Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26

Em...if we observe the situation on the ground...NO!

Who?

I have a friend who works in a factory... he hears rumours but has no idea what goes on in the board rooms and doesn't know what the plan is... most of what he knows about the company is based on guesses and assumptions...

But your friend is Putin I guess...

I'm not the only one critical.

Nothing wrong with being critical, but you go further than that... you don't just say that was bad or that is good... you say... the Russian military are idiots and Putin is a fool.... the enemy is winning...

And your claimed enemy loves you for it... you are creating division amongst a coalition fighting nazis in Europe... should there be any question who is in the wrong... but no... the Russians are just idiots... and they are just like the west if they don't allow you to criticise them... but we are in the west and I am sure Putin and Shoigu and Lavrov are done trying to please us or let us in on what is happening and why.

And for good reason... like it or not the west is the enemy.... Russia didn't do this... the US and UK and Germany and France etc etc did.

ALL Russian military experts shake their heads at many General Staff decisions. After all, their patriotism makes them look ahead.

They don't recommend a decapitation strike on their own side as the solution every time though...

The most important person in life is yourself and the people who are close to you and who you love! No amount of great speeches by Putin or some beautiful oligarch's palace can compensate for a person's personal loss. A dead son, brother, father is dead! No speech, no matter how nice, will bring him back to life.

Very true, but you are blaming Putins speeches and Putins choices for the deaths of Russians... removing Putin will involve a change in tactics that will likely massively ramp up this situation to a war that is going to kill 1,000 times more people on BOTH SIDES.

I don't give a **** about extra nazis and kiev supporters going to their graves... whether they wear a uniform or a fucking nappy (yes... I mean baby and old age pensioner), but a massive escalation will only end up in more of those Russian soldiers getting killed... NOT LESS.

It is the duty of the politicians in the Kremlin to do EVERYTHING to protect the lives of Russian citizens and people who define themselves as Russians and not some 5D master plan.

That is exactly what they are doing.

Sending thousands of soldiers into captivity pointlessly, abandoning territory and having civilians slaughtered by Ukronazis is not one of them.

That is all in your head so far.

Me and the people I love are EVERYTHING and you are NOTHING to me! That is the truth and reality for me.

If you want to be only a slave...go ahead. Your slavish behavior explains your actual mental condition very well.

You claim to care about Russia and Russians... how about you let the big boys do the job and stop aiding your real enemies in Kiev and London and Washington and Brussels by spreading panic.

I don't know if you can't or don't want to understand it? Pointing out a problem doesn't make you a doomer!

Pointing out it is raining and then blaming Putin and Shoigu... and not understanding that during war sometimes it rains... is being a coward.

The worst kind of coward because no one is shooting at you. Being shot and and attacked with artillery I don't think men who run away from that are cowards... because bullets and shells are dangerous and can kill you and it is natural to run away from such stuff... but when you read things on the internet and think the sky is falling and feel the need to share your panic with the rest of the world, you make the world worse.

If you want to get out of such a club how about growing up a bit... report what you hear and discuss... but don't think you know or your sources know better than the men planning this in Russia.

By the way...it was breaking NEWS! What else is a forum for? Just for jerking off on concept art of imaginary aircraft carriers and the PAK-DP?

This forum is about letting westerners know the true character of Russia, where the west can be criticised without getting banned, and Russia and Putin can also be criticised too... you might notice we even have a Putin criticism thread... but during a serious conflict don't think I am going to ignore those who propagate Nazi propaganda... this is their big push and of course they are desperate... it is grinding to a halt at great cost and if they get pushed back now there will be nothing to show their masters in the west.

Ignoring the BS crap from the doom sayers, the reports from Ispan don't reflect the catastrophe you are claiming but time will tell... keep blaming the Russian military that the orcs attacked... perhaps it was Putins fault the Ukraine signed two agreements in Minsk to solve this all peacefully and it has not worked out this way... blame Putin because obviously Kiev and Germany and France did everything they could to get a peaceful outcome...

If it's perfectly normal...no problem! Let more russian soldiers be surrounded by Ukraine? It's a cool plan according to you!

I know what a trap looks like. And a trap by Russian Army let Ukronazis slip in would be very nice. But a trap would never endanger the own troops so massive.

