Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

I don't really care about accusations about Lapin being incompetent, but I'm worried that its true that he threatened mobilized troops with a gun for retreating due to lack of any support. O group also implies the guy has a short temper. Also there are accusations that those mobilized who suffered heavy casaulties, after being threatened by lapin, were left without any orders, and wagnerites who were supposed to command them just started insulting them and calling them traitors.

BTW if russia shoots down that shitty US global hawk would that actually trigger Article 5? On what grounds would that cause the US to declare war on russia, despite it already being a party to the conflict by using these drones to control ukrainian suicide drones.

Where were the air and sea drones launched from? Odessa? From one of the "grain" carrying ships?

The preparation of this terrorist act and the training of military personnel of the Ukrainian 73rd Special Center for Maritime Operations were carried out under the guidance of British specialists located in the city of Ochakov, Nikolaev region of Ukraine.
According to available information, representatives of this unit of the British Navy took part in the planning, provision and implementation of a terrorist attack in the Baltic Sea on September 26 of this year. on blowing up the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines

We have the Russian mod outright state that the Anglo  Nazis have committed an act of war against  Russia, with regards to todays attack and the pipeline, yet zero response… all this will do is invite more and bigger attacks, as Russia remains passive.. Has anyone in Russia got any fucking balls left when it comes to dealing with the western scum? What is the point of even saying it, if you’re willing to take it up the ass, at least stfu about it

Serberus wrote:
We have the Russian mod outright state that the Anglo  Nazis have committed an act of war against  Russia, with regards to todays attack and the pipeline, yet zero response… all this will do is invite more and bigger attacks, as Russia remains passive.. Has anyone in Russia got any fucking balls left when it comes to dealing with the western scum? This is becoming a circus. What is the point of even saying it,if you’re gonna take it up the ass, at least stfu about it

Terrorist acts against Russia will continue - they can only do so much to prevent it and I'm sure the FSB are doing a great job. The thing is Russia doesn't have to do much as lots of Nazi scum will die this winter anyway and the anti-Russian leadership in the EU will have a hard time justifying their continued support for the [F]Ukrs with skyrocketing energy prices.

https://www.rt.com/news/565552-czech-protestors-demand-pm-resign/

Reports that a Russian minesweeper (Ivan Golubets) may have been damaged in the underwater drone attacks.

EDIT: added link

https://avia-pro.net/news/v-rezultate-utrenney-ataki-dronov-v-krymu-okazalsya-povrezhdyon-boevoy-korabl-ivan-golubec

limb wrote:I don't really care about accusations about Lapin being incompetent, but I'm worried that its true that he threatened mobilized troops with a gun for retreating due to lack of any support. O group also implies the guy has a short temper. Also there are accusations that those mobilized who suffered heavy casaulties, after being threatened by lapin, were left without any orders, and wagnerites who were supposed to command them just started insulting them and calling them traitors.

BTW if russia shoots down that shitty US global hawk would that actually trigger Article 5? On what grounds would that cause the US to declare war on russia, despite it already being a party to the conflict by using these drones to control ukrainian suicide drones.

Do you have any links to the things you said about the mobiled troops?

I don't believe that because high command would have come down hard, if that happened.

Also Wanger group are also volunteers, I have read before that the leader of the Wanger group said nobody touches the volunteers because they are there on their will.

I am not accusing you of anything, I would just be very surprised if that happened.

Elon Musk's Starlink has been hijacked by the US military, it is be used in Ukraine and there talks it will be used in other countries as well.

What can be done to **** this system? Does Russia or China have the technology to block communications on Starlink, where it becomes useless?

How would you deal with it?

Anyone can Id the targets ?

@Isos

Saw your post "offline". Looks like a Buk.

Buk and M777

According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

PapaDragon wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?

Everywhere he commanded, ukrainian achieved successes.

The tchetchen leader hates him.

franco wrote:

   "As a result of the operational measures taken by the forces of the Black Sea Fleet, all air targets were destroyed," Igor Konashenkov, official representative of the military department, said at a briefing.

It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones.

par far wrote:
Do you have any links to the things you said about the mobiled troops?

I don't believe that because high command would have come down hard, if that happened.

Also Wanger group are also volunteers, I have read before that the leader of the Wanger group said nobody touches the volunteers because they are there on their will.

I am not accusing you of anything, I would just be very surprised if that happened.

It was posted on the official tg account of Rusich. They are nationalists. Closely aligned with Wagner. It is very possible was only bullshit and part of the organized campaign against Lapin. It doesn't matter anymore, as he is dismissed.

PapaDragon wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?

Lapin is/was in command of Central Military district. One of his units was involved in Belogorovka crossing.

famschopman wrote:

It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones.

Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.

caveat emptor wrote:

famschopman wrote:

It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones.

Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.

What I meant is that all air targets were taken out, but there is no mention of sea drones being intercepted. So it could be that the sea drones actually penetrated and caused damage.

Afaik, these sea drones are always hardwired and not autonomous as they don't have enough signal underwater. It should not be difficult to track which ships were close and could have acted as the command center.

famschopman wrote:

caveat emptor wrote:

famschopman wrote:

It only mentions air target being taken out, but doesn’t mention the sea drones.

Other sources mention nine air drones and 7 sea drones.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/29/10/2022/635d062a9a7947d46b55d1b2?from=article_body

Also, minesweeper Ivan Golubets suffered minor damage.

What I meant is that all air targets were taken out, but there is no mention of sea drones being intercepted. So it could be that the sea drones actually penetrated and caused damage.

Afaik, these sea drones are always hardwired and not autonomous as they don't have enough signal underwater. It should not be difficult to track which ships were close and could have acted as the command center.

Read somewhere but cannot locate now that 4 were destroyed out at sea, 1 detonated against the antisubmarine net and another damaged (?) the minesweeper while being destroyed... that leaves one and obviously it was accounted for somehow.

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:According to preliminary data, Alexander Lapin, who commanded the group of Russian troops "O" in the Northern Military District, was removed from his post.

Who is he? What did he f*ck up specifically?

Everywhere he commanded, ukrainian achieved successes.

The tchetchen leader hates him.

Not true in so many ways.
1 - commander of the Central MD not the Northern MD
2 - successful in Syria, liberated Palmaria
3 - took over command of the Russian forces in Luhansk and Kharkov from the Western MD commander when he faltered. Liberated Severodonetsk / Lysychans'k, Popasna and I believe he was in command of liberating Lyman and possibly Izyum.

Ukrainians released a video from underwater drones. They have cameras and they are probably remotely guided.
Maybe admiral Makakrov is hit by ome of them? At least that's how it looks from the video.
https://t.me/milinfolive/92614