile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and in the Kherson region they drove the enemy out of the village of Blagodatovka and nearby settlements.

    https://ria.ru/20220823/ukraina-1811529900.html

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    Post  Backman Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:44 pm

    This idea that there could be millions of anti Russia Ukrainian terrorists in Moscow is bunk. This woman was just a mule. Where did she get the explosives? The detonator ? The license plates ? How did she get some cameras shut off ? All from SBU/CIA.

    Russia just has to laser focus on uprooting and destroying the SBU. From both the territory of Russia and Ukraine. Regular ppl do not do terror attacks. It is very rare.

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    Post  calripson Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:20 pm

    Immediately after the terrorist attack, the fugitive Russian opposition politician Ilya Ponomarev claimed his alleged involvement in the murder of Daria. The Russian ultraliberal political section indirectly claimed responsibility for the organization of the assassination through Ilya.
    With a satisfied grin, he told how the murder was allegedly being prepared in his interview on August 21. He hastened to deny the involvement of Natalia Vovk and Sofia Shaban in the assassination after the FSB accused them. Immediately after the incident, he announced the creation of the so-called National Republican Army (NRA), which took responsibility for the murder of Daria Dugina and for other terrorist acts in Russia. Soon after his interview, terrorist threats were spread on the social media accounts allegedly linked to the NRA with calls for attacks on civil servants and security forces, businessmen and even usual citizens who support the Russian government.n 1998-2014, Ponomarev held senior positions in Khodorkovsky’s YUKOS. In 2001, he became Vice President of IBS holding, which received a budget contract for the implementation of the Electronic Russia program worth about 30 billion rubles, the Skolkovo Foundation. He was an adviser to Chairman Vekselberg, a long-time business partner and friend of Chubais.

    At the same time, Ponomarev engaged in political activity and closely cooperated with Surkov, who at that time oversaw domestic policy in the Presidential Administration.

    This in a nutshell sums up who ultimately is behind the anti-Russian actions in the West and why Russia had such a dysfunctional state policy where one hand seems to contradict the other. Keep in mind this man was in the Russian State Duma until a few years ago. A Khodorkovsky insider, connected to Vekselberg and Chubais, who received 30 billion for the Russian Silicon Valley Skolkovo scam under Medvedev.


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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:26 pm

    Russia is quaking at the prospect of the mighty terror of liberasts.   This is an ultra-joke.    Maybe these "gyrostrats" were able to
    create enough noise in the early 1900s tapping into the social stratification under the old aristocratic order.   But they have nothing
    to feed off of today other than NATzO money.    All those Navalny hamsters are not going to be the foot soldiers of the new revolution.
    What Ponomarev is accomplishing is that his ilk will be actively suppressed by the population and not the sate.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:30 pm

    kvs wrote:Russia is quaking at the prospect of the mighty terror of liberasts.   This is an ultra-joke.    Maybe these "gyrostrats" were able to
    create enough noise in the early 1900s tapping into the social stratification under the old aristocratic order.   But they have nothing
    to feed off of today other than NATzO money.    All those Navalny hamsters are not going to be the foot soldiers of the new revolution.
    What Ponomarev is accomplishing is that his ilk will be actively suppressed by the population and not the sate.

    Most threats are either trolling or people from Ukraine and not Russia. This will just further Putins control and will give the population the OK to further crack down on such people.

    This is such a silly joke too. If they were of any real threat This "NRA" would have acted long ago.

    There isn't real way for them to transfer money either. Hence why it's Ukrainians from Ukraine anyway.

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    Post  Hole Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:01 pm

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    Chechens already sharpening their knives. IF needed. 
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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:24 pm

    kvs wrote:
    What Ponomarev is accomplishing is that his ilk will be actively suppressed by the population and not the sate.
    I hope that you are right. From personal experience, average person is stupider and with shorter memory than we think.
    Whitewashing Khodorkovsky in Russia was already started years ago by liberals. He was usually portrayed as entrepreneur and victim of Kremlin's antidemocratic tendencies.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    What Ponomarev is accomplishing is that his ilk will be actively suppressed by the population and not the sate.
    I hope that you are right. From personal experience, average person is stupider and with shorter memory  than we think.
    Whitewashing Khodorkovsky in Russia was already started  years ago by liberals. He was usually portrayed as entrepreneur and victim of Kremlin's antidemocratic tendencies.

    And yet you should be aware that the Liberals are hated more than ever in Russia. Their ratings have dropped significantly with many of them more or less fleeing Russia because of a growing hate for them.

    Try not to over emphasize their importance. Already their institutions are being taken down with the education being first to be reworked into "Patriot education".

    Nobodies and people with very little popularity can scream all they want. They have proven to rest of Russia they are not wanted anymore.

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    And yet you should be aware that the Liberals are hated more than ever in Russia.  Their ratings have dropped significantly with many of them more or less fleeing Russia because of a growing hate for them.

    Try not to over emphasize their importance.  Already their institutions are being taken down with the education being first to be reworked into "Patriot education".

    Nobodies and people with very little popularity can scream all they want.  They have proven to rest of Russia they are not wanted anymore.

    Some are, i agree. But, color me sceptical for the time being. For fundamental shift years are needed.

    And I'm not talking about oligarchs, like Vekselberg. Most of them will cross to patriotic camp, if they have a lot to lose.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:47 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    And yet you should be aware that the Liberals are hated more than ever in Russia.  Their ratings have dropped significantly with many of them more or less fleeing Russia because of a growing hate for them.

    Try not to over emphasize their importance.  Already their institutions are being taken down with the education being first to be reworked into "Patriot education".