A trap with no bait is not a trap... it is just a convenience... the Kursk bulge was an act of nature... till it was recognised by the Germans as a place to attack, and also recognised by the Soviets as a place to defend and absorb that attack and then mount a massive counter attack to deal a serious blow to the Germans.

Thank you for the personal insult!

Not an insult... anyone can act like an idiot and being told you are being one is the best way to respond to someone being an idiot.

The other action I could do to a hysterical person is to restrain them till they recover... like going through the list of doomsayers and giving them all a weeks break so when they come back we might have more facts and less emotion... tell me... would you prefer that?

So I can call you an idiot too?

You can if you want... if you can do it in a nice or clever way I might even not ban you for insulting Admin...

And for COPIUM IDIOTS like you every loss is a great victory.

This loss killed thousands of nazis... and only you are calling it a loss because those nazis did not kill a lot of Russian soldiers in their advance.

You would smile if a Ukronazi would cut off your balls and say...hey that's Putins 5D chess masterplan. Hahaha X-D

Don't need them much at my age, but I would be happy to play the long game... and as a civilian if the Russians arrived and then left I would go too.

The critical man is the smart one!

No, the critical man is the shit stirrer... Peirce Morgan is not smart... he finds fault to attack and criticise... a critical man is like an opposition MP.... they can criticise anything... even something the government is doing right they can criticise for not doing it fast enough or within budget, or the advert should have used more green or red paint.

Criticising but never having to do anything yourself creates an angry bitter twisted little twerp who thinks they know better than anyone... suggesting you know better than anyone in the Russian military because you read Twitter and Telegram... half of which are likely western bots... well there are those that do and those that criticise.

Another factor is the purpose of the criticism... you claim you want to save the lives of Russian soldiers, yet your solution is a more hardline approach that would send rather more Russian soldiers into harms way and kill rather more people.

Only idiots never see failures at all and at least their own failures and proceed with the same shit again and again and again...

The Russian military has changed tactics during this conflict to suit the results they were getting on the battlefield... most of their decisions appear to be made to minimise the death toll of Russian soldiers and civilians... the former is common sense the latter is international law.

By the way...Uncle Sham won big in this war...beside Vann7, RTN and Co we are ALL pro russians and love this great country.

Because cowardly doom sayers made is so. All you had to say was... ooh... that is a bit of a worry... hope the Russian military and putin know what they are doing and left it at that there would be no division, but you had to switch sides and cheer for Kievs victory and claim the only solution to such a humiliation is to fire Putin and Shoigu... maybe they need some American advisors and support like Kiev has?

The fact that you don't understand your cowardice is helping your enemy at their most desperate time is just a bit sad... they put together large forces... they were hoping for rather more than they got... I suspect they wanted to cross the river all down its length and push Russian forces back much further but it hasn't happened and the longer it hasn't happened the longer they are losing troops and material and waiting for a counter attack.

But I only see hate, insults and distrust within the forum! If we are so divided without being directly affected by the war, how divided is the Russian world? It is nicer for you to harm a brother in spirit and direct your hatred at him than at the real opponent.

I tried giving you a slap, but you are too far gone.... you seem to like spreading orc propaganda and think your cowardice means anything other than annoying actual patriots and people who do more than just think critically. Just thinking critically is to believe the worst in everything... that is a sad and destructive way of thinking because Putin and Shoigu are shit, but they are the best you have so any replacements will be even worse so why not just skip the endless replacements of those in charge till Navalny is the only one left and just surrender to the nazis like a good little unpaid US troll.

Ukrainian soldiers post footage of the raising of the flag over the Village Council in Novoselovka. Thus, from the north, between Liman and the advanced units of the enemy, there remains only one village of Drobyshevo and only a few kilometers of land. The city is in an extremely dangerous situation.

For all we know that village was undefended... so they rolled in and took a photo... so what...

For people claiming to be critical thinkers you don't actually seem to be critical of very much the west wants you to say.

The problem with you and other doomers is not that you're too critical.
It's that you are faced with a deficit of information and decide to simply assume that which you don't know, trust unreliable sources, and presume competencies of yourself that you do not possess.

I would say more a bias in their criticism... Ukraine losing thousands of troops a day and Russian losses minimal is still a defeat if Russian troops don't remain in place in the face of overwhelming enemy numbers... ignoring common sense of course, because if those Russian forces stood and fought the Ukrainian loses would actually be less and Russian losses much higher because a static target is an easier target and once they kill more Russian soldiers there will be far fewer Russian soldiers to kill them.

Russian military and political leadership are idiots, but no mention of the evil they are fighting... it seems they are above criticism... almost appears like they are supporting Kiev, yet they claim to be pro Russia.

But they don't understand our confusion and continue to support western propaganda... every little propaganda win Kiev gets they pop up with and display as a Russian defeat till it turns out all those destroyed vehicles are Ukrainian, or the dates are faked and it was from 2015 or a different war... but the next propaganda attempt is always true till proven false because the west never lies and the Russians never do anything else but lie... and I am from the west and even I know which side can't be trusted.

Being critical is fine.
After the fact.
When the true picture emerges and it's possible to judge as to what went wrong, what X or Y achieved, how many men were lost on this side and the other side, what sort of other repercussions or knock-on effects there were, etc..

Being selectively critical and making judgements in real time is what European based international courts do... launch a cruise missile attack on Syria because Assad is using chemical weapons... yeah right... that is you being critical, doom sayers.

My recommendation is for you and other doomers to stop panicking, bickering and arguing in real-time on every random tid-bit of information that comes out. Or going to Telegram to grab up the latest updates and then put your own spin on top of it like Arkhangelsk does. We've had 2 week's worth of prophecies about the fall of Krasny Liman already so far. And what? What was the point of all this commotion?
It's emotional defeatist porn and I'm tired of it. If you have an indictment against the Russian military leadership over this or that operation to make then by all means - but support it with facts, reasoned arguments, timelines and so on.

Very much agree... by all means post information you find, but instead of being critical of the Russian military and Russian political leadership ONLY... how about a bit of critical thinking as to why this is being posted and by whom. What would they know in their position. What would they gain by posting it online... do they think that is a backup line to the military and that they can solve problems and bypass red tape by bitching on the internet...

You guys claim to support the Russian troops but your whining and complaining is probably really upsetting the families of the men actually fighting in this war... not that I think they would read this forum of course, but you are assisting people whose motives for this bullshit are not exactly transparent and clear.

But look at me being critical... that is a sign of genius according to you guys.

There is no plan in terms of Liman IF that was a setup Russia would have launched the trap by now.

Russia had no way of guessing where the Orcs would concentrate their attacks... they could probably guess, but not 100% accurate guesses... they will just watch the situation and take advantage where they can with what they have.

Trying to say "you don't know the plan, they know more than us don't question them" is fanboy boot licking at its finest. You can insult, pull the "well did you apply for position in Kremlin" shit all you want it just makes you look ignorant is all and I laugh at it.

If you were ever in the military you would know they create plans all the time and change them as things change on the battlefield all the time... suggesting there is no plan is fanboy crap at its finest.

Now that clusteruck doesn't mean Russia lost the war, nor is anyone SAYING that.

Worried about the sort of orgies you attend... Russian forces withdrew in a few places and made the enemy pay for that territory in blood... they have mobile forces and options... it is the west that wants this over and done with so they think they can buy Russian gas again and the price will go down. Putin has said many times... this will continue until it is done.

What we have here is a case of the fanboys who cannot stand others calling out incompetent decisions and using the idiotic excuse "it's a plan duuuuur"

How do you define incompetent in this case. The forces they had on the ground were in no condition to stand and fight off a ground force 10 times larger... withdrawal was the most sensible option to maximise enemy losses and to minimise friendly losses.

The reality is Russia could have avoided this entire situation if it merely moved in the spare troop it already has, that's the problem and THATS what's being called out this is a completely preventable situation well it was.

Or they could nuke Washington...

Perhaps the only way to make the US stop escalating is to actually escalate instead of just responding and reciprocating.

The US sends money and weapons to Kiev, Russia sends nukes to Iran and North Korea.

Russia starts massive bio weapons centres inside Russian territory where the west can't touch or inspect them.

Russian education system become hardcore anti west.

All energy exports to countries that support Kiev stop from Russia including Uranium fuel for NPPs.

The question is not the competence of forum members versus the Russian military and political leadership, it is the competence of US/UK military and political strategists vis a vis the Russians. So far the answer to which group is more competent is rather clear.

Russian forces are fighting inside former Ukraine territory and Kiev is on its 8th or 9th call up to replace the enormous numbers of troops it has lost so far, so I think I know who is doing the better job and who is just using spoiler tactics and propaganda to make it look like they are doing rather better than they actually are.

