thegopnik wrote:Vitali Klitschko, the mayor of Kyiv, is asking the EU to send him blankets because his soldiers will not survive the winter. Ironic or not, it's still funny and shows the real picture of the situation.
Clittie my lad... You ain't surviving the Winter... PERIOD
flamming_python wrote:You and billybalts are trying your hardest to serve NATO on this forum, but it's not going to work.
Despicable little HATO-fluffers at work. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they were NAFOs. Their shit stinks in exactly the same way.
I'd encourage ALL forum members to block these bozos and not openly quote their nonsense. If you must quote them however, pls edit out their names and replace with a suitable "alternative" handle
Constructive criticism makes NAFO shills now? So Russian leadership and actions are beyond criticism now? We all have to be good little lackeys and just nod our head in agreement to every dumb decision Russia makes and not point out the faults?
flamming_python wrote:You and billybalts are trying your hardest to serve NATO on this forum, but it's not going to work.
Despicable little HATO-fluffers at work. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they were NAFOs. Their shit stinks in exactly the same way.
I'd encourage ALL forum members to block these bozos and not openly quote their nonsense. If you must quote them however, pls edit out their names and replace with a suitable "alternative" handle
Nah, it's ok to have them and have a laugh at their nonsense.
Big_Gazza wrote:Leave the Russian security professionals to do their thing.
That's the problem. Letting the current "professionals" "do their thing" has led to disaster for Russia so far. Those "professionals" are terrible at their jobs. Major changes are needed and fast.
thegopnik wrote:The Polish government is preparing a springboard for the invasion and seizure of its "historical lands" in Western Ukraine, Modern Diplomacy writes.
LOL!! Lets see how the Banderites welcome the Poles taking over their "nation". I suspect that the Slava Ukropi crowd hate the Poolanders with only a little less vehermence than they hate the "Moskals". Once it becomes clear that the toilet cleaners intend for "Ukraine" to return to its "historical" Polish identity then it won't be long until the nazi death squads take their frustrations out on their fellow HATO auxilliaries.
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billybatts91 wrote:Constructive criticism makes NAFO shills now? So Russian leadership and actions are beyond criticism now? We all have to be good little lackeys and just nod our head in agreement to every dumb decision Russia makes and not point out the faults?
You didn't engage in "criticism". You are channeling NATO propaganda and Ukropi-trash lies.
Try debunking the "sitrep" I posted. Try challenging my take on the expanding geopolitics of this civiliational struggle, or where the important trends are heading. Talk about comparative losses. Talk about failed Ukrop offensives and collapse of their morale. Talk about the ongoing MASSIVE Russian mobilisation and concentration of war fighting assets behind the currently defended lines of contact inpreparation for a war-ending general winter offensive.
You don't want to be summarily dismissed as a child? Then debate as an adult.
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thegopnik wrote:Vitali Klitschko, the mayor of Kyiv, is asking the EU to send him blankets because his soldiers will not survive the winter. Ironic or not, it's still funny and shows the real picture of the situation.
Clittie my lad... You ain't surviving the Winter... PERIOD
These ukrops. They funny
But the TV said that the Ukrainians were receiving wonderwaffle clothing for the winter and that Russia didn't have the ability to make cold weather gear for its forces. To be sure I started laughing at this. Most people are able to see how nonsensical that claim is, but in case Ms. Low Def and the NAFO clowns on here can't see why that claim is ridiculous, just read the following very slowly until it sinks in:
"Russia does not have the capability of making cold weather gear for its army."
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It's not a matter of balls nor of means. Simply one of information. If you don't know where said British specialists are, you can't take them out. Russia knows the town where they're based in, or supposes to, but that's about it. If their location is revealed then they'll be eliminated without any difficulty. While destroying an entire town just to kill them and what Ukrainian specialists work with them is not Russia's approach.
This problem is not as easy as it may sound to you or to other gung-ho types here. The US had constant trouble locating this or that pro-Iranian militia leader in Iraq, sometimes having to look for them for years.