    Nobodies and people with very little popularity can scream all they want.  They have proven to rest of Russia they are not wanted anymore.

    Some are, i agree. But, color me sceptical for the time being. For fundamental shift years are needed.

    And I'm not talking about oligarchs, like Vekselberg. Most of them will cross to patriotic camp, if they have a lot to lose.

    It's a rather standard that youth tend to be liberals just for the rebel mentality of things yet patriotism has grown considerably among the youth.

    The problem are the dopes from the mid to late 90's were born, and only concept of hardship they know is the Putin era and due to shit education at the time, mixed with libtard media and leadership of many, those are the problematic adults (if we can call them that). Thankfully their numbers aren't as high.

    There will always be traitors, fifth columnists and opportunists. But it's how the security forces handle this situation and I'm guessing they will be getting a funding boost very very soon if not already.

    Loom at Ukraine. Russia is in it, fighting against people who been brainwashed for so long. Yet there are more than enough of them assisting Russia both in the Ukraine and outside.

    Worrying about make belief "insurgents" and the words from a traitor who lied through his teeth most of his life - doesn't mean we should trust his words now

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:03 am

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2022/08/103_334900.html

    "The history of the DPRK-Russia friendship will go down forever century after century," the official added.

    North Korea really milking the world situation for all that it's worth Twisted Evil

    Good. It's in a time of crisis you learn who your friends are.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:16 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Zaporozhye and the Dnieper, the Tu-22M3 has already been working, sending X-22 and X-32 missiles to Khokhols

    Kharkov is getting rocked hard by Iskanders

    🇷🇺 🇺🇦 ⚡Air Raid Alerts issued for Southern, Central and Eastern Ukrainian Oblasts.

    🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Zaporozhye and the Dnieper, the Tu-22M3 has already been working, sending X-22 and X-32 missiles to Khokhols

    Happy Ukrainian Independence Day everyone! Enjoy the fireworks 🎆 provided by Russia 🇷🇺

    TU-95 comms active. Brace for shock.

    Looks like all the toilets got thrown at Ukraine this morning

    Happy independence day bitch kokaina

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    Post  Backman Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:41 am

    Scott Ritter does an interesting interview with a retired Russian foreign intelligence service director. Scott asks something about the territories that Russia has taken . "is this Novorussia?"  The guy says no. This is real Russia. Something along those lines

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:24 am

    That number (104:0) is of course a lie, just as everything in the West is a lie; those famous and "the best NATO tank" Leopard 2 (milled in Syria by goatfuckers who had neither aviation nor tanks, nor artillery), M777, Baryaktar garbage, Javelin crap, etc.

    To be fair they are OK against third world countries with no outside support, but even Iranian support makes the Houthies a capable force.

    These western systems against Russia however are generally inferior to Soviet equivalents so of course they are not going to do so well, and against proper air defences then drones don't last too long either.

    What this conflict has showed is the importance of air defence... and the lack of decent air defence in HATO is going to bite them in the arse now Russia is boosting its drone numbers as well as numbers of aircraft and other equipment.

    Immediately after the incident, he announced the creation of the so-called National Republican Army (NRA), which took responsibility for the murder of Daria Dugina and for other terrorist acts in Russia.

    His British friends will love that....

    I hope that you are right. From personal experience, average person is stupider and with shorter memory than we think.
    Whitewashing Khodorkovsky in Russia was already started years ago by liberals. He was usually portrayed as entrepreneur and victim of Kremlin's antidemocratic tendencies.

    All Russian criminals escaping Russia are heros fleeing Putins oppressive rule... whether it was that doping sports guy or any of the other many thieves that Putin stopped from stealing like Bill Browder.

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    Post  Belisarius Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:36 am

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    A supposedly “leaked document” has appeared on the internet which claims to show an internal report from the Ukrainian side which speaks of the losses for the armed forces of Ukraine.

    At the beginning of July, the armed forces include:

    dead - 76640
    wounded - 42704;
    prisoners - 7244;
    missing - 2816; non-combat losses - 1610.

    Total - 131014 people.

    Losses in other law enforcement agencies (SBU, NGU, GPSU, etc.) are not included in these numbers.


    This is obviously unconfirmed and can easily be disinformation, but it is what’s circulating at the moment.
    https://t.me/asbmil/4325

    It is nearly impossible for the number of wounded to be lower than the number of killed, as a rule of every war ever, the number of wounded is always about 3x higher than the number of killed.

    That document understates that number heavily.

    If 76.6k are dead, about 150k to 180k are wounded.
    https://t.me/asbmil/4326

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:54 am

    There's a lot more than that missing

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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:58 am

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    From Russians With Attitude. They couldn´t verify it but there are claim that this are real text messages between active american soldiers. If true then weapons are taken
    from active units and send to the Nazi regime. 

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    Nazis tried to attack the Crimea bridge.  Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:12 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    It is nearly impossible for the number of wounded to be lower than the number of killed, as a rule of every war ever, the number of wounded is always about 3x higher than the number of killed.

    That document understates that number heavily.

    If 76.6k are dead, about 150k to 180k are wounded.

    Maybe not in this situation where 122mm and larger are doing the damage not 7.62mm and smaller as in past fights.

    Also, as we know rapid medical support for the wounded saves lives, that must be very difficult when say a barracks has been Kalibered or a bunker pulverised.

    I think the figures could be realistic, especially as FP says they will exclude the missing (both dead and wounded).

    Also they will be based on recorded figures. I'm pretty sure I remember that back at the start some UA person said that they only recorded as wounded those who made it back to a proper medical facility. Plus they need a body, not someone vapourised or still under 100 tons of rubble so hence 'missing'.

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