Seems like quite a short-term strategy, as if the Western powers are betting on Russia being close to collapse and so burning off all their assets out at the rate of jet fuel might pay off by making that happen.

Seems to me that the west knows better than any of us that Ukrainians are just a type of Russian so the more "Russians" that die in their books is better... no matter which side they fight on.

Either way, the orcs are getting ground up on the battlefield while the Russian team in the caravans decide where to back over again, while us dogs bark and bark with our tails wagging or hanging between our legs...

Dunno bro you sound like a slave to your passions and have a bleak, misanthropic point of view. Like many in our generation. This is why you see so many fleeing from being called to service. They dont care about anyone but themselves and loved ones. Though if you actually dug deeper you would find thry dont truly love their loved ones. They are emotionally attached to their loved ones. Loving loved ones means doing things that might hurt ones self or even family for what is right and good. This is called sacrifice, which is bravery and the cardinal virtue. It is also love.

The cowards and the children run away while the men sort it out... same thing is happening in Ukraine... but then the women are going to get called up... what sort of man runs away leaving the women to fight for them?

Lots of people like that... walk past a mess hoping someone else will deal with it...

Russian draft dodgers , who do not turn up to register or leave the country , must face punishment . They should loose social benefits of pay heavy fines on return .

I am old enough to know war is terrifying.... I am also old enough to know I am not going to live forever... I have never been drafted, but if I was to actually save my country I would not run away. Death is coming for everyone... it is irrational to fear it... to be honest I would be more afraid of being blinded or losing an excessive number of limbs... but I have a cousin that has a business making prosthetic limbs so I should be OK.

That ammount will last 3 to 4 days max.

It concentrates them into small groups that makes them more mobile but also easier to kill with one missile.

I still have a contract for the next 3 years against € 0,90 per m3 of gas but if I now have to sign a new one, I believe the latest price is € 3,94 per m3. Now that Uncle Sam blew up both pipelines' prices will skyrocket. Luckily my house is well isolated, and my yearly use is only approx. 750m3 and will manage even without but for sure this will hit European industries and they will have to incorporate higher cost of goods impacting competitiveness on the market.

When I was a kid heating the whole house was not an option and we normally just heated the living room and the kitchen... these days we heat the whole house but if our energy costs were going up internal doors would be shut and only smaller more limited parts of the house would be kept warm in winter.

And what % is LNG capacity against pipelines?

More importantly winter happens in the US at the same time it happens in the EU so their available gas to export will drop in volume as European demand increases... so which side of the atlantic is prepared to pay more... and domestic US customers don't have to pay for shipping so even if they pay the same price it is less costs for the company that delivers.

I think Russia will find a way to destroy that Baltic pipeline and watch Europe descend into darkness and coldness for the next couple years.

They don't need to... and it is more fun to see Norway make huge profits at Europes expense and how the EU are getting jealous over that...

That's worth 10-20 million at best, depending on what type of radar they send.

Certainly not 1.1 billion.

You are forgetting lubrication costs... lots of gears need to be greased to make this stuff happen...

Should really be asking how they kept it so cheap... and why doesn't the US military get them at that price...

Unlike you, he is one of the best posters on this forum.

You would be perfect Odin if you were not so modest...

This information is consistently deleted in Germany and elsewhere in the west. Even on more alternative websites.

Not this one...

Sure it was easy money, but that's also the reason there was never an attempt to truly diversify away from selling Gas to Europe

It was stable money in a stable region that might have earned them some respect and gratitude for stable and cheap energy, but they forgot it is Europe.

Pipes were there from the Cold War period and they just kept supplying till we are where we are now.

Russia is not going to any effort to force Europe to take cheap energy... now they are trying to blame Russia for blowing the pipes up... no explaination as to why they did it where they did it let alone how they managed that, but if they want to ignore the truth then Russia should just stop all gas supplies and build their own storage sites and drop the domestic price of gas to so cheap people use it for lighting as well as heating...

With Nord Stream dead in water, literally and figuratively

One NSII pipe is intact AFAIK, but Germany would have to certify it for use first.

Russia will have to redirect the gas flows , and also truly diversify away from raw materials sales

There are companies in Germany that will now go bust because they needed cheap gas to be cost effective... encouraging companies from around the world to build factories in Russia to use cheap gas and produce products the Germans used to make is a good business proposition because the German competition will be gone...

