Russian special military operation in Ukraine #25

Present situation around Lyman and to the north of it. It doesn't look easy atm. Ukrainians created a sizable bridgehead on left side of Oskol/Severskiy Donets.

caveat emptor wrote:Present situation around Lyman and to the north of it. It doesn't look easy atm. Ukrainians created a sizable bridgehead on left side of Oskol/Severskiy Donets.

Where is the 3rd army ?

More importantly why haven't the VKS begun to carpet bomb the VSU on the front?

^ Probably the rigidity of the bureaucracy. They are stuck with the rules of SMO until the right papers are signed I guess. Overly legalistic bs. FFS it is so frustrating.

Backman wrote:^ Probably the rigidity of the bureaucracy. They are stuck with the rules of SMO until the right papers are signed I guess. Overly legalistic bs. FFS it is so frustrating.

They just need to fly high and bomb them , drop FAB 500 from tu22m3 and tu95 at high altitude protected by su35

And su34 and su25 down low hunting SAMS

It's not good, because if Lyman falls they have open doors to attack Lysychansk-Severodonetsk agglomeration from the north.

China behaving like an autistic borderliner again.

Taiwan is pending.. Better pick a side lest you'll be next with no friends left.

sundoesntrise wrote:China behaving like an autistic borderliner again.

Taiwan is pending.. Better pick a side lest you'll be next with no friends left.

These slant eyed bastards cannot be trusted. They are not real friends. If I'm Russia, I would not back China on the Taiwan issue. I would be neutral. Especially if more idiotic rhetoric like this comes from Beijing.

Backman wrote:^ Probably the rigidity of the bureaucracy. They are stuck with the rules of SMO until the right papers are signed I guess. Overly legalistic bs. FFS it is so frustrating.

Agreed. Russian bureaucracy is notorious for its rigidity or stupidity. Call it as you like.

caveat emptor wrote:It's not good, because if Lyman falls they have open doors to attack Lysychansk-Severodonetsk agglomeration from the north.

Calm down, Russia will get all this territory back. I was skeptical before but now after the mobilization it shows Russia is serious and ready to take it to the ukronazi bastards.

billybatts91 wrote:
Calm down, Russia will get all this territory back. I was skeptical before but now after the mobilization it shows Russia is serious and ready to take it to the ukronazi bastards.

I'm not panicking at all. Just looking at the map.

The General Staff told who will be called up in the framework of partial mobilization


As part of the partial mobilization, riflemen, tankers, gunners, drivers and mechanics will be called up. This was announced on September 22 by the representative of the Main Organizational and Mobilization Department of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Rear Admiral Vladimir Tsimlyansky.

"As part of the partial mobilization, categories of citizens who are necessary to perform tasks will be called up. These are, of course, shooters, tankers, gunners, drivers, mechanics-drivers, " he said.

At the same time, Tsimlyansky noted that as such, the order of conscription of citizens who are in reserve has not been established. However, priority is given to citizens who have suitable military accounting specialties. Thus, one of the main factors is the presence of combat experience among citizens called up from the reserve, the rear Admiral pointed out.

"As part of the partial mobilization, citizens with both officer ranks
and the ranks of private and non-commissioned officers will be called up," the representative of the General Staff added.

According to him, during the first day of partial mobilization, about 10 thousand conscripts arrived at the military commissariats independently, without waiting for a summons to be received.

Tsimlyansky also said that those citizens of the Russian Federation who are outside the country on a short trip and at the place of residence in Russia are on the military register can be called up for military service as part of a partial mobilization.

Yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on partial mobilization in Russia. The Head of State pointed out in his address to the citizens that this decision was made to protect Russia, its sovereignty, territorial integrity and ensure the security of the Russian people.

Mobilization activities began on the same day. Conscripts will be required to undergo military training. Conscription for military service will be subject only to those citizens who are in the reserve, and first of all those who served in the armed forces, have certain military accounting specialties and relevant experience.

All mobilized citizens will have the status of military personnel serving under a contract, and the corresponding level of monetary support.

In particular, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu noted that neither students of military universities nor conscripts will be affected by this process. Also, an installment plan from conscription is provided to employees of enterprises of the military-industrial complex. The Minister pointed out that Russia has a huge mobilization resource of those who have served and have combat experience-almost 25 million of them. About 300 thousand people are subject to partial mobilization.

Russia continues the special operation to protect the Donbass, which the Russian president announced on February 24. The key objectives of the special operation are to protect the DPR and LPR, as well as denazification and demilitarization of the Kiev regime. Moscow has repeatedly stressed that strikes are conducted only on military infrastructure.

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.3b76ba16-632c85cf-98c1f54b-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1399601/2022-09-22/v-minoborony-rasskazali-kto-budet-prizyvatsia-v-ramkakh-chastichnoi-mobilizatcii

The General Staff listed groups of citizens who are not subject to mobilization


Citizens who are constantly caring for a family member, or who are disabled in Group I, are not subject to conscription in the framework of partial mobilization. This was announced on September 22 by Vladimir Tsimlyansky, a representative of the Main Organizational and Mobilization Department of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.

"The following will not be called up: reserved citizens, including employees of defense industry enterprises, citizens who are temporarily unfit for military service for health reasons, citizens who are engaged in permanent care of a family member or are disabled in Group I," Tsimlyansky said.

In addition, citizens who have four or more dependent children under the age of 16 are not subject to mobilization.

Tsimlyansky also noted that citizens whose mothers, in addition to them, have four or more children under the age of eight and raise them without a husband will not be called up.

The day before, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on partial mobilization.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu noted that Russia has a huge mobilization resource of those who have served and have combat experience — almost 25 million of them. A little more than 1% is subject to partial mobilization. In total, 300 thousand people will be called up.

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.3b76ba16-632c85cf-98c1f54b-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1399602/2022-09-22/v-minoborony-rossii-perechislili-gruppy-ne-podlezhashchikh-mobilizatcii-grazhdan

million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

Novaya Gazeta as a source is a guaranteed bait&fuckup.

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

Seriously? Alex Cocksucker is your source? 
And Novaya Gazeta EU? 
Two mastesr of inventing news always with anonymous sources and whatnot. Get a grip man.

Give them some space
Bullshit about Russkies storming the border crossings has been already debunked, in opposite to the Ukro official tariffs to bail out
So new shitload to the rescue!

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

'According to independent Russian media'?

billybatts91 wrote:

sundoesntrise wrote:China behaving like an autistic borderliner again.

Taiwan is pending.. Better pick a side lest you'll be next with no friends left.

These slant eyed bastards cannot be trusted. They are not real friends. If I'm Russia, I would not back China on the Taiwan issue. I would be neutral. Especially if more idiotic rhetoric like this comes from Beijing.

Skip the racist-sounding jargon. "Slant eyed bastards", really?

Some Chinese officials sugarcoat their public announcements,  but there's already multiple PLAAF Y-20s flying into Moscow each week carrying something (?), there is a lot of "suspicious" train traffic, and statements by other officials that don't rhyme at all with these western-directed ditto.

Stuff is going on.

flamming_python wrote:

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

'According to independent Russian media'?

Screenshot these tweets. Some of us are since long blocked by certain morons, and it's a pain to copy and paste URLs into incognito browser tabs on mobile.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

'According to independent Russian media'?

Screenshot these tweets. Some of us are since long blocked by certain morons, and it's a pain to copy and paste URLs into incognito browser tabs on mobile.

here

thegopnik wrote:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

thegopnik wrote:million man mobilization? https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1572915537684090882

'According to independent Russian media'?

Screenshot these tweets. Some of us are since long blocked by certain morons, and it's a pain to copy and paste URLs into incognito browser tabs on mobile.

here

Fenks.

Mr. Koko is a gullible moron, UK-resident Belarusian zmaga larper IIRC, and the reason I was blocked by him was because of one particularly (I mean, out of the ordinary) ridiculous and easily disproven brainfart he had that I called him out on. Politely, I might add. But boom, blocked.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
Fenks.

Mr. Koko is a gullible moron, UK-resident Belarusian zmaga larper IIRC, and the reason I was blocked by him was because of one particularly (I mean, out of the ordinary) ridiculous and easily disproven brainfart he had that I called him out on. Politely, I might add. But boom, blocked.

"Brainers are not welcome on this channel"

On treatment of Russian soldiers and allies in captivity:
https://t.me/rybar/39198
More details from Russian servicemen who returned tonight from Ukrainian captivity.

Most say that they were treated relatively well, but they were psychologically pressured a lot. They fed me and gave me baths from time to time. In general, there are more or less places to keep, but there are also enough excesses.

Servicemen of the People's Militia of the DPR and LPR are practically not taken prisoner. Usually they are either killed on the spot, or already in places of temporary detention after debriefing. Three servicemen from the republics who returned from captivity were very lucky.

The toughest moments is the surrender itself. They can be beaten to death and shot. Heavily wounded are shot on the spot.

Yesterday no pilots were exchanged. Let's see if in todays batch of soldiers there will be any pilots. Apparently, Ukrainians torture pilots in captivity.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:

sundoesntrise wrote:China behaving like an autistic borderliner again.

Taiwan is pending.. Better pick a side lest you'll be next with no friends left.

These slant eyed bastards cannot be trusted. They are not real friends. If I'm Russia, I would not back China on the Taiwan issue. I would be neutral. Especially if more idiotic rhetoric like this comes from Beijing.

Skip the racist-sounding jargon. "Slant eyed bastards", really?

Some Chinese officials sugarcoat their public announcements,  but there's already multiple PLAAF Y-20s flying into Moscow each week carrying something (?), there is a lot of "supicious" train traffic, and statements by other officials that don't rhyme at all with these western-directed ditto.

Stuff is going on.

I'm just pissed off. It wasn't meant to be racist. I don't want to see Russia undermined, especially not by China. Russia has had their back and now I hear Chinese officials publicly undermining their position on Ukraine smh...It's ridiculous.

One Million? thats more men than needed unless the russians really wanna get this war done fast but still mobilize one million men takes months as all the gear for these formations need to be supplied