Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

limb wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

sepheronx wrote:
What was wage growth, rate of property onwership and access to utilities in chile during pinochet? Latin american capitalists are the worst. You'd sell out your own country's entire wealth in order to suck the US member. This is the result of the dysfunctional iberian system of oligarchic land ownership, where nothing mattered, except noble privileges and exploiting the landless majority to max.

BTW you stand for something peron was against.

Peron was not a communist, Allende was.
The Chilean economy did nothing but grow in 1980 and 1990. Stability, inflation, employment. If I think your health and private education policy is wrong. A balance between public and private. I am not a neoliberal, but you need private property and free enterprise. The socialists repress this to spread corruption and to give alms to parasitic and unproductive sectors.

Entire free market latin america, especially argentina, with its garbage aircraft designs, was parasitic and unproductive, especially the owenrs of the free enterprise, who took the role of the white iberian landowning nobility.

Belisarius wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:I began to doubt Russia the moment I saw how the Ukrainians use drones to the fullest, and the Russians found out late. How can it be that a country with the technology and scientific resources of Russian has to buy second-hand drones from the Iranians. That is not propaganda. It is real that drones are a problem and you did not know it before starting the operation.
Didn't you realize they were important in modern warfare? You couldn't create an electronic warfare program? that sabotages the drones.
It reminds me of how the first world war started with the cavalry facing the machine guns. This is unacceptable for a country like Russia.

Oh yes because the Russians don't have more than 1500 Orlan-10 which are being used extensively since the beginning of the conflict

For most of these worrywarts, if they didn't see it on tv or youtube then it didn't happen. I've come to realize that a lot of "pro-russians" don't actually give a shit about Russia or Russians at all, they just want to see blood spilling on Ukrainian soil and they don't care who's veins its gushing out from as long as its captured on drone footage for their viewing/wanking pleasure.

limb wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

limb wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:

sepheronx wrote:
What was wage growth, rate of property onwership and access to utilities in chile during pinochet? Latin american capitalists are the worst. You'd sell out your own country's entire wealth in order to suck the US member. This is the result of the dysfunctional iberian system of oligarchic land ownership, where nothing mattered, except noble privileges and exploiting the landless majority to max.

BTW you stand for something peron was against.

Peron was not a communist, Allende was.
The Chilean economy did nothing but grow in 1980 and 1990. Stability, inflation, employment. If I think your health and private education policy is wrong. A balance between public and private. I am not a neoliberal, but you need private property and free enterprise. The socialists repress this to spread corruption and to give alms to parasitic and unproductive sectors.

Entire free market latin america, especially argentina, with its garbage aircraft designs, was parasitic and unproductive, especially the owenrs of the free enterprise, who took the role of the white iberian landowning nobility.

And thats the end of that story. Now back to the SMO

I'm wondering if those Iranian drones are designated for LDNR forces and not necessarily Russian? If it is Russian, I hope they got full tech transfer so Russia produces then locally with Russian parts.

^ I spot a scumbag that should be assassinated. Top picture , on the right. I can't see how Kazakhstan can be allowed to leave the CSTO. This should be the last time Putin sits in a meeting with that bastard.

JohninMK wrote:This is how to do it. Don't look big bombs.

They are missiles. Probably Ka-52 firing. Love the chat…

JohninMK wrote:This is how to do it. Don't look big bombs.

Nice how the flight of the first one was corrected a little to hit the truck. But there was never any air defence except for some MANPADS.

JohninMK wrote:

Regular wrote:

JohninMK wrote:This is how to do it. Don't look big bombs.

They are missiles. Probably Ka-52 firing. Love the chat…

No fabled NATO MANPADs then.

Yes, also it could be that they are firing from the cover of trees or hills. Izdeliye 305 is very potent.

limb wrote:

Entire free market latin america, especially argentina, with its garbage aircraft designs, was parasitic and unproductive, especially the owenrs of the free enterprise, who took the role of the white iberian landowning nobility.

Iberian nobility? what are you taking about? LOL And what is the problem if Argentina was founded by Spaniards? You were a servant of nobles until 1870. You didn't even fight for your freedom while we waged a war of independence here and drove the English out of Buenos Aires twice.

Dude, you seriously want to debate who lived better. Argentina until 1980 had living standards similar to Sweden. Argentina got worse after Malvinas and with democracy. Just like Russia in 1990.
There are places that are paradises.
Here you eat beef and wine, while in the communism of the 60s (the best stage of the USSR) and they still rationed food like animals. Don't speak if you don't know.
The communism promoted by the Soviet Union was misery, ignorance and poverty. But they were fought.
The rest of Latin America does not matter. I don't even know them. You compare Argentina with what? lol with Ecuador, Nicaragua, Venezuela? That must be Latin America for you. Venezuela, a shitty, banana-producing country that depends on oil and with the highest crime rate in the world. Yes, countries that in many cases are allies of Putin.

An advice. Choose your allies better.

caveat emptor wrote:

Serberus wrote:
Happy to eat my words and admit I am wrong , IF I am proven to be. However at this stage I stand by what I said. Just because the Russians ran and allowed them to take over most of these places with minimal resistance doesn't make it a phantom victory.

