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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
Hole- Posts : 11116
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SeigSoloyvov
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- Post n°827
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:07 pm
Maybe Khakrov and the Odessa routes must be taken IMO if you are Russia anything less simply isn't acceptable.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
billybatts91 Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:10 pm
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Maybe Khakrov and the Odessa routes must be taken IMO if you are Russia anything less simply isn't acceptable.
Agreed
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ALAMO- Posts : 7478
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Mir wrote:kvs wrote:The wear rate of US artillery demonstrates the inferior metallurgy of the "high tech superpower" USA. Period.
No No No its not inferior - it is by design. Not only that it probably cost at least 20x more than the Russian equivalent.
These guys know how to make $$$.
Schadefraude aside
kvs actually hit a bullseye.We have multiple examples incoming from a different directions, that they ARE inferior by eons.
That applies marine grade steel, with the submarine division fuckup being a saga of its own.
That applies the aviation materials.
Space.
Regular use.
It turns out, that a standard steel for toolmaking in the Soviet Union, with GOST number back in the 60s, is de facto better than some fancy-trancy-supa-dupa alloys the wankers are using now, for custom knivemaking. A $400 a piece
You can take an GOST stamped axe from the 60s, and it will be better than a rail quality steel now
It is a madness!
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine is no longer at war though
Russian troops are no longer in Ukraine, they are in Russia
Putin has ended the hostilities
He will exit Kharkov and the rest will go to NATO
1)Firstly they don't include all of those 4 oblasts. So there IS a territory dispute.
2)There is deNazification and demilitarisation ie protection of Russia AND "Ukraine" areas.
And getting justice for the atrocities.
By Putin being strong, you are accusing him of being weak.
So if I was obviously in Moscow, you would use that as evidence of me being "in Washington".
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Isos- Posts : 11599
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Backman wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:Arkanghelsk wrote:Looks like Ukraine is going for accelerate membership in NATO -
Will Putin back down? Or will he launch nukes if article V is declared?
UN and NATO secretary General are going to speak soon
NATO isn't going to accept Ukraine in while its at war.
Whatever is left of Ukraine after the war is over sure
Why not? The rulebook means nothing anymore. All the leaders of the NATO countries are 100% for war. They can agree to do anything they want.
For war as long as syrian, ukrinians, kurds... are dying.
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Eurasia & Multipolarity
Forwarded from Slavyangrad (O)
The West was able to get to the riches of the Russian Federation at the end of the 20th century - Putin
“We all remember, we have not forgotten anything. They called us friends, but in fact they treated us like a colony,” the president said.
Putin said :
western Russophobia is nothing but racism.
The United States was the first in the world to use nuclear weapons, setting a precedent - Putin.
They brazenly divide the world into their vassals and everyone else. They stigmatize entire peoples and states - there is nothing new in this. They were and remain colonizers.
the anglo-saxons destroyed the NS pipelines.
the United States has actually begun to destroy the European energy structure. Sanctions are not enough for Anglo-Saxons, so they turn to sabotage.
The US is leading Europe towards deindustrialization.
Russia is ready for the fight
Forwarded from Slavyangrad (O)
The West was able to get to the riches of the Russian Federation at the end of the 20th century - Putin
“We all remember, we have not forgotten anything. They called us friends, but in fact they treated us like a colony,” the president said.
Putin said :
western Russophobia is nothing but racism.The United States was the first in the world to use nuclear weapons, setting a precedent - Putin.They brazenly divide the world into their vassals and everyone else. They stigmatize entire peoples and states - there is nothing new in this. They were and remain colonizers. the anglo-saxons destroyed the NS pipelines.the United States has actually begun to destroy the European energy structure. Sanctions are not enough for Anglo-Saxons, so they turn to sabotage.The US is leading Europe towards deindustrialization.Russia is ready for the fight
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A lot of stuff going in Crimea.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:37 pm
I mean in all fairness if I was Putin, I'd be glad those pipelines got knocked out, yes it will hurt in the short term but in the long term, it forces you to diversify you should never be too dependent on a single revenue source.
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NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11
Over / under for the gamblers??
Over / under for the gamblers??
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3880
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:41 pm
franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11
Over / under for the gamblers??
I'll call over
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That's obviously not the plan because Putin is not an idiot
You can't just exit with a face saving way if your opponent is set on brutally killing you no matter how many Ukrainians he has to sacrifice to do it
It is an exit,
The west will tell Zelensky to stop attacks on the new regions
That's it
The deal was made and sold to us as a victory
Russia can save face
And NATO takes the rest [/quote]
I wish, Zelensky isn't talking peace. His masters aren't talking peace and today we will probably see Russia booted from the UNSC and the end of the UN because while Putin and most of the world wants peace Washington and its socks in Europe want to destroy Russia. There will be no deal.
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As others and I have said before Nikolaev and Odessa is a must for the link up to Transnistria and Gagauzia anything less would be a total let down to them.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11
Over / under for the gamblers??
I'll call over
Over, and nukes at noon
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A member of Russian Parliament and former commander said 1 day ago on Scott Ritters show that the Kiev regime will be removed.