In fact a number of cruise missile strikes across the Ukraine over the course of the war concerned themselves with targeting NATO specialists, I remember near Odessa some M777 artillery specialists were reported as killed by the Russian MoD. And there are other examples. Sometimes these mercs or agents though will succeed in what they're there to do and that's just part of war.
Screw cruise missiles across Ukraine, strike at their warships in Britain using 3rd parties just like what they are doing, strike at their bases around the world… arm their enemies. There are many who have felt the sting of Anglo Nazism and would love the chance to strike back with some help from Russia. No balls, end of discussion.
This whole “SMO” has been a shambles and your blindfolds are starting to really look sad. 9 fucking months and Russia isnt able to liberate Donbass let alone all the territories they have “annexed”. Cant take small towns and villages like Artemovsk or Avdeevka after months of fighting but some of you talk about taking large cities like Nikolayev, Zaporozhye or even Odessa… thats some fantasy level shit.
Not a single large scale offensive in months, no gains of any sort, massive loss of territory, on the back foot on almost every front. If you're happy with this results after 9 months I feel for your state of mind.
Putin can make all the great speeches he wants, hold referendums , but if the enemy holds the ground its all for nothing, we can yell Kosovo is Serbia all day every day but at the end of the day its symbolic bullshit as long as the enemy hold the ground.
At what point do you start smelling the roses.
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Big_Gazza wrote:Leave the Russian security professionals to do their thing.
That's the problem. Letting the current "professionals" "do their thing" has led to disaster for Russia so far. Those "professionals" are terrible at their jobs. Major changes are needed and fast.
You are NAFO. Total and wilful ignorance of the reality on the ground, and a reflexive repetition of debunked talking points when challenged.
You are fighting a faith-based propaganda war against Russia on behalf of your tribal group. You'll "lose" because your "facts" are fake, and your side ignores inconvenient tuiths that demolish your narratives because your side are too emtionally invested in the groupthink and simply cannot bear to be wrong. I think your side also now recogises how monumental this conflict is shaping up to be, how your side is actually LOSING, and they are becoming increasing alarmed that there will be a massive collapse of their wealth, power and privilege as a result of their failed imperial gambit.
Read what I wrote and try to debunk. Otherwise, pls cease the white noise. Its like Ukrop EW in the Kherson front. Ineffectual and annoying, easily swept aside. Not worth the effort or cost to continue.
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Arrow wrote:The RQ-4 probably coordinated the drone attack on Sevastopol. Why doesn't Russia shoot down these US drones. Iran had no objection to this. The drone is over international waters, but it coordinates the attack on Russian territory.
Because US would be very happy to use that as excuse to attack any Russian interest or asset in international airspace or waters. Being a retarded dickhead is not one of the qualities that allowed Putin to bring Russia back on track.
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Of course. But aren't you a bit goddamn tired that Russia has a tendency in any of it's forms entering wars with pants half way on ?
flamming_python wrote:
I don't see any evidence of a lack of preparation at all. Simply just some theories, some equipment, some tactics, some commanders didn't perform as expected in a real war of this scale. And it's the same situation for the other side.
Invading Ukraine with such insufficient forces.. come now. And we both read the same forums on RuNet we both have I'm pretty sure have former army buddies and family members.
Brigades being only full strength on paper wasn't a theory.
flamming_python wrote:
The fact that you don't hear about the other side's mistakes but have to infer them - because their control of information and state propaganda is stronger than Russia's ever was - is another matter.
We heard plenty on Ukraine and i'm sure we will hear even more once the dust settles. But that doesn't excuse a lot of stupidity and **** ups that have happened on our side.
I know you been always a optimist. But I'm surprised how this whole war been handled doesn't infuriate you.
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billybatts91 wrote:Constructive criticism makes NAFO shills now? So Russian leadership and actions are beyond criticism now? We all have to be good little lackeys and just nod our head in agreement to every dumb decision Russia makes and not point out the faults?
