Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26

Ukrainian Su-24 shot down somewhere in the South:
https://t.me/milinfolive/91130

kvs wrote:The US is now printing funny money by the trillion.   It is in a meta-stable state where the global perception of the value of the US
dollar is keeping it afloat.   But the moment is coming when the adjustment instability kicks in and sending the funny money closer
to its true value.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but that process can last few more decades. It also depends on the other countries.

Backman wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Full list of latest US gifts, in

The total bill was $12.1 billion in aid. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1575561838925795328 The US can pass these monthly, possibly even bi-weekly, indefinitely. Total forever-war spending in the US runs about $300b per year.

The US is slowly but surely getting closer and closer to its fiscal unsustainablity point. So i think you are over stating this a bit here

Very few understand the "revolutionary nature of the American Empire," as Peter Hitchens once put it. Hence, while the US prints dollars into oblivion and has massive budget deficits, the US dollar is strengthening.

Strange times to be alive. A yt channel with a few thousand subscribers and viewers has a former soviet commander and representative from the russian Duma speaking about things of historic significance. I then go to a mainstream channel with millions of views and one of the hosts is a former CIA spook and they all are spouting mind numbing propaganda. Wtf

And to zorobabel. Do the neocons and neolibs act like they are cool and in control? Shit is going haywire. The things our elites have been doing domestically to populist opposition and populist leaders is insane. Our founding fathers fought for less. And geopolitically speaking they are acting like a bad single mom that only knows how to play power games with her kids and always has to have the last word, with the usual tragic results.

LMFS wrote:The press of Ukraine writes that at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, Zelensky may announce his withdrawal from the Budapest Memorandum with the rejection of non-nuclear status

https://en.topwar.ru/202595-ukrainskaja-pressa-pishet-o-tom-chto-na-zasedanii-snbo-zelenskij-mozhet-objavit-o-vyhode-strany-iz-budapeshtskogo-memoranduma-s-otkazom-ot-bezjadernogo-statusa.html

Anglo maniacs do not accept anything else than surrender, they may learn that Russia does not accept anything different than sovereignty. The meaning of those talks about "striking decision centers" becomes clear now.

USA ist not sending Abrams tanks or F-16....why on earth they should send tactical nukes making them the main target for a retaliation strike?

Ukraine is decades away from a nuclear bomb. They have reactors but exactly zero infrastructure for processing of uranium/plutonium isotopes.

Of course Zelenski will say something like this...but it will be only hot air of a clown!

If Russia can do an aerial assault on Hostomel, it can relieve the defenders of Krasny Liman. I believe the next two days will be decisive.

TMA1 wrote:

Strange times to be alive. A yt channel with a few thousand subscribers and viewers has a former soviet commander and representative from the russian Duma speaking about things of historic significance. I then go to a mainstream channel with millions of views and one of the hosts is a former CIA spook and they all are spouting mind numbing propaganda. Wtf

And to zorobabel. Do the neocons and neolibs act like they are cool and in control? Shit is going haywire. The things our elites have been doing domestically to populist opposition and populist leaders is insane. Our founding fathers fought for less. And geopolitically speaking they are acting like a bad single mom that only knows how to play power games with her kids and always has to have the last word, with the usual tragic results.

Neocons and neolibs only care about siphoning US taxpayer money into their own pockets. They have net worths in the tens to hundreds of millions. Why would they care about being in control?

Russia should have used this as an advertisement to encourage mobilization.

zorobabel wrote:
Very few understand the "revolutionary nature of the American Empire," as Peter Hitchens once put it. Hence, while the US prints dollars into oblivion and has massive budget deficits, the US dollar is strengthening.

Dollar is deflationary in 90 percent of the places outside US borders due to weakening native currencies. Hence you see the USD strengthening.

This is also the reason why there is a shortage USD basically everywhere. The FED could print trillions more - if it wasn't for inflationary tendencies and loss of real income/wealth within its borders (and subsequent social instability that it brings)

The play is undercutting the USD through setting up alternative financial infrastructure within new multilateral institutions (mostly Beijing led) like BRICS and the SCO. Once that happens and US Armed Forces are no longer able to guard the position of the USD as the world reserve currency, all those states will dump their (by now rapidly losing value) USD which will then flood the US financial markets and destroy the economy within weeks - probably leading to the start of civil strife within the US itself.

Azi wrote:

LMFS wrote:The press of Ukraine writes that at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, Zelensky may announce his withdrawal from the Budapest Memorandum with the rejection of non-nuclear status

https://en.topwar.ru/202595-ukrainskaja-pressa-pishet-o-tom-chto-na-zasedanii-snbo-zelenskij-mozhet-objavit-o-vyhode-strany-iz-budapeshtskogo-memoranduma-s-otkazom-ot-bezjadernogo-statusa.html

Anglo maniacs do not accept anything else than surrender, they may learn that Russia does not accept anything different than sovereignty. The meaning of those talks about "striking decision centers" becomes clear now.

USA ist not sending Abrams tanks or F-16....why on earth they should send tactical nukes making them the main target for a retaliation strike?

Ukraine is decades away from a nuclear bomb. They have reactors but exactly zero infrastructure for processing of uranium/plutonium isotopes.

Of course Zelenski will say something like this...but it will be only hot air of a clown!

US is readying the transport of 200 M1A1 tanks (just hasn't been made official yet) and those F16s will eventually show up as well.

European weapon storage sites are mostly empty and any further military aid will gravely inhibit their own armies' combat readiness. From now on it will be on the US to keep Ukraine both financially ND militarily afloat.

caveat emptor wrote:

kvs wrote:The US is now printing funny money by the trillion.   It is in a meta-stable state where the global perception of the value of the US
dollar is keeping it afloat.   But the moment is coming when the adjustment instability kicks in and sending the funny money closer
to its true value.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but that process can last few more decades. It also depends on the other countries.

The end is nigh, hence the accelerated push for Digital IDs, CBDCs and Smart Cities which will be needed to keep the plebs under control once they found out their pensions have disappeared and their financial assets will be taxed into oblivion - basically leaving them peasants dependant on Daddy Government for even the most basic of needs.

UND THEY VILL BE HAPPY!

From ZradaXXII, a Serbian guy on TG doing mostly more in depth background analysis. This one is copy pasted.

https://t.me/RLMreserv/1458

"THIS LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCE DOES NOT EXIST"

We wrote along the crumbling front in the area of Liman for the whole month, while the "reserves were moving" (which eventually went, as you know ... to CSTO exercises in Kazakhstan), and closed this topic three days ago. Like Sergeant Morozov aka "Murz", we have no doubt that this is betrayal, treason, sabotage (and an extra lesson in learned helplessness for the Russians). Another well-known analyst in narrow circles had earlier come to a similar conclusion in a similar case:

1. The surrender of the Kharkov region and the further development of hostilities is not a military defeat, due only to the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their successful offensive, but treason.

2. This is not a single betrayal of individuals, but the systemic work of a large structure at all three of these levels - in the political leadership, military command and the information sphere (with the “oppositional” political party attached to the information sphere).

3. The root of betrayal is not commonplace explanations such as “they deceived”, “degenerates”, “non-Russians”, etc., but in the fact that we are dealing with an externally controlled system that implements a project drawn up abroad. They are not such people themselves that they act so “stupidly”, but they are simply given instructions. Their position on the political, military, informational Olympus is also the result of the implementation of external control, which planted all spheres of the Russian Federation with its "Stirlitz" (iconic fiction character colonel Isayev aka Stirlitz from the Soviet book and TV-series '17 moments of spring' about a Soviet agent in upper circles of the Third Reich - ZradaXXII). And just as it was impossible to intimidate Stirlitz from Seventeen Moments of Spring with the defeat of the Third Reich, it is just as useless to appeal to the accomplices of betrayal working in this structure, what horror would be if Russia were defeated. They work for this goal quite consciously, fulfilling incoming orders.

It is obvious that the structure in question, with which all the main strategic "miscalculations" in planning and conducting this "strange war" and other similar games of giveaway should be connected is built into the system of administration of the Russian Federation and operates at all levels, from top to bottom .

The key word here is precisely the structure, the management network (and only then sabotage and controlled surrender).

thegopnik wrote:Russia should have used this as an advertisement to encourage mobilization.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1575441321413808130

Women hate simps. In fact absolutely nobody respects people cooming over TikTok videos featuring sluts with enough cosmetics on their face to manufacture a chemical weapon and an eBay helmet 'for the atmosphere'.

