Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26

It can also be viewed that Zaluzhny actually view Gerasimov as incompetent and speaks highly of him because his incompetence makes his job easier.

I see Mercouris and others scoffing at the results.   When your alleged government is shelling you for 7 years, you will not be voting
in its favour.   This is not some couch philosophical debate with opposing views.   It is a simple question of life and death.   The people
in the Donbass know that they will be ethnically cleansed just like Serbs from Krajina.   Only smug westerners removed from a grip on
reality think the decisions are fake and coerced.

I have seen a good Youtuber present an alleged distribution of ethnic Russians in the various "Ukrainian" oblasts but this is a false
map.  Ethnic Russians are total majorities in the Donetsk and Lugansk.   They are not less than 50%.   The same map also claimed
that only 58% of the Crimea was ethnic Russian.   The lowest credible number is 65% and it is actually higher.   Supposedly there
are only 14% ethnic Russians in Kherson.   So where is all the pro-Kiev resistance then?

Stealthflanker wrote:It can also be viewed that Zaluzhny actually view Gerasimov as incompetent and speaks highly of him because his incompetence makes his job easier.

Yeah, that's why Zaluzhny is super happy with Elensky and why he is so successful on the field of battle. And the "defeat" in Kharkov is
only a defeat to the clueless.

Stealthflanker wrote:It can also be viewed that Zaluzhny actually view Gerasimov as incompetent and speaks highly of him because his incompetence makes his job easier.

I don't think that Gerasimov is the problem. Problem is more of a political nature imo. 
I wouldn't exclude that some of the generals shouldn't hold current positions, but Gerasimov is definitely not one of them.

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Isos wrote:IMO in the next couple of days Russia will send a formal declaration of war since they accepted the referendum results.

Zelensky will be a target just like Kiev infrastructure, they civilian comms and internet, energy and so on.

Concerning NS 1 and 2  it is weired they got attacked because gas was barely transiting. It seems it is the US but I don't really beleive it, it would give Russia a permission to blow up a US target, and a civilian one.  

For best effects they should hit Trans-Caspian and Langeled pipelines.

Europipe I and II would be better, Germany would be cut off from most gas suplies and winter is coming. Germany is the biggest player in the EU...if Germany gives in to the sanctions, the whole EU will cave in, apart from the sociopaths in Warsaw and the Baltic capitals.

I would freeze too...but it's worth it!

Germany can no longer save itself. The pipes are blown. I seriously doubt they can be fixed in less then 6 months if at all.

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https://t.me/ghostnewsx/477 guess ukies are motivated breaking each others legs to avoid mobilization.

Yeah, curiously "Western" news never really brought up anything about How Ukraine Mobilized.

I would assume it's just as chaotic or even more than Russian one.

Why do some of the dead bodies have their pants pulled down. Is this done as a sign of disrespect or were they killed while taking a shit?

Backman wrote:For the record i don't think Russia is losing or will lose the war
. I just wish that the Russian mod would not make itself look worse than it has to. Propaganda is part of war. Now is not the time to look weak. Even if it's not true

If you are so concerned about the propaganda, stop contributing with the Western FUD

Stealthflanker wrote:Yeah, curiously "Western" news never really brought up anything about How Ukraine Mobilized. Laughing

I would assume it's just as chaotic or even more than Russian one.

Are you kidding? They are in their umpteenth round of mobilization, handling their people like cattle brought to the slaughter, picking random guys in the bars, beaches, closing borders and calling immigrants back while units refuse to be used as cannon fodder and families ask to get the bodies of their sons and husbands. And you say that you would assume it is as chaotic as Russian call of 1.5% of their mobilization basis for supportive tasks??

Stealthflanker wrote:Yeah, curiously "Western" news never really brought up anything about How Ukraine Mobilized.  

I would assume it's just as chaotic or even more than Russian one.

They did, remember when the Ukes were handing out AKs to criminals and having their women make molotov cocktails? I would bet quite a bit of $$ on the Wagner trained criminals crushing the armed Ukrainian crooks.

LMFS wrote:
Are you kidding? They are handling their people like cattle brought to the slaughter, picking random guys in the bars, beaches, closing borders and calling immigrants back while units refuse to be used as cannon fodder and families ask to get the bodies of their sons and husbands. And you say that you would assume it is as chaotic as Russian call of 1.5% of their mobilization basis for supportive tasks??

Even pulling woman who are holding onto either a lamp post or a park bench trying to pry her off for mobilization.

This is like 8th or 9th mobilization from Ukraine.

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Backman wrote:For the record i don't think Russia is losing or will lose the war
. I just wish that the Russian mod would not make itself look worse than it has to. Propaganda is part of war. Now is not the time to look weak. Even if it's not true

If you are so concerned about the propaganda, stop contributing with the Western FUD

Stealthflanker wrote:Yeah, curiously "Western" news never really brought up anything about How Ukraine Mobilized. Laughing

I would assume it's just as chaotic or even more than Russian one.

Are you kidding? They are handling their people like cattle brought to the slaughter, picking random guys in the bars, beaches, closing borders and calling immigrants back while units refuse to be used as cannon fodder and families ask to get the bodies of their sons and husbands. And you say that you would assume it is as chaotic as Russian call of 1.5% of their mobilization basis for supportive tasks??

I think we should be concerned about propaganda. The number of people in the West who think the Russian military is desperate and on the ropes is STAGGERING. This empowers the politicians to be aggressive and provide money for "final victory". The failure to impact the narrative is directly extending the war, costing Russian lives, money and putting us ALL at risk of nuclear Armageddon. Russia need to do something aggressive and bold to make a statement. For example, spend 5 days pounding all crossings from from the West into DUST and eviscerating Ukraine's locomotive fleet. Then take out all the power and kill all centers of command other then Zelenskys office. All this should happen in a very short time to utterly stun the nation and before anyone in the west can react. Just go from zero to 1000 and stay there for several days.

mnztr wrote:Why do some of the dead bodies have their pants pulled down. Is this done as a sign of disrespect or were they killed while taking a shit?

I am guessing they are being checked for boobie traps and stuff.

Isos wrote: It seems it is the US but I don't really beleive it  

Polish politicians are thanking the US for it and US think tank publications are bragging about it. Who else do you think did it

On the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said regions of Ukraine where widely-derided "referendums" are being held would be under Russia's "full protection" if they are annexed by Moscow.

Asked if Russia would have grounds for using nuclear weapons to defend annexed regions of Ukraine, Lavrov said Russian territory, including territory "further enshrined" in Russia's constitution in the future, "is under the full protection of the state."

"All of the laws, doctrines, concepts and strategies of the Russian Federation apply to all of its territory," he said, also referring specifically to Russia's doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons.

So the obvious question is: why would Russia plan to use nukes to defend the "annexed" oblasts? The Kiev regime is going to throw
1 million highly effective troops to take them back?

Backman wrote:
Polish politicians are thanking the US for it and US think tank publications are bragging about it. Who else do you think did it

It's a technologically demanding operation as these pipelines are burried in the bottom. It can't be done by divers alone, as they will need to have some sort of AUV or ROV with robotic hand, for removal of materials pipeline is burried under.

kvs wrote:I see Mercouris and others scoffing at the results.   When your alleged government is shelling you for 7 years, you will not be voting
in its favour.  

To be fair to Mercouris, he also said there is no such thing as a legitimate referendum. What he means is, it would just be up to how much money each side spent on campaigning/manipulating the people. Just like there's no such thing as a legit election in the US.

I personally believe that these were legit referendums. But I also understand the point he is trying to make.

Russia is excessively legalistic IMO. I think the referenda is good for these regions. But I also think Russia should take more regions and have no referendum. Just take power and call it Russian land now. Anyone who doesn't like it can F off. Russia has to take some territory to prevent Nato and the US from building missile installations on them. And people that happen to live there don't really factor in that.

any chances that this pipeline will get sabotaged?

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Volgograd student from Nigeria left the university and signed a contract to participate in a special operation in Ukraine. Joseph is now preparing for a deployment to the Donbass.

From February to May, he had already distinguished himself on the battlefields in the Kherson region, for which he was awarded the Zhukov medal. The black artilleryman said that Russia has become his second homeland, and he is ready to continue defending it.

He calls his comrades-in-arms family and wants to reunite with his colleagues as soon as possible. In Nigeria, Joseph is looked after by his extended family. Mother, four brothers and a sister.
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thegopnik wrote:

any chances that this pipeline will get sabotaged?

Putin has moderated too much.

He presided over the extralegal assassination of Chechen terrorists. Is that maybe the last time Putin has done something extralegal ?

FSB agents should be out in the field assassinating people and cutting balls off. Just like they did before.

Backman wrote:https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/27384

In Russia, they can create a new federal district - Crimean, it will include the peninsula itself, and the LPR, DPR, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions attached as a result of referendums. (see the map in the link. It includes more than that.)The former general director of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin,   may head the new embassy, Vedomosti reports. @kedmi

what's interesting is that this includes Transnistria

Backman wrote:
Putin has moderated too much.

He presided over the extralegal assassination of Chechen terrorists. Is that maybe the last time Putin has done something extralegal ?

FSB agents should be out in the field assassinating people and cutting balls off. Just like they did before.

Assassinations of Nazis and SBU and GUR agents should start ASAP and  continue after the war. Throughout the world. Hunt them down Mosad style. But, i don't believe that will happen in reality.

kvs wrote:So the obvious question is: why would Russia plan to use nukes to defend the "annexed" oblasts?  The Kiev regime is going to throw
1 million highly effective troops to take them back?

I personally think no nukes will ever be used this would only further demonize Putin and Russia and play into the hands of the west as big bad Russia worse than Satan image. It would also look very desperate and be seen as Russia throwing it's toys out of the pram very much like what USA did in Japan by using weapons of mass destruction on civilians. Although I do think we might see FOAB or other heavier bombs being used, and more heavy bombers being used Tu-22M3, Tu-95, Tu-160. If Russia was to use nukes it would be far more useful using in western Ukraine than on the doorstep of newly annexed areas. Nuking western Ukraine would be on the doorstep of countries helping Ukraine and would impede on supplies into Ukraine and Russia will most likely never annex these areas so once the land is contaminated nothing will be able to be planted and the pro Ukrainian and pro neo Nazi civilians will suffer over time with various health issues or the land vacated and those Ukrainians move into Europe and cause Europe more refugee crisis. The no man's land would create another buffer zone. But as I said I highly doubt any nukes will be sent. Maybe the west will use one on civilians and then blame Russians that more likely to happen than Russia using nukes. That's my 10 pence worth lol.