You didn't engage in "criticism". You are channeling NATO propaganda and Ukropi-trash lies.
Try debunking the "sitrep" I posted. Try challenging my take on the expanding geopolitics of this civiliational struggle, or where the important trends are heading. Talk about comparative losses. Talk about failed Ukrop offensives and collapse of their morale. Talk about the ongoing MASSIVE Russian mobilisation and concentration of war fighting assets behind the currently defended lines of contact inpreparation for a war-ending general winter offensive.
You don't want to be summarily dismissed as a child? Then debate as an adult.
More delusional talk. Trends? Who cares, I'm talking about the Ukraine conflict and only that. Could care less about the trends in the geopolitical future that will take place decades from now. What collapse of morale? Ukrainians seem to have a pretty high morale as of right now thanks to the large swaths of land they've taken from the Russians recently.
Mobilization, big deal, let's see how this mobilized force will perform in the coming weeks. If they have successes, I will praise them obviously. We have to see how things play out in the coming weeks. You're getting ahead of yourself as if Russia has had some big success as of late when it clearly hasn't, only losses/failure. Your optimism right now is not warranted until Russia has success on the ground and starts taking back the land that belongs to it. Until then, the criticism of Russian leadership and actions should continue as to light a fire under their asses! Ramzan has done it a lot recently and he's in Putin's inner circle, we should be doing the same.
You are fighting a faith-based propaganda war against Russia on behalf of your tribal group. You'll "lose" because your "facts" are fake, and your side ignores inconvenient tuiths that demolish your narratives because your side are too emtionally invested in the groupthink and simply cannot bear to be wrong. I think your side also now recogises how monumental this conflict is shaping up to be, how your side is actually LOSING, and they are becoming increasing alarmed that there will be a massive collapse of their wealth, power and privilege as a result of their failed imperial gambit.
Read what I wrote and try to debunk. Otherwise, pls cease the white noise. Its like Ukrop EW in the Kherson front. Ineffectual and annoying, easily swept aside. Not worth the effort or cost to continue.
Indeed, the hysterical yammering about tactical nukes demonstrates that NATzO is losing. The US has just revised its doctrine on nuclear weapons to use them in basically any context. So a conventional attack by the designated enemy against some US aggression justifies the yanquis to use nuclear weapons. I know that the US and NATzO did not adopt a no-first-use policy during the Cold War but this new doctrine is another level.
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Screw cruise missiles across Ukraine, strike at their warships in Britain using 3rd parties just like what they are doing, strike at their bases around the world… arm their enemies. There are many who have felt the sting of Anglo Nazism and would love the chance to strike back with some help from Russia. No balls, end of discussion.
Good idea, and I share your sense of anger, but all that comes AFTER the Evil Empire is defeated in Ukopistan.
Striking direct at NATO might be a (temporary) salve for the soul, but its counter-productive as it provides NATO sock puppets with grist for their agitprop mill which they can use to build anger within their own populations and increase their tolerance for pain. Russia is best served by having the NATO publics angry against their OWN governments, not baying for blood in the streets, demanding revenge against Russians for strikes against their nation. Consider the terror bombing of the Kerch Strait bridge? It was nothing but a pin prick, and while it gave the Kiev sheeple an opportunity for selfies in front of a giant postage stamp, it worked out in Russias favour as it was the catalyst that finally led to a formal change of the campaign.
Russia should not assist the feckless corrupt EU/US elites in their efforts to radicalise their own people to support their failing war. As the EU grinds to a halt this winter, we want the herd to blame London, Berlin, Paris, Brussels for their pain and grief. Once its over and the West is buckling to its knees there are many vulnerable geostrategic weak points that can targetted with a covert application of Russian (and allied) power. Syria is a good example. Imagine the calamity that would ensue if (when) the US loses its SDF client, is pushed out of East Syria, and can no longer steal Euphrates oil?