Or moved to America...

{quote]Now the sale of LNG will be of utmost importance[/quote]

During the 1970s and 80s there was a petrol shortage in NZ and a lot of people converted their cars to LPG... most motors will run on LNG or other gas fuels... all they needed was an LPG fuel tank fitted in the boot of the car and a switch to go from petrol or LNG fuel... there were not a huge number of other changes needed and the car could run on either fuel...

I would think Russians should think about using it instead of petrol in their cars and vehicles... even just as a backup...

But guess what.. the blue water navy is 20 years away from actually coming to being

The wont need a carrier group per tanker or cargo ship... most of the time just operating in groups will be enough... perhaps with a unit or two of armed naval infantry to make seizing the ship problematic.

I doubt they factored this happening when they laid those pipelines

They likely assumed they were dealing with rational people.

The rest of the world knows they are not.

Probably they really thought they'd sell this gas and Yankees would allow Putin to build up the coffers and lay a blue water navy gently and delicately in 30 years

The funny thing is that they didn't let him... but he did it anyway...

The decision of the residents of Donbass, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to seek protection from Russia was a natural result of the inhumane policy pursued by the Kiev regime.

Important to add that without Germany and France enabling and supporting Kievs genocide attempts things could have been very different... it is not just the Orcs that are the bad guys... the west helped these nazis too.

And everyone can be home by the new year.

No rush.

Um, Russia's stockpiles are being eaten up too though.

Artillery shells and rockets that were produced in eye watering volumes and could probably be replaced just as quickly.

Their ATGMs and SAMs are generally relatively cheap command guided or beam riding weapons that are also cheap to produce in large numbers.

They had millions of surplus AKs... and they always make lots of ammo...

But when we see M-60/M1/Leo-2 burning then yeah we can claim NATO stocks are being used up, so far nothing catastrophic for NATO, not yet that is

The fact that Ukraine started the conflict with plenty of armour and now is out of stock suggests they aren't using them properly or they aren't looking after them... so any new vehicles you give them will not last very long either.

LNG is an option but given the situation, there will be provocations on LNG and Oil tankers

They can attach a dozen naval infantry to each tanker to make sure they are OK... a half dozen Verba missiles... a dozen Kornets... some PKMs and Kords and a few light disposable RPGs and they should be just fine...

What is the best solution to bypassing Ukraine for oil sales, and developing trade with other states not including the EU?

It seems a lot was bet on Europe

I kept telling everyone to expand their navy...

When people in Germany start dying in winter because the gas ran out, you are going to look like a real jerk.

If Germans wait till people start dying of the cold before they let their own government know they are not happy with their choices then who is actually to blame?

America blew up the pipes... south stream still operates AFAIK. Kiev has closed of some of their pipes... but some guy commenting on the internet is personally responsible for dead Germans?

When I was at University and money was tight I just spent time in the nice warm library...

This is something quite nice, to get some impression of how many fronts of this war are out there.

The most electrizing part of all the talking heads out there is the progress of the both side's forces. They are reporting that commitment worth a kingdom, no matter that in most cases they are talking about things that already happened.

I have already told you, how those progresses are documented : some pickup up with 4 guys inside, travels in the middle of nowhere, across the plain fields, where is nobody there. Only to take some shots how they reached some perimeter.

But there is another type of twitter victories, ie. a totally faked ones.
A Hollywood styling.

Here you have one of them.

Ukro propaganda department shot a film, where the claimed DRG reached the outskirts of Energodar. That would mean a successful river crossing, and cover the several landing attempts disasters that happened to them.



So what they did, was just faking the city limits sign, and a whole scene

As some people are not chickens, and can think&analyze - it turns out very quickly that the sign is made in Russian, while nobody changed them yet, and all the markings are in Ukrainian there - that applies the "E" letter that is different.

But is it something that would made a goo' 'ol Ukro agitprop division to withdraw?!?

Never!

They have faked another movie, where people wearing incomplete Russian uniforms of suspicious origins are repainting the letter "E" letter.
Nobody asked himself question, why would the Russkie repaint RUSSIAN letter to the UKRAINIAN one because asking question is not something the chickens do
So what they have publicized via all the channels they had, was how the RUSSKIE faked the markings to make them look fake
And again, the zombified audience swallowed it, like a fuckin' yorcestershire pudding!

But they have failed again as the red bar on the supposedly "in the process of faking by the Orc invaders" is totally differently placed on a sing, not matching the spacing.
What gives a clear conclusion, that faked material presented faking of a fake sign is FAKE
How many fakes need to be combined, to make it an inception already - is top secret

Erk wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:The pipelines being destroyed are the best thing ever

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When people in Germany start dying in winter because the gas ran out, you are going to look like a real jerk.

How is he a jerk?

Isn't duty of German government and military to protect their strategic assets and keep their population alive?

thegopnik wrote:@airbornewolf if you ever get tired there are alot of catfile webm videos of the war covered here as well in case you missed anything cool. https://rentry.org/7op3o

Thanks man!,i had most. but got an small new fragment of the Gostromel airfield assault out of it.
And i like Gostromel footage
I got over an thousand vids on my own channel, but im sure you have already searched that for stuff you did not see before

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i saw Serberus posted an telegram link earlier of the vid.
But for the ones that rather have an Odysee link:

RF Tank takes out Ukrainian tank at point blank range

Azi wrote:
Another point is that western politicians (Europe and USA) think that slavs are subhumans and they can play them like a fiddle.
Clear case of racism! Even if there is "no more racism" in the western caste of politicians And for them, all Slavs are equally stupid, regardless of whether they are...Poles, Russians, Serbs, Czechs, etc. They try to play them off against each other.

They're right

I think WW3 is even very likely because USA has lost any common sense and acts very aggressive...best example is Northstream. Mutual Respect from cold war era is long gone! We all are only an inch away from nuclear holocaust....but the rulers in Washington don't care, they will rule over the survivors like the despots of the medieval time. Now you can all call me a doomer ;D hahaha

Their hegemony is on the ropes.
And more seriously than during the Cold War. During the Cold War, what they had to worry about was just the Europeans losing one of their former colonies to communists. That was 80% of the Cold War. The other 20% was just Eastern Europe which they didn't have much connection with behind an Iron Curtain; but the communist movement was never too serious anywhere in Western Europe past the immediate post-WW2 period.
America itself meanwhile was on the ascendancy

However now we're facing both an America and a Europe whose economic power, cultural output, military strength, etc... relative to the rest of the world - is in decline. It's past its peak. It's not like in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s when the US, Germany, Japan, Canada, Taiwan, South Korea were among the fastest developing economies in the world and American corporations, Hollywood had spread all across the globe.

That same pattern is in fact repeating now, but for other countries such as China, India, Turkey, UAE, Vietnam, Russia, etc.. these countries are the ones who have been booming.

If this war hadn't happened the situation would still be the same, it would just proceed more peacefully. One way or the other the current world order is at its end and is up for reorganization. That's the reason for the desperation, for the provocations against Russia via the Ukraine prior to the war, those against China via Taiwan, and so on.

The article of the Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov to the The National Interest CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS 2.0?
September 28, 2022

…the demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.

Henry Kissinger


I have commenced my work on this article for two reasons. Firstly, this October will mark 60 years since the Cuban missile crisis when the USSR and the USA were on the verge of a nuclear conflict. This is an occasion to look closer at the foreign policy lessons that the two great powers have learned from that dramatic time. I believe that any American will see eye to eye with me that we must not allow the explosive situation of the 1960s to repeat. It is important that not only Russia and the United States, but also other nuclear states confirmed in a common statement that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.

Secondly, we are witnessing a surge of concern of the international community and US experts about the possibility of a nuclear conflict between Moscow and Washington. This issue has become even more acute in recent days, when senior officials of the US administration began sending us direct signals warning against the use of nuclear weapons in the Russian special military operation in Ukraine. Moreover, threats against us have started to be heard from the official establishment.

The Princeton University has even made predictions that millions of US and Russian people would perish in the exchange of nuclear strikes. Sometimes it feels like we are returning to the years of McCarthyism in this issue. One hardly can forget former US Secretary of Defense James Forrestal who jumped out of the window yelling “the Russians are coming”.

The US media is abounding in publications by pseudo-experts who are ignorant of history and misinterpret the current state of affairs. They erroneously compare today’s situation with the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The statements by certain politicians and the media that US-Russian relations are living through an unprecedented crisis may well be accepted. Let me remind you that just a couple of years ago we talked about a difficult stage in the bilateral dialogue. However, no one could have even imagined that it would come to such a perilous point. Everything created over many years of hard work, including political, economic, cultural, scientific, and educational ties, has been written off to the dustbin of history.

We see a deplorable, deserted picture in arms control. The ABM and INF Treaties have sunk into oblivion. The Open Skies Treaty has virtually ceased to exist. The New START Treaty is approaching the end of its duration and, as we have repeatedly said, is not fully implemented by the American Side. The NPT is experiencing serious shocks. No one can foretell what will happen next.

I have to remind the readers that all this is a result of the US policy. Let me elaborate on my point. Washington withdrew from the treaties in order to gain security advantages, especially in confronting Russia. It is in a constant search for opportunities to achieve global military dominance.

Over the last decades the NATO military machine has approached in several “waves” Russia’s borders – where a powerful striking fist was raised over my Motherland. How should we have reacted? We warned our colleagues that such steps were counterproductive, increased the risk of an arms race; and we could not ignore the aggravating threats along the perimeter of the Russian boundaries. Especially, our Western boundaries. I remember long-hour gatherings at the NATO headquarters where I had to participate repeatedly in discussions on the harmfulness of global missile defense, the importance of respecting international commitments on strategic stability, and the danger of deploying shorter- and intermediate-range missiles in Europe. Russian exhortations turned out to be in vain.

The last straw that broke the camel’s back was NATO’s attempt to launch military-technical exploitation of Ukraine and cultivate in Kiev a regime desiring to wage a bloody war against Russia.

Today our country is accused of all sins. They claim that we have unleashed an armed conflict in Europe. I have to wonder: what did the US do to ensure the implementation of the Minsk agreements? Why did Washington keep silent for eight years and did not pull Kiev up when Ukrainians and Russians were killed in Donbas?! How could it ignore the terrible tragedy in Odessa when several dozen people were burned alive?! Where were the international humanitarian institutions?! Why did the administration prioritizing human rights allow such crimes?! We have repeatedly asked American politicians these questions. Nothing but beautiful slogans was the answer. Ukraine has been continued to be pitted against Russia.

Today it is obvious that the US is directly involved in the military actions of the Kiev regime. Washington is openly building up supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine and provides it with intelligence. They jointly plan military operations against the Russian Armed Forces. Ukrainians are being trained to use NATO military hardware in fight.

It feels like Russia is being tested to see how long it will remain patient and refrain from responding to blatantly adversarial actions and attacks. In fact Washington is pushing the situation towards a direct confrontation of the major nuclear powers fraught with unpredictable consequences.

US officials continue to escalate the situation, intimidating the American and international public with sham Russian “nuclear threats”. Such rhetoric twists the statements by the Russian leadership.

I would like to stress that there has been no change in the conditions when our country would use nuclear weapons. In this regard we continue to strictly adhere to the 2014 Military Doctrine and 2020 Basic Principles of State Policy on Nuclear Deterrence. Moscow has never mentioned an expansive interpretation of these documents which can be found in the public domain.

We are not threatening anyone. But we confirm that, as President Putin said on September 21, Russia is ready to defend its sovereignty, territorial integrity and our people with all weapon systems we have. What is so aggressive about this statement? What is unacceptable? Would the US not do the same if faced with an existential threat?

I would like to add that certain American politicians are under a delusion if they think that our readiness to defend our territory does not apply to Crimea or to territories that may become part of Russia on the basis of a free expression of popular will.

I would like to warn American military planners about the fallacy of their assumptions that a limited nuclear conflict is possible. They apparently hope that the United States would be able to take cover behind the ocean if such a conflict happens in Europe with British and French nuclear weapons. I would stress that this is an extremely dangerous “experiment”. It is safe to assume that any use of nuclear weapons could quickly lead to an escalation of a local or regional conflict into a global one.

I want to believe that, despite all the difficulties, we and the Americans have not yet approached a dangerous threshold of falling into the abyss of nuclear conflict. It is important to stop threatening us.

Today it is difficult to predict how far Washington is ready to go in exacerbating the relations with Russia. Will the US ruling circles be able to give up their plans aimed at wearing out our country with the prospect of its dismemberment?

The recent Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit and the high-level week of the 77th UN GA session have proved that a considerable part of the planet is not satisfied with the world order that was created after the collapse of the Soviet Union. We are witnessing the majority of the global community trying to find ways to establish an equitable system of international relations which would have neither first- nor second-tier states. We firmly support such a world order based on international law, the UN Charter, and the principle of the indivisibility of security.

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Was recommended on YouTube this video titled 'Timothy Snyder: The Making of Modern Ukraine. Class 5: Vikings, Slavers, Lawgivers: The Kyiv State'



This is an official channel of Yale University for Online Lectures. Yet it didn't take very long for the Russia-cancelling propaganda to propagate to academia. Well, perhaps they were reached even sooner.

The title alone is enough to betray any notion of objectivity.
What the hell is the 'Kyiv State'? Rus' has never been called the 'Kyiv State'. It has been known as Kievan Rus' (and you will note the Kiev spelling as opposed to 'Kyiv') since around the 70s in English-language academia. Which might be a fair description owing to how central the city of Kiev was to that federation of principalities and how long it was the capital for.

But it's definitely not the 'Kyiv State'. If it is, then how to explain the fact that this state already existed before Kiev even became its capital? The first capital of Rus' was Novgorod (which BTW is in modern-day Russia). But even before that there was Staraya Ladoga, 80km from today's St. Petersburg, which was used as an outpost by the same Varangian Prince who later founded Rus'.

Proceeding onwards, we come to the video description:

In Class 5, Professor Snyder describes the foundations of the Kyiv state.

Timothy Snyder is the Richard C. Levin Professor of History at Yale University and a permanent fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna. He speaks five and reads ten European languages.

Ukraine must have existed as a society and polity on 23 February 2022, else Ukrainians would not have collectively resisted Russian invasion the next day.  What does it mean for a nation to exist?  Is this a matter of structures, actions, or both?  Why has the existence of Ukraine occasioned such controversy?  In what ways are Polish, Russian, and Jewish self-understanding dependent upon experiences in Ukraine?  Just how and when did a modern Ukrainian nation emerge?  For that matter, how does any modern nation emerge?  Why some and not others?  Can nations be chosen, and can choices be decisive?  If so, whose, and how?  Ukraine was the country most touched by Soviet and Nazi terror: what can we learn about those systems, then, from Ukraine?  Is the post-colonial, multilingual Ukrainian nation a holdover from the past, or does it hold some promise for the future?

Yeah this is not at all ahistoric. Didn't realize Yale University was involved in the 'what if' niche of historical fiction

On what basis, exactly, do modern-day Ukrainians have exclusivity over Rus' (or the 'Kyivan State')? When back then there were no Ukrainians, Russians or Belarussians, but just one Rus' people with some different phenotypes and dialects from region to region?
On what basis does the Ukraine have exclusivity over Rus' history? On account of its capital being Kiev? By that logic Russia should own the whole of Ukraine, as Novgorod was the capital of Rus' before Kiev, and indeed the greatest part of Ukrainian territory spent most of the last 1000 years within a state whose capital was either St. Petersburg or Moscow.

There is mention of the Ukraine existing as a society and polity on 23 February 2022. What does this have to do with the 'Kyivan State'? What relation does any of this diatribe of modern-day political commentary and condemnation in the description have to do with a lecture covering Medieval European history?

But yes the Ukraine did exist on 23 Feb 2022. It was in fact declared as an independent state in 1991. You can trace back the Ukraine's origins as a state further to the Russian Revolutionary period, and to the later half of the 19th century, from about the 1862 January insurrection in Russian-controlled Congress Poland onwards. That's about as far back as you can reasonably take a veiled lecture about the formation of Ukrainian statehood. There is no link to Rus' history here whatsoever. The Ukraine has as much its origins in Rus' as Russia or Belarus has, but it didn't become a separate nation or people (and to what extent is still debatable) until much much later.
This Timothy whatever is a quack, engaged in ideological propaganda and demagogy, not teaching or researching history.

I didn't bother watching the video. Pressing the play button transposes the Ukrainian flag along with a map of the Ukraine (not current since March 2014 nevermind now) onto the screen. As if it wasn't obvious enough what the agenda was by now.

The plot for Western escalation becoming more obvious:

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BREAKING NEWS

Polish Foreign Minister Rau says he does NOT rule out participation of NATO forces in hostilities in Ukraine IF nuclear weapons are used there.