Russia would not freaking mobilize 100's of 1000's of men to defend the new territories. It makes zero f'ing sense.
Nor was Putin ever looking for a "face saving" way out. That was a fabrication by the Western media
Maybe that is it for outright anexxation. The rest will go to the federal republic of Ukraine. A new entity that has nothing to do with the Kiev regime
Russia would not freaking mobilize 100's of 1000's of men to defend the new territories. It makes zero f'ing sense.
Nor was Putin ever looking for a "face saving" way out. That was a fabrication by the Western media
Maybe that is it for outright anexxation. The rest will go to the federal republic of Ukraine. A new entity that has nothing to do with the Kiev regime
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Today is a day for celebrations (must go to the supermarket soon and buy champagne and a nice cake ;D hahaha)!!!
Yes...Putin left the option open for a peaceful settlement. If Ukraine accepts the situation now then we will see peace. But Zelensky rejected the option.
And no...Ukraine will be no member of NATO in the next 30 years. ALL members of NATO must say Yes to membership....Hungary and Turkey included! Sorry...but no nuclear war ;D haha
Yes...Putin left the option open for a peaceful settlement. If Ukraine accepts the situation now then we will see peace. But Zelensky rejected the option.
And no...Ukraine will be no member of NATO in the next 30 years. ALL members of NATO must say Yes to membership....Hungary and Turkey included! Sorry...but no nuclear war ;D haha
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine is no longer at war though
Russian troops are no longer in Ukraine, they are in Russia
Putin has ended the hostilities
He will exit Kharkov and the rest will go to NATO
So what is the steady rain of missiles on Ukraine? Friendly greetings?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
GunshipDemocracy Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:00 pm
ucmvulcan wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11
Over / under for the gamblers??
I'll call over
Over, and nukes at noon
so US elites must assume they will survive with
In fact now there is a run - Odesa/Transnistria or accepting ukropine to nato...
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ALAMO wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:
Not true.
Well, not so sure about that bro.
NATO carried out several organized actions of melting - physically - outdated equipment en mass.
They made some "enviromental&economic" fiesta out of it, citing how much they have "earned" by disposing a single tank or APC or whatever.
Maybe we should check that with some care because as far as I know, all the reserve stock of M48 and M60, some old AMX, old APCs, trucks etc is gone.
Some of the stocks that are not gone, are in a miserable condition and cant be used.
The very first example I had in mind was a vast stock of Strela MANPADS we had here.
It turned out that having missiles stored in reasonable conditions means perfectly nothing, as there is not a single battery for them left.
Establishing a battery production is possible, but would require time.
There is some news from yesterday, that the logistic supply for spare parts for repairing the pieces delivered to Ukro is non existing.
Nobody was even calculating the scale of usage, the intensity, and the potentially needed spares.
Some are not even produced, as those were not considered as replacement parts!
From my time in the British army many items where kept in storage, some were sold to colonial countries but many still remain in storage in warehouses not outside. And melting equipment down costs more than u realize the Brits tend to sell old equipment to private collectors as they make more money that way and to museums. 155mm towed artillery is still in storage. And I would imagine many European countries are the same. And any NATO member will most likely be told to keep a certain level of equipment in storage and to get rid of anything that is very old or obsolete ammo (not NATO standard)
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Nova Odessa — electric substation was struck, areas of Nikolaev lost power.
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- Post n°846
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #26
PapaDragon Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:04 pm
Will you guys stop blueballing me with nuke talk?
Don't grind my crotch unless you plan to put out
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Russia will take region after region...till Ukraine accepts the new reality.GunshipDemocracy wrote:
In fact now there is a run - Odesa/Transnistria or accepting ukropine to nato...
Next logical step would be....Kharkov.! The distance, the logistics, the importance of Kharkov. And Nikolajev! Russian troops are only 20 km from Nikolajev away.
My personal opinion is that after Kharkov, Nikolajev and Odessa Ukraine must surrender...but they can still resist...who knows?!
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GunshipDemocracy wrote:ucmvulcan wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:franco wrote:NATO accepts Ukrainian application to join...WW3 at 11
Over / under for the gamblers??
I'll call over
Over, and nukes at noon
so US elites must assume they will survive withenough slavesAmerican citizens to serve them ? the I hope Russia has more nukes then officially recorded. So none survives.
In fact now there is a run - Odesa/Transnistria or accepting ukropine to nato...
The power elites here could literally care less about us. I fully expect if we do see nuclear mushroom clouds that our media will tell us how fallout is beneficial and anyone complaining that their cities look like Hiroshima or Nagasaki are peddling misinformation and are obviously Kremlinbots.
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PapaDragon wrote:
Will you guys stop blueballing me with nuke talk?
Don't grind my crotch unless you plan to put out
I actually did Laugh Out Loud
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This means only once thing...next stop Odessa!Isos wrote:A lot of stuff going in Crimea.
For Donetsk or Lugansk reinforcements would go over Belgorod or a bit south. And at Kherson frontline everything is more than stable.
So the plan is very ambitious and nice
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