Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26

franco wrote:More than 30 thousand construction workers are involved in the restoration of the DPR and LPR

More than 30 thousand construction workers are working on the restoration of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR). This was announced on September 26 by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin.

"Currently, 32,000 people work in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. I believe that by the end of the year the construction group will be 50-60 thousand, " he told reporters.

Mariupol after Russian invasion





Other places after US humanitarian intervention

Talking about Dima and tactical nukes: Beirut explosion had ~2kt  

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Backman wrote:Mark Sleboda said on a Sputnik interview that the biggest concern for NATO jumping is a move on Odessa. They might be tempted. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility.

Taking Odessa is going to be very provocative even for Russia. It is the only real prize left. I'm glad Russia is bulking up with reserves. But it has to get on with it. Why leave it dangling out there ?

What is provocative about it?

Who TF cares what NATO thinks?

Russia needs to mean what it says, and glass anyone who comes across to interfere with the special operation -

And prepare because this inept leadership has invited this very possibility

Tempting NATO to attack due to misplaced sense of superiority

If Russia continues to retreat , it will invite this scenario of NATO jumping on Russia

Russia should not just take Odessa, but Nikolayev, Dnepropetrovsk, and Kharkov as well

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Backman wrote: is bulking up with reserves. But it has to get on with it. Why leave it dangling out there ?

What is provocative about it?

Who TF cares what NATO thinks?

Russia needs to mean what it says, and glass anyone who comes across to interfere with the special operation -

And prepare because this inept leadership has invited this very possibility

Tempting NATO to attack due to misplaced sense of superiority

If Russia continues to retreat , it will invite this scenario of NATO jumping on Russia

Russia should not just take Odessa, but Nikolayev, Dnepropetrovsk,  and Kharkov as well

I don't disagree. It has to be taken.

I'm just saying , when it happens , it will be the biggest moment of tension as the last valuable piece is taken off the board.

Edward Snowden has received Russian citizenship. Apparently, this can also be regarded as a definite signal.

According to my data, at least some defense enterprises in Russia have been switched to the 6/1 operating mode, in three-shift mode. Good luck to everyone who expects that Russia will run out of tanks / shells/ missiles/planes

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/27384

In Russia, they can create a new federal district - Crimean, it will include the peninsula itself, and the LPR, DPR, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions attached as a result of referendums. (see the map in the link. It includes more than that.)The former general director of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin,   may head the new embassy, Vedomosti reports. @kedmi

Scorpius wrote:According to my data, at least some defense enterprises in Russia have been switched to the 6/1 operating mode, in three-shift mode. Good luck to everyone who expects that Russia will run out of tanks / shells/ missiles/planes

Russia's own little "Industrial Revolution" should be very beneficial to "The Made in Russia" industry - not to mention job creation and new skills development.

If the Zaporozhye region already becomes part of the Russian Federation, then I think the Russians have a shot at Zaporozhye as well. For nothing, we all write about Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev if the Russians have no plan to take those areas. It is not a problem to occupy them, but the problem is how many people will remain in those cities. Nobody needs a half-empty city. But if the Russians want to deny Ukraine access to the Black Sea, then Nikolaev and Odessa will fall, but so will Kharkov. Who knows, maybe they have plan for Kiev also, Sumy, Poltava and Chernigov. Russians have plans we here have wish list.

If anyone talks shit about the Russian military show him this picture.



and than compare those losses to the amount of equipment they have from their country like this for example lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Turkish_Land_Forces

ALAMO wrote:

thegopnik wrote:Can someone give me a quick run down on the May 2 2014 Odessa massacre?  https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/397060747 Did Russia intervene in Crimea from having a similar incident like that happen again?

Trying a sane dispute with zombies living in 4chan caves
Wow! That must be fascinating!

Scorpius wrote:
10. Ukrainian Nazis set fire to the doors and lower floors, throwing molotov cocktails at them. Then they stood and rejoiced at how dozens of people were burned alive. Those who tried to get out of the burning building were beaten, maimed and killed.

They were beaten to death with sticks after jumping down the windows, and shoot on the balconies where they were trying to hide.
One of the preparators and killers was a later Werchowa Rada deputy from the Svoboda nazi party. Never can remind his name, but anyone can easily find him, as he is fat as a pig.
Lots of materials with him shooting at people with Makarov pistol, wearing a blue shirt and a vest.
It was just one act of the whole performance because at the very same time, Mariopol was bathed in the blood of the pro-Russian protesters. Ultras were carried there with buses, armed, and started a rage killing the peaceful protesters, including Rada deputy. In Mariopol case, police was trying to intervene and safe the people. It ended with a siege of central police station, and killing the police officers, including executions on the street carried against those who survived the clash.

Still, when that all happened, Crimea case was already closed, as the main heat there was in Feb/March. Still, it is a clear picture what was avoided there, and how the Ukro nazi regime carried towards own people back then.

I am sure Russia has a naughty list. Hopefully they try these scumbags and they end up in sunny Siberia doing some landscaping work.

LMFS wrote:

Backman wrote:Mark Sleboda said on a Sputnik interview that the biggest concern for NATO jumping is a move on Odessa. They might be tempted. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility.

Taking Odessa is going to be very provocative even for Russia. It is the only real prize left. I'm glad Russia is bulking up with reserves. But it has to get on with it. Why leave it dangling out there ?

"Provocative" is to have HATO nazis at a 100% Russian city like Odessa...

Odessa'a governor is currently an Aidar Battalion member. Before that it was Georgian fugitive prick Suck-tie-villi. And I'm sure its had one or two other vermin as head. Not to mention who was terrosing people with the fascist police and "security" forces.
But of course according to Uncle Sham "Ukraine is a democracy". Vermin.

thegopnik wrote " Dmitry wants ukraine nuked. " One aspect of the SMO , that I think was lacklustre , was the over-cautious approach to using nukes or at this stage the displaying readiness to use nukes . I said several times that a nuke test should be put on TV , and if their war continues then a nuke  near their ship , cooked enough to singe the hairs on their chest , but not kill them . And if they continue with war , then next nuke , close enough for radiation effects , and then next for real use against small number of troops , and then larger concentrations !

Putin's warning touched them in sensitive places " ....this is not a bluff ! " Should have been done long ago . At this stage we should already have passed the " nuke on TV stage , " and be already at "  nuke near the troops stage . " That is why Blinken and many others in the West are shifting their pants and saying " Russia should not make threats ! " or " ...West will respond with conventional strikes ! " So nukes work , but only if you are ready to escalate with them and use them . Now I am going to turn on the TV , to see what is going on , where are my Sun - shade glasses ?

Backman wrote:Mark Sleboda said on a Sputnik interview that the biggest concern for NATO jumping is a move on Odessa. They might be tempted. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility.

Taking Odessa is going to be very provocative even for Russia. It is the only real prize left. I'm glad Russia is bulking up with reserves. But it has to get on with it. Why leave it dangling out there ?

I do not see this happening as an realistic scenario.

If NATO did that, They just as well might go declare war on Russia and enter Ukraine trough Poland with an organized force and grab land there in the west.
At least they would have functional, proper supply lines with their NATO bases in Poland.

But with going into Ukraine, NATO forms an direct participant in the war and threat to Russian Territory.
I seriously expect if they did this, they will get an tactical warhead on their formations crossing into Ukraine as an "message"

I wish the above was exaggerated, But Russia will not accept NATO taking over Ukraine and have to deal with NATO nuclear forces.
I mean, "missile shields". And have their new borders touch miles of NATO controlled territory.
Territory you can guarantee then NATO will arm to the teeth to have the Nazi's have another go as proxy forces.

Bottom-line being for Russia, It is worth to snuff out the flame before it becomes an fire.

NATO does not want to hand over more of their own hardware over to Ukraine. Because they need it for their own nations.
They told Zelensky in those words, that he then ventilated in his little tirade in the Das Bild interview.
NATO arms manufacturers have waiting lists of months or years at the moment.
There are no NATO reserves for years now. and they where never refilled after foreign deployments.
Starting an operation against Russia would be suicide.

What logistics is going to support such an action?.
there is absolutely zero gain, and only extreme risks for NATO if they would go into Odessa as "Peacekeeers"
Or Ukraine for that matter.

Whatever will happen and how things will unfold in the coming escalation of the war.
I am just an spectator, just like everyone else here.
We will see how the war will enter an new phase very, very soon and develop from there.

A Russian soldier runs up to a nun.

“Please, let me hide under your dress, I’ll explain later”

The nun agrees.

A moment later, two military policemen run up and ask: “Sister, have you seen a soldier?”

The nun replied, “He went that way.” The police run away

The soldier crawls out from under the dress and says “I can’t thank you enough, Sister. You see, I don’t want to go to Ukraine.”

The nun replies, “I completely understand.”

The soldier adds, “I hope I’m not rude, but you have a great pair of legs!”

The nun replied..“If you looked higher you’d see a great pair of balls. I don’t want to go to Ukraine either.”

It appears that both Nord Stream I and II have been sabotaged and will require a rebuild to make functional again.
This is not a side show.

RTN wrote:A Russian soldier runs up to a nun.

“Please, let me hide under your dress, I’ll explain later”

The nun agrees.

A moment later, two military policemen run up and ask: “Sister, have you seen a soldier?”

The nun replied, “He went that way.”  The police run away

The soldier crawls out from under the dress and says “I can’t thank you enough, Sister. You see, I don’t want to go to Ukraine.”

The nun replies, “I completely understand.”

The soldier adds, “I hope I’m not rude, but you have a great pair of legs!”

The nun replied..“If you looked higher you’d see a great pair of balls. I don’t want to go to Ukraine either.”

I heard this as US soldiers to Iraq , taking into account US gay army it is even funnier

As far as Odessa is concerned, if it is still in Ukrainian hands at the end of all this then it must be 100% that the US and UK will restart their naval base construction operations there.

Can Russia allow a major NATO base, probably with related airfield nearby, if they have the opportunity to stop it?

It will be interesting for the US and NATO to see if it works for real. It is after all just a means of launching AMRAAMs from a truck not a plane.

Ukraine Confirms Receipt Of Longer-Range Missiles It's Long Sought From US

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2022 - 03:00 AM

Despite this past week which has seen US officials echo growing concerns over Moscow's ratcheting nuclear rhetoric - which Ukraine too has said it is taking seriously - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is now boasting his country has received a new, advanced US missile system.

He confirmed in a fresh interview with CBS’s "Face the Nation" that the National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) has been long sought after by Kyiv, but previously in the war repeatedly denied:

Zelensky thanked the U.S. for the system as well as the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems it’s received, but added that his troops "absolutely need the United States to show leadership and give Ukraine" additional air defense systems it has requested.

Ukraine began urgently asking for transfer of the NASAMS by early summer, but the Biden administration as reluctant to provide missile systems with longer range, concerned they would be used to strike inside Russian territory and thus drag Washington and Moscow into direct cofronation.

According to a CNN report in June, "Ukrainian officials have asked for the missile defense system, known as a NASAMS system, given the weapons can hit targets more than 100 miles away, though the Ukrainian forces will likely need to be trained on the systems, a source said."

But that's apparently no longer enough of a concern to halt these longer range systems, despite the Kremlin repeatedly warning that attacks on its territory with foreign weapons are a severe red line.

According to The Hill: The Biden administration approved the shipment of six of the missile systems late last month as part of a nearly $3 billion lethal aid package to bolster Kyiv as it battles the Kremlin invasion.  

The NASAMS are considered "medium-range" systems, but are considered an improvement over prior missiles sent to Ukraine, which typically had a max range of 30 to 50 miles. The NASAMS are capable of defending against aircraft, cruise missiles, as well as drones and were designed by the US and Norway.

But Zelensky in the CBS interview didn't waist time asking for more, as has been typical, saying that amid his forces achieving success in the ongoing eastern counteroffensive they urgently need more tanks, artillery, and more missiles.



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-confirms-receipt-longer-range-missiles-its-long-sought-us

NASAMS design and features

The NASAMS air defence system features network centric, open architecture that provides increased survivability against electronic countermeasures. The missile system can engage 72 targets simultaneously in active and passive modes. The primary weapon of the system is AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Raytheon MPQ-64F1 Sentinel high-resolution, 3D pencil beam surveillance radar is fitted to the NASAMS to detect and track the targets. The missile system is also fitted with AMRAAM launchers and a passive electro-optic (EO) and infra-red (IR) sensor, hard-real-time communication network and an embedded and standalone mission planning tool.

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/national-advanced-surface-to-air-missile-system-nasams/

TASS

NATO will not intervene if Russia uses nuclear weapons in response to Ukrainian aggression, and Kiev should be at least partially aware of this. This opinion was expressed on Tuesday by Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev in his Telegram channel.
Imagine that Russia is forced to use the most formidable weapon against the Ukrainian regime, which has committed a large-scale act of aggression that is dangerous for the very existence of our state. I believe that NATO will not directly intervene in the conflict even in this situation," Medvedev wrote.


He noted that the security of Washington, London and Brussels is "much more important for the North Atlantic Alliance than the fate of a dying Ukraine that no one needs, even if it is abundantly supplied with various weapons." “Overseas and European demagogues are not going to die in a nuclear apocalypse.

"Overseas and European demagogues are not going to die in a nuclear apocalypse. Therefore, they will swallow the use of any weapon in the current conflict," the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation is sure. "It would be nice if this sad conclusion was at least partially realized by the authorities in Kiev. Alas, this is almost unrealistic," the politician concluded.