Also thousands of civilians fled alongside the troops and many failed to get out who are now hunted for reprisals, you cant just brush that aside like its nothing, it was betrayal pure and simple. If they defended properly , stood firm and still lost fair enough, but to call it a redeployment (real or imagined) while knowing full well so many people would be displaced and killed as a result, its despicable.

Yep, i immediately got Oluja-like vibes from this thing.

Same here, I can't shake the feeling that we might be getting slightly different version of 1995 Krajina/Srpska ditching

Whole thing follows the same scenario that led up to it, it's even the same time of year

Back then they were telling us how everything was just fine despite those left over there being cut loose and thrown to the dogs and then one day WHAM!!! they were unceremoniously flushed down the shitter while our own government was playing dumb and pretending those people and entire war never even existed

I hope for the best but it's not beyond reason to expect that Putin &Co might be trying to pull Milosevic on everyone here (they do understand that it did not save him from what came next?)

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong but experience have taught me what to expect in these situations and this one has all the recognizable symptoms

Here we go. I don't think this is particularly good for Russia. We all know that it is FAKE. But we don't own the entire world media. It could have all been avoided. Very easily.

ALAMO wrote:Some of you are so much outraged, that misses the whole point.
Again: the Wagner, and other PMCs along the planet, are doing that like forever.
It is Wagner and other Russian PMC, that conquered the Africa, and constituted Russia there.
In countries they never have been represented, and some of them under a heavy pressure of France. A de facto colonies.
Questioning something that works for years, and brings great results, due to some present hype and outrage of silly primadonnas is utterly stupid.

Ones that worked in Africa weren't pulled straight from prisons in the middle of war

The city of Valuyki in the Belgorod region is under large-scale shelling and missile attacks.

https://t.me/swodki/163073
https://t.me/swodki/163082
https://t.me/swodki/163092
https://t.me/swodki/163091
https://t.me/swodki/163099

The city is without power.

Reportedly the first major attack on Russia since 1969.

Have missiles like Svir been used at all during the conflict? Any videos?

franco wrote:On a positive note in regards to Russian pulling back to the border... conscripts can be deployed for combat inside Russia proper.

Yeah I know, it is a stretch!

They're not even using contractors as much as they should.

Hole wrote:

ALAMO wrote:More probably, it is FAB-250SzN (ФАБ-250ШH). It is a 250 kg general purpose parachute retarded aerial bomb.

You can´t say retarded anymore. This a "special" bombs. 

'With difficulties in development and with disabilities' is the new term

(We just got an updated instructions during faculty meeting literally today)

This is far from a conventional war, papadragon. It is also one particularly thick with thr fog of war. But I am no Russian or Serbian so I dont think I have the same skin in the game (though I think sooner than later we Americans might not be so far removed from the blowback that our meddlings have caused as in the past). The behavior of western press and politicians the past week has been a bit unusual. I think Russia is in a very precarious situation. Difference being Russian leaders and it's people are far more aware of this than western politicians and people. This is fundamentally important.

Putin isnt retarded. He plays a good game of politics and he surrounds himself with good people. This war is 10 percent politics and 90 percent political and propaganda theatrics. Guess it has always been this way but technology has made it much easier to see. Very unsettling. I am growing to hate my own governments which is fast proving to be illegitimate. I loathe the others almost as much, but there is something satanic deep in the bosom of the west. I hate to see it.

...they really do want Russia to mobilize. Holy shit our leaders here in the west are insane. Feel like they are kids who know they are soon to be caught by parents for wrong doing and drag everyone else around with them to punishment. God be with you, homies. Shit is getting weirder by the minute. Hope you ruskies are hanging in there.

TMA1 wrote:...they really do want Russia to mobilize. Holy shit our leaders here in the west are insane. Feel like they are kids who know they are soon to be caught by parents for wrong doing and drag everyone else around with them to punishment. God be with you, homies. Shit is getting weirder by the minute. Hope you ruskies are hanging in there.

Thing is that they don't need to mobilize. Just to use what they already have. Why the **** are contractors getting salary to begin with?

Bro there arent enough of them and even then their use is pretty unique, largely bring a force multiplier in certain kinds of cases. What Russia needs is it's standard military units working like they are usually trained. The poor militias and donbass regulars need backup. As I said thr situation is so dangerous. Not just for Russia but for Europe too. We are sacrificing europe to topple russia. God is going to have an accounting for what we have done.

TMA1 wrote:Bro there arent enough of them and even then their use is pretty unique, largely bring a force multiplier in certain kinds of cases. What Russia needs is it's standard military units working like they are usually trained. The poor militias and donbass regulars need backup. As I said thr situation is so dangerous. Not just for Russia but for Europe too. We are sacrificing europe to topple russia. God is going to have an accounting for what we have done.

I really doubt that more than 80k Russian soldiers are deployed in Ukraine. If they can't deploy 150k between Rosgvardia and Army, i don't know what to say. Plus you have another 30k, at least, of volunteers by now.