Seriously, find a woman to make your wife, have a couple of children become an upstanding character in your community and develop some self respect.

sundoesntrise wrote:From ZradaXXII, a Serbian guy on TG doing mostly more in depth background analysis. This one is copy pasted...

You really shouldn't pay attention to what random Serbs rant about on TikTok or Telegram or whatever

We are smack in the middle of social media retardation epidemic here

It seems there will be a major counter offensive of the Russian army

The Ukrainians could not close the Liman cauldron

All Ukrainian army forces have halted

Not one square meter fell

Apparently Ukraine is bled out in theater

Russia will counter attack soon

Let's see how it goes, hopefully guys are well supported

There will be casualties , so be prepared

sundoesntrise wrote:

Azi wrote:

LMFS wrote:The press of Ukraine writes that at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, Zelensky may announce his withdrawal from the Budapest Memorandum with the rejection of non-nuclear status

https://en.topwar.ru/202595-ukrainskaja-pressa-pishet-o-tom-chto-na-zasedanii-snbo-zelenskij-mozhet-objavit-o-vyhode-strany-iz-budapeshtskogo-memoranduma-s-otkazom-ot-bezjadernogo-statusa.html

Anglo maniacs do not accept anything else than surrender, they may learn that Russia does not accept anything different than sovereignty. The meaning of those talks about "striking decision centers" becomes clear now.

USA ist not sending Abrams tanks or F-16....why on earth they should send tactical nukes making them the main target for a retaliation strike?

Ukraine is decades away from a nuclear bomb. They have reactors but exactly zero infrastructure for processing of uranium/plutonium isotopes.

Of course Zelenski will say something like this...but it will be only hot air of a clown!

US is readying the transport of 200 M1A1 tanks (just hasn't been made official yet) and those F16s will eventually show up as well.

European weapon storage sites are mostly empty and any further military aid will gravely inhibit their own armies' combat readiness. From now on it will be on the US to keep Ukraine both financially ND militarily afloat.

According to whom?

Polish Foreign Minister Rau says he does NOT rule out participation of NATO forces in hostilities in Ukraine IF nuclear weapons are used there.

As usual with western bullshit the reverse is actually true... when Poland gets greedy and tries to seize some land they think is theirs by right the Russians will nuke them...

It is not rocket science... the Ukraine army is being dealt with... even with an unlimited supply chain it currently enjoys, but HATO troops are a direct threat to Russia and that means nukes are not only on the table... they are top of the list to stop further escalation by the west.

Poland and the baltic states will be attacked one day or another. That's crystal clear.

Russia is not trying to gain land, but considering the treatment these Ukainian regions have been receiving and are likely to receive in future how can they say no.

Poland and the Baltic States are useless to Russia... except as a link to the west which is broken and messed up and needs to sort its shit out.

COVID 19 really exposed how bio war would not kill populations en masse

If it was a real bio weapon plan it would be something rather more lethal and if it was actively spread in enemy populations the effects would be vastly worse than Covid.

If they do end up using it first, it should not be in Ukraine. Rather first 3 of them should be right there on Washington, London and Paris.

If they actually want to hit the real source of the problems I would agree... except why bother with London or Paris... you can't even call them secondary brains... they are more information conduits that transmit what they receive from the brain.

Just attack&conquer Kaliningrad.
It is surrounded, cut from supply and reinforcements, de facto impossible to defend. It can be blockaded from the sea, air, and land.
Why nobody is even considering that?

Because the forces in Kaliningrad are not weak and stupid and likely have their own nukes to use as they see fit and if they see a HATO force forming up to attack Kaliningrad then that constitutes the requirements to justify the use of nukes... HATO forces preparing to attack and invade Russian territory is an ideal target for nukes... call it preemptive self defence... maybe even wait till they start attacking and launch a Zircon at Brussels and some nuclear tipped Iskanders at the HATO troops on the battlefield...

Perhaps just do what they probably did to destroy pipelines or initiate Ammonium explosion in Beirut , with low yield fusion device . Use a small fusion device , deep in the sea , but say 50 meters above target . Create a pressure wave to destroy target with no radiation or sign of explosion underwater . As water captures all Neutrons and gamma rays , and no sign of alteration of materials by neutron capture or gamma ray induced rusting of steels . No sign of fireball . Just shockwaves hitting sea floor and registering an small Earthquake . Do Americans have Sea-bed targets ?

You are not getting it.... nuclear weapons are nuclear weapons...   a high flying MPA aircraft can detect a nuclear detonation thousands of kms away and for months late because of the radiation released.

A small fission device creates more radiation than bigger weapons proportionally and would irradiate more material near the explosion than a much more powerful weapon that will vapourise most of the irradiated material which then leaves with the mushroom cloud.

It is the US Military that wants mini nukes to become acceptable because making millions of tons of cheap dumb bombs does not make a big profit... it is time consuming and takes a lot of production and transport and storage space and there is no 20 thousand % markup on actual costs like there would be with mini nukes.

Plus the fact that their bunker buster bombs are shit and don't work effectively so they need nukes for that too.

The rest i don't even need to comment really. I agree 100% but when the time comes the only one who will be able to discuss this shit is our Kiwi guy. The rest of us will be either in some trenches or already ashes.

Lots of very very rich people have bought land here in New Zealand... I honestly don't think we will be spared... who wants to survive... don't you watch those zombie TV shows... what is the point of surviving like that... I like supermarkets and the comforts of modern life... honestly wondering why so few westerners in the northern hemisphere don't appreciate what they have more.

The smart ones feel perfectly like nothing, as had a whole life to get used to it.
A standard tactic for stopping advancing WarPac was making a line of death along the Rhine, made of dozens of nuclear strikes.
The very same fate was prepared for the Poles - this time multiple strikes along the Vistula were to be performed, to cut off the second echelon.
Anglosaxons always gave a f#uck about the fate of the continental Europeans.
People who cheer the warmongering AS narrative are either stupid or paid.

The funny thing is that once HATO starts to use nukes then pandoras box is open... the HATO plan is the German plan for WWII... ordered retreat inflicting damage on the enemy and trading space for lives in the hopes of burning up their men and machines from defensible position to defensible position.

The problem for HATO is that while they can nuke concentrations of enemy forces... the Soviets could do exactly the same... and also their supply and support elements... a weak force with nukes can defeat a more powerful force but it probably can't defeat a more powerful force that also has nukes too.

Besides mass arrests of civilians that cooperated with Russians (600+ in total), the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now evacuating the settlements and cities they have captured in the Kharkov counter-offensive, fortifying them for defensive operations.

So when the Russians counter attack and come back through they can level the place.... they probably need new housing anyway...

Russia would only use Nukes under two specific circumstances.

1. They are attacked with Nuclear Weapons and respond

2. NATO forces push aside the army and start entering russia proper thus prompting their use.

Not strictly true... the first is correct, but the second simply requires an enemy to threaten Russian territory... like Crimea or Kaliningrad... and soon parts of the Ukraine that have been liberated from the nazis.

Unlike some of you deranged individuals, I do not wish to see billions of innocent perish because of the blood thirsty urges of people like yourselves

Innocent people cheering western governments imposing more and more severe economic and political sanctions with the purpose of destroying the Russian economy... if they could care less about the situation then they should learn to enjoy the consequences...

End of the day no one will be using Nuclear weapons over the Ukraine conflict.

Depends on whether Hillary or Donald win the next US election...

Donald is an idiot but he sees the threat... the democrats think they are safe because Top Gun is a documentary.

I heard that the pandemic would eliminate 1/4th of the world population if not vaccinated, and that we would live inside for the rest of our lives

Who are these voices you listen too... most results suggest a lethality rate of about 4% of the population.... 1/4th is 25%.

I hope this is true...

The referendums are over and they decided to join the RF... Putin needs to sign a few things and their government and structures need to sign a few things and then those regions become parts of the Russian federation which Putin and the Russian military will become obliged to protect... moving at least a portion of those 300K mobilised men into those regions will free up the men currently defending there so they can move forward and liberate more victims of the nazis.

Quite right but there are still MT warheads out there.
You should also consider that a 15 kiloton warhead flattened Hiroshima in an instant as well as over a 100 000 people vaporized.

Another factor is that doubling the energy of the bombs does not double the radius of damage and in actual fact you get the same issue you have with HE bombs.... a 1,000kg bomb is a very powerful weapon that is good for heavy hard targets, but when the target is soft targets in a field 500kgs worth of 1kg bombs spread out over a wide area is often vastly more effective in terms of kill count.

