Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

PhSt wrote:

Perhaps its a good idea to start releasing water from the dam now to minimize the damage in case NATzO decides to proceed to blowing up the dam. If enough water has been released, massive flooding can be prevented in the event the dam is destroyed.

Keep up. They have been for days as reported here a few times.

From MoA

For history books and not only, data from reliable sources that do not mind additional verification.

The irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at 10:00 on October 20, 2022 amounted to 402,000 people, of which 387,000 were killed.

Losses among mercenaries and volunteers from Poland, the Baltic states, and Romania amounted to 54,000 of which 31,240 were killed.

Data from ambulance radio frequencies, via Starlink satellite modems, reports from funeral agencies and extracts from mortuaries and mobile crematoria to Zelensky's headquarters.

Priority for hospital treatment and transportation to medical facilities in Moldova, Romania and Poland is given to PMC fighters and senior officers who have been retrained in the UK and France.

Residents of the central and eastern regions of Ukraine, mainly with Russian roots, bear the greatest losses.
The electorate of the Party of Regions.

The Western regions and the people of Kiev adhere to the deep rear or in the TPO in the west of the country. The official APU suffered 16,500 people and 48,000 missing, considered deserters or violators of orders.

The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Ukraine prepared more than 320,000 appeals about the fate of the missing fighters from among the mobilized, but the SBU forbade them to be transferred to the military prosecutor's office.

https://t.me/obrazbuduschego2/11686

That sounds more believable considering that a huge proportion of total casualties are left unreported. Throughout the war UAF just let their soldiers in the field reported as missing or unknown, and refusing burial.

Ukraine does not need to pay any support for families whose loved ones are "missing", and their commanders can "withhold" wages.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2022 18:34 utc | 257

The number Shoigu announced seemed much too low but 400k seems too much. So who is still alive and attacking on the entire front line? And who are the 20-30k Belarus says that are waiting at its borders?
And 54k dead mercenaries? The official Russian number of foreigners, total, wasn't less than 10k? Hard to believe. Is this a Russian channel?

Posted by: rk | Oct 22 2022 19:03 utc | 267

JohninMK wrote:From MoA

For history books and not only, data from reliable sources that do not mind additional verification.

The irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at 10:00 on October 20, 2022 amounted to 402,000 people, of which 387,000 were killed.

Losses among mercenaries and volunteers from Poland, the Baltic states, and Romania amounted to 54,000 of which 31,240 were killed.

Data from ambulance radio frequencies, via Starlink satellite modems, reports from funeral agencies and extracts from mortuaries and mobile crematoria to Zelensky's headquarters.

Priority for hospital treatment and transportation to medical facilities in Moldova, Romania and Poland is given to PMC fighters and senior officers who have been retrained in the UK and France.

Residents of the central and eastern regions of Ukraine, mainly with Russian roots, bear the greatest losses.
The electorate of the Party of Regions.

The Western regions and the people of Kiev adhere to the deep rear or in the TPO in the west of the country. The official APU suffered 16,500 people and 48,000 missing, considered deserters or violators of orders.

The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Ukraine prepared more than 320,000 appeals about the fate of the missing fighters from among the mobilized, but the SBU forbade them to be transferred to the military prosecutor's office.

https://t.me/obrazbuduschego2/11686

That sounds more believable considering that a huge proportion of total casualties are left unreported. Throughout the war UAF just let their soldiers in the field reported as missing or unknown, and refusing burial.

Ukraine does not need to pay any support for families whose loved ones are "missing", and their commanders can "withhold" wages.

Posted by: unimperator | Oct 22 2022 18:34 utc | 257

The number Shoigu announced seemed much too low but 400k seems too much. So who is still alive and attacking on the entire front line? And who are the 20-30k Belarus says that are waiting at its borders?
And 54k dead mercenaries? The official Russian number of foreigners, total, wasn't less than 10k? Hard to believe. Is this a Russian channel?

Posted by: rk | Oct 22 2022 19:03 utc | 267

That old tale about the mobile crematoriums

Says enough about the source

https://t.me/vicktop55/7744

They are already openly talking about the invasion of American troops into Ukraine.

Former CIA director and ex-commander of US and NATO forces in Afghanistan, David Petraeus, does not rule out that a "multinational" contingent led by the United States, rather than NATO itself, may take part in the conflict in Ukraine.
"The US and other countries may respond in one way or another, but as a US-led multinational force, not as a NATO force," he said.
Earlier it became known that the United States deployed the 101st Airborne Division in Europe to participate in military exercises, the commander of which declared his readiness to enter the territory of Ukraine “in the event of an escalation.” https://t.me/greatrussia1/21354

DerWolf wrote:That would be a serious escalation

It's already happening, Russia announced the creation of the special co-ordination council just a couple of days ago

Hole wrote:
Kirovograd sub-station

Who would have thought that oil-filled electrical transformers would have burned so well?

More please Mr Surovikin.

flamming_python wrote:That old tale about the mobile crematoriums

Says enough about the source

Classic propaganda tropes always get recycled. The "rape kits" accusation has already resurfaced. Allegations of Russians using "gas chambers" in 3.. 2... 1....

Backman wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

DerWolf wrote:That would be a serious escalation

It's already happening, Russia announced the creation of the special co-ordination council just a couple of days ago

How are the 2 related ?

Well the US threatening to deploy an unofficial NATO expeditionary force to the Ukraine amounts to a possible widening of the war in the near future.
Retroactively maybe, justifying the start of mobilization, and certainly the partial mobilization of the civilian economy towards production of war material as well; something the council will be busy with