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    Post  franco Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:11 pm

    Azi wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    In fact now there is a run -  Odesa/Transnistria or accepting  ukropine to nato...
    Russia will take region after region...till Ukraine accepts the new reality.

    Next logical step would be....Kharkov.! The distance, the logistics, the importance of Kharkov. And Nikolajev! Russian troops are only 20 km from Nikolajev away.

    My personal opinion is that after Kharkov, Nikolajev and Odessa Ukraine must surrender...but they can still resist...who knows?!

    Next step is to clean out "Russian" territory.

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    Post  mnztr Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:12 pm

    kvs wrote:The wear rate of US artillery demonstrates the inferior metallurgy of the "high tech superpower" USA.   Period.


    The M777 is a lightweight gun designed to be helo lifted to hilltops. It is nominally designed to be towed by the barrel, but not over rough terrain like in Ukraine. Its really ill suited for this war.

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    Post  billybatts91 Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:13 pm

    Finally!!!

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:13 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:

    The power elites here could literally care less about us.  I fully expect if we do see nuclear mushroom clouds that our media will tell us how fallout is beneficial and anyone complaining that their cities look like Hiroshima or Nagasaki are peddling misinformation and are obviously Kremlinbots.


    they still need some slaves left to serve them (or whoever form them survives) ? Damn I am just the another kremblinbot :d




    franco wrote:
    Azi wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    In fact now there is a run -  Odesa/Transnistria or accepting  ukropine to nato...
    Russia will take region after region...till Ukraine accepts the new reality.

    Next logical step would be....Kharkov.! The distance, the logistics, the importance of Kharkov. And Nikolajev! Russian troops are only 20 km from Nikolajev away.

    My personal opinion is that after Kharkov, Nikolajev and Odessa Ukraine must surrender...but they can still resist...who knows?!

    Next step is to clean out "Russian" territory.


    this is for current conscripts army fighting now will clean out Odessa/Transnistria regions then Kharkov.


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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:15 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine is no longer at war though

    Russian troops are no longer in Ukraine, they are in Russia

    Putin has ended the hostilities

    He will exit Kharkov and the rest will go to NATO



    I really think that you are Ukrop, I'm even convinced of that... !!!
    Only Ukrop can write such things.
    I don't want anyone to think I'm insulting this guy, but I really mean it..





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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:15 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:Finally!!!


    Question is where these forces dragged in from other fronts or are these the other army formations russia had yet to deploy.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:29 pm

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    billybatts91 wrote:Finally!!!



    Question is where these forces dragged in from other fronts or are these the other army formations russia had yet to deploy.

    I am sure that they are just going to remove some obstacles in their way whilst they are en route to setting up their new permanent bases.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:34 pm

    Pepe Escobar
    THIS IS IT.

    Dugin:

    "Putin's words are much more important than unity with four new political subjects: it is a fundamental declaration of war against the modern West and the modern world in general. This is the manifesto of Tradition. I cannot imagine the depth of the consequences of this. Just as in the Old Testament David threw a slingshot at the giant Goliath, so it is today. It was an eschatological, religious discourse."

    Yes, it ended on an uplifting, spiritual, deeply moving register. But it was mostly crafted as a merciless geopolitical indictment: not a declaration of war but as a RESISTANCE EPIC. No question, NO ONE can imagine the consequences. The ruling classes of the West will be livid - but there's little to nothing they can do.

    It takes hypersonic balls to defy an established "order" that was supposed to be "the end of History". THIS IS IT. History has been made.

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    Post  kvs Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:38 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    kvs wrote:The wear rate of US artillery demonstrates the inferior metallurgy of the "high tech superpower" USA.   Period.


    The M777 is a lightweight gun designed to be helo lifted to hilltops. It is nominally designed to be towed by the barrel, but not over rough terrain like in Ukraine. Its really ill suited for this war.

    So this is going to be the catch all excuse for this POS. It was supposed to be light for hilltops. BS. It is a single use disposable piece of garbage.
    Just how many tons of weight could be saved by degrading the barrel? It is not even close to a ton so why would it matter for delivery to hilltops since
    no helicopter is going to carry a dozen of them.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:39 pm

    Just published statement from Stoltenburg who says that Ukraine cannot join NATO.

    NATO is not a party to the conflict - says NATO

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    NATO will not participate in the war in Ukraine, because "the war will end before Ukraine passes all the necessary procedures to join the Alliance," said Mikhail Podolyak, advisor to the head of the Presidential Office of Ukraine


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:40 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Just published statement from Stoltenburg who says that Ukraine cannot join NATO.

    NATO is not a party to the conflict - says NATO

    I mean duh.

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    Post  Firebird Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:44 pm

    Azi wrote:
    Isos wrote:A lot of stuff going in Crimea.

    This means only once thing...next stop Odessa!

    For Donetsk or Lugansk reinforcements would go over Belgorod or a bit south. And at Kherson frontline everything is more than stable.

    So the plan is very ambitious and nice Smile

    But that would be Nikolaev then Odessa.
    Or it could be to hit the Pukrainian Zapo or Donbass forces from the rear ie West and South?

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:50 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Just published statement from Stoltenburg who says that Ukraine cannot join NATO.

    NATO is not a party to the conflict - says NATO

    I mean duh.

    "No-ones gonna pin this defeat on us" is the message

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:51 pm

    Nasty weapon.

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    #Ukraine: Ukraine received new rockets for HIMARS/M270- here we can see a pod of M30A1 guided rockets.

    M30A1 differs from previously seen M31A1/A2 by an alternative warhead with 182000 preformed spheroid steel/tungsten fragments and is designed to be used against soft targets.

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    Post  Mir Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:04 pm

    franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11  Twisted Evil

    Over / under for the gamblers?? dunno

    I'll stick with my initial thoughts - NATzo doesn't have the balls.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:08 pm

    Mir wrote:
    franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11  Twisted Evil

    Over / under for the gamblers?? dunno

    I'll stick with my initial thoughts - NATzo doesn't have the balls.


    Given that NATO talks far more about nuclear weapons, it seems that they lack conventional weapons in addition to balls.

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    Post  Backman Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:22 pm

    Not verified

    Medvedev:
    We have a celebration.
    They have:
    Heavy drugs.
    Dementia.
    Cynicism.

    Zelensky wants to quickly join NATO.
    Great idea.
    Just begging the North Atlantic Alliance to hasten the start of a third world war.
    Obviously the guy is tripping.

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    Post  owais.usmani Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:23 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:I mean in all fairness if I was Putin, I'd be glad those pipelines got knocked out, yes it will hurt in the short term but in the long term, it forces you to diversify you should never be too dependent on a single revenue source.

    For once I would have to agree with you.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:30 pm

    TASS

    Medvedev called Ukraine's application to NATO a request from Kiev to "accelerate the start of a third world war"

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    MOSCOW, 30 September. /TASS/. Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, called Ukraine's application to join NATO a request from Kiev to "accelerate the start of a third world war." He expressed this opinion on Friday in his Telegram channel.

    “Zelensky wants to accelerate NATO membership. Great idea. Just begging the North Atlantic Alliance to speed up the start of a third world war,” Medvedev wrote.

    https://tass.ru/politika/15925743


    Backman, you are right because Medvedev said that...
    We're celebrating.
    They have:
    Heavy drugs.
    Dementia.
    Cynicism.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:43 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Nasty weapon.

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    #Ukraine: Ukraine received new rockets for HIMARS/M270- here we can see a pod of M30A1 guided rockets.

    M30A1 differs from previously seen M31A1/A2 by an alternative warhead with 182000 preformed spheroid steel/tungsten fragments and is designed to be used against soft targets.

    Similar to the frag Tochka they used on Kramatorsk, killing loads of civvies. Nasty.

    Blamed on Russia, of course, which was gulped up without question by Western media in spite of overwhelming physical evidence (terminal trajectory, type, even serial # of the booster) to the contrary.

    Much like yesterdays attack on the civvies trying to leave for RU-administered territory.


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    Post  ludovicense Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:45 pm

    Backman wrote:Not verified

    Medvedev:
    We have a celebration.
    They have:
    Heavy drugs.
    Dementia.
    Cynicism.

    Zelensky wants to quickly join NATO.
    Great idea.
    Just begging the North Atlantic Alliance to hasten the start of a third world war.
    Obviously the guy is tripping.


    Zelensky is completely crazy... His application to join NATO is symptomatic... he's afraid of losing everything and not staying alive to enjoy the money stolen from the Ukrainian people

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    Post  Hole Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:52 pm

    Firebird wrote:But that would be  Nikolaev then Odessa.
    Or it could be to hit the Pukrainian Zapo or Donbass forces from the rear ie West and South?
    Zaporoshye and Donetsk are the priority now, because they are occupied russian territory. Then Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog, afterwards Odessa. Kharkov seems to be lower on that list but nobody can be sure about that. This will be a real war now. Maybe the forces are deemed sufficient to push from the South and cut off Kharkov at the same time.

    There could also be a "sickle cut" from Belarus along the western border of 404. Only a handful of people in the Kremlin know the next steps.

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    Post  Hole Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:53 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Just published statement from Stoltenburg who says that Ukraine cannot join NATO.

    NATO is not a party to the conflict - says NATO
    Typical NATO double-speak.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:56 pm

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-first-imperceptible-response-to-the-pipeline-sabotage/

    A decree banning international cargo transportation through the territory of the Russian Federation by companies from unfriendly countries was signed


    Suspicious source, but... 
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:01 pm

    Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-first-imperceptible-response-to-the-pipeline-sabotage/

    A decree banning international cargo transportation through the territory of the Russian Federation by companies from unfriendly countries was signed


    After the ban on airlines I am amazed that air freight was still running. Clearly some kind of deal struck to keep it below the radar.

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