A city the size of London would be impossible to completely destroy properly with just one nuke no matter its size... the 20MT warhead of the SS-18 was intended for very well protected targets like ICBM fields where it would go off in the ground and destroy via the earthquakes it would create... or Cheyanne mountain (SG-1 base).

To destroy a city like london they would probably use 10 or more 150kt warheads spread evenly over the large area, and those warheads would not come from one missile... they would likely come from 5 to 6 different missiles from different directions at different times.

If one missile failed you would still get good coverage of all your targets.

Hmmm didn't look like it to me on 2015 when I visited

Maybe they are not as destructive as advertised eh?

In fact take a look at Hiro city

Did you tell anyone while you were there that nuclear weapons were a joke and who cares about them?

US absolutely wants to goad Russia into the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

Time will tell if Putin and co fall into the trap.

Putin is not Trump.

It is more likely that the US would use nukes in Ukraine to attack a large Russian army formation while they are assaulting a town in Ukraine than Russia using nukes in Ukraine.

And the obvious problem for them is how to deliver it.... a shot down Su-24 or MiG-29 or perhaps a shot down Tochka or HIMARS?

Russia's overly diplomatic reaction to the pipeline attacks is rather tiring.

"Our pipeline has a suspicious leak. An investigation must be conducted blah blah blah"

How about "the CIA bombed our pipelines. They said they would do it. Now they have done it. An investigation will be conducted."

Because wild accusations and over reactions make you look silly to anyone with a brain.

There is no rush or urgency... NSI was not actually operating and NS2 hasn't been certified either so actually the only difference it makes is if Germany decides to drop the sanctions on Russia so they can fix the turbines for NS1 or they certify NS2... but now they will have to wait for repairs... If Russia can even be bothered.

And so, little by little, what I wrote a few months ago is happening, that is, that our writing "there will be no nuclear war" means absolutely nothing.

The threat of idiots with no respect for nuclear weapons or their enemies means the risk of nuclear war is always present... and how dangerous are our times with so many idiots in office in western countries...

Most of us hope the custodians of those nukes will make those idiots aware of the risks they are taking for everyone.

When you think about it, most produced and revered assault rifle in history. What are the chances Russia has any shortage of them, or even the new variants? None I would say.

It was 5 or 10 years ago they were complaining the Army had about 11 million in stock and Kalashnikov wanted them to buy new rifles... well some probably went to Syria and now they can go to Ukraine... lots of activity in Africa for Russian forces... donations there as well...

I'm not disagreeing with you, but that process can last few more decades. It also depends on the other countries.

The key is its position as the standard international currency, which they themselves are eroding by using it as a weapon in trade and politics...

More and more countries are agreeing to trade in local currencies, which reduces demand for US dollars even further.

Very few understand the "revolutionary nature of the American Empire," as Peter Hitchens once put it. Hence, while the US prints dollars into oblivion and has massive budget deficits, the US dollar is strengthening.

When more and more countries stop accepting it it will become less useful...

USA ist not sending Abrams tanks or F-16....why on earth they should send tactical nukes making them the main target for a retaliation strike?

Ukraine is decades away from a nuclear bomb. They have reactors but exactly zero infrastructure for processing of uranium/plutonium isotopes.

Of course Zelenski will say something like this...but it will be only hot air of a clown!

More importantly Putin has already described Kiev as a terrorist state with its attacks on its own civilians etc... if they confirm the west has supplied Kiev with a nuke it will become target priority number one and they will likely not worry too much about how many cities they would have to level to deal with it... in fact take it out when Zelensky and their Rada are having a photoshoot with it...

Neocons and neolibs only care about siphoning US taxpayer money into their own pockets. They have net worths in the tens to hundreds of millions. Why would they care about being in control?

If they lose control the money stops flowing and the risk of being outed for stealing it in the first place and being made a scape goat by their political rivals becomes quite real.

It seems there will be a major counter offensive of the Russian army

The Ukrainians could not close the Liman cauldron

All Ukrainian army forces have halted

Not one square meter fell

Apparently Ukraine is bled out in theater

Russia will counter attack soon

Sounds like they got lucky, those retarded bastards.... unless they are cunning bastards and know that you guys monitor that shit but so does the enemy and if the enemy thinks there is a weakness or problems there they will persist in trying to take that place even after it is obvious they can't... increasing their losses... making the counter attack actually easier...

To be clear I had no idea what the plan was and what was going to happen... but I do know the Russian military are not idiots and the troops on the ground are not idiots or cowards either... it is not beyond the realms of possibility for an athiest to have faith.

PapaDragon wrote:

sundoesntrise wrote:From ZradaXXII, a Serbian guy on TG doing mostly more in depth background analysis. This one is copy pasted...

You really shouldn't pay attention to what random Serbs rant about on TikTok or Telegram or whatever

We are smack in the middle of social media retardation epidemic here

I think it's fair to say that people on this board have very little right to talk about retardation elsewhere. Something with glass houses and beams in one's own eye. The lack of introspection and self-criticism is palpable.

Bytheway where is that guy that told me Liman could not be lost/encircled because if that would happen it would be by default part of a bigger plan since the RFA simply cannot lose, and the RFA leadership simply cannot be wrong?

It's a rather large stain on what should be a historic day full of energy and optimism.

Arkanghelsk wrote:It seems there will be a major counter offensive of the Russian army

The Ukrainians could not close the Liman cauldron

All Ukrainian army forces have halted

Not one square meter fell

Apparently Ukraine is bled out in theater

Russia will counter attack soon

Let's see how it goes, hopefully guys are well supported

There will be casualties , so be prepared

According to?

This is the latest update by Kots and pretty much same thing across all sources:

Unfortunately, the news on Liman is not very good. The city is actually in an operational environment. DRGs are now entering the supply road to Svatovo. Part of it is under the control of Ukrainian artillery. Yampol in the morning, in fact, is in the "gray zone", our units had to move away. In Drobyshevo, the defense line has been broken. The situation in the Krasny Liman region is critical. Answering hundreds of your questions, I do not know why reserves are not being brought here, why they are hitting the Dnieper and Nikolaev with rockets and Geranium, and not at those advancing on Liman. But I know that after today we have no choice but to liberate the ALL territory of the DPR. This is what the Constitution of the Russian Federation says, this is what our military doctrine says. But this, of course, does not make things easier for the heroes in Krasny Liman. @sashakots

kvs wrote:The US is now printing funny money by the trillion.   It is in a meta-stable state where the global perception of the value of the US
dollar is keeping it afloat.   But the moment is coming when the adjustment instability kicks in and sending the funny money closer
to its true value.

The paradox of the world we live in is that the more Western economies precipitate towards the abyss, the stronger the US dollar gets as investors and financial speculators dump their increasingly weaker and useless euros, sterling pounds, yens and the like and take refuge in the dollar. This increased demand and valuation plays right into the US hands as it allows them to keep printing more money.

Now that's what I am talking about!

owais.usmani wrote:

Now that's what I am talking about!

And what is "that's" in detail?

jon_deluxe wrote:

kvs wrote:The US is now printing funny money by the trillion.   It is in a meta-stable state where the global perception of the value of the US
dollar is keeping it afloat.   But the moment is coming when the adjustment instability kicks in and sending the funny money closer
to its true value.

The paradox of the world we live in is that the more Western economies precipitate towards the abyss, the stronger the US dollar gets as investors and financial speculators dump their increasingly weaker and useless euros, sterling pounds, yens and the like and take refuge in the dollar. This increased demand and valuation plays right into the US hands as it allows them to keep printing more money.

If you rely on lots of imports that need to be settled in USD and you don't have it, that is a bad thing.

If you are mostly self sufficient or can settle in other currencies or gold, like Russia can, then who cares what the USD is doing against other currencies, you know the USD isn't really going up, the weak currencies are going down.

There is nothing stopping countries with the weaker currencies increasing interest rates higher than the Fed, and getting the carry trade back, unless of course their economy is so weak it will break if they increase rates, in which case their currency should loose value. eg. the EU.

sundoesntrise wrote:
US is readying the transport of 200 M1A1 tanks (just hasn't been made official yet) and those F16s will eventually show up as well.

IF that is true, then it sounds to me more like a shady way to mobilize troops on European continent over longer period of time due to lack of logistical capabilities. The US has taken several months to mobilize against little Iraq and against Russia, if they are down for conventional warfare, would take a lot more time to have significant numbers there. NATO consists to 90% only of US numbers, weapon systems and logistics. Russia would be able to just roll over entire PONOS countries, if they decide US tactics.

I wouldn't be surprised if no western tanks end up on the fronts or a dozen at most, while the rest are being kept for NATO offensive.