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MoD Russia Today at 4.20 am, the Kiev regime carried out a terrorist attack against the ships of the Black Sea Fleet and civilian ships that were on the outer and inner roadsteads of the Sevastopol base.
The attack involved nine unmanned aerial vehicles and seven autonomous maritime drones.
The prompt measures taken by the forces of the Black Sea Fleet destroyed all air targets.
When repulsing the terrorist attack on the outer roadstead of Sevastopol, four marine unmanned vehicles were annihilated by shipborne weapons and maritime aviation of the Black Sea Fleet, and three more were destroyed on the inner roadstead.
Minor damage was received by the sea minesweeper Ivan Golubets as well as the floating net boom in Yuzhnaya Bay.
It should be emphasised that the ships of the Black Sea Fleet that were subjected to the terrorist attack are involved in ensuring the security of the ‘grain corridor’ as part of an international initiative to export agricultural products from Ukrainian ports.
The preparation of this terrorist act and the training of military personnel of 73rd Marine Special Operations Center were carried out under supervision of British specialists in the city of Ochakov, Nikolayev region in Ukraine.
According to the available information, representatives of this unit from the British Navy were involved in plotting, organising, and implementation of the terrorist attack in the Baltic Sea on 26 September this year to blow up the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines.
@mod_russia_en
>> They are preparing nice fat dossiers for certain gentlemen. It is going to be slow and it is going to be painful, as proper degenerates from UK would like it
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Dear BBC, CNN, DW, Sky News et al I found some news footage for you in the event that you have the bollocks to publish it. https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11708
(WARNING the above link shows the execution of wounded men by Ukrainian forces.)
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billybatts91 wrote:More delusional talk. Trends? Who cares, I'm talking about the Ukraine conflict and only that. Could care less about the trends in the geopolitical future that will take place decades from now. What collapse of morale? Ukrainians seem to have a pretty high morale as of right now thanks to the large swaths of land they've taken from the Russians recently.[url=https://servimg.com/view/20411266/14]
Mobilization, big deal, let's see how this mobilized force will perform in the coming weeks. If they have successes, I will praise them obviously. We have to see how things play out in the coming weeks. You're getting ahead of yourself as if Russia has had some big success as of late when it clearly hasn't, only losses/failure. Your optimism right now is not warranted until Russia has success on the ground and starts taking back the land that belongs to it. Until then, the criticism of Russian leadership and actions should continue as to light a fire under their asses! Ramzan has done it a lot recently and he's in Putin's inner circle, we should be doing the same.
FYI, "trends in the geopolitical future" are not happening decades from now. They are happening TODAY Don't believe that collapse of Western authority isn't happening just because our witless sock puppets won't admit it publically. The West can lose a military confrontation in Ukropistan and survive intact, but it CANNOT survive a loss of global dominance and the undermining of the petro-dollar fiat currency that underpins its true power.
Ukie morale soared as they advanced into territory that Russia decided to abandon so they could consolidate their over-stretched lines of contact (manpower limitations caused by the self-limiting terms of reference of the SMO, not any actual "weakness" of the Russian military), but has since collapsed as they finally reached Russias defense-lines and have not been able to advance since despite their horrendous losses. Try to understand. Advancing across a broad front while your opponent avoids your attacks and you fail to deliver any significant damage to him is NOT a victory. You are being led by the nose. Ukies now understand they have been manipulated to be right where the Russians want them - out of the cities, within easy reach of Russian forces, tired, exhausted, beaten down, armour lost, suppies running low, massive casulaties.
As an example, Ukie dog-soldiers on the northern "Kharkov" front find themselves stuck between an upcoming Russian offensive and the Oskol river. I had thought the Oskol was going to be a defence line, but it isn't. Its a TRAP. I think the Russians permitted the Ukrops to cross in strength, then held them with prepared defenses. The Russian offensive will now take out the Ukropi river crossings, deny them a lne of retreat, and then CRUSH them as they break and run. I suspect that Russian forces will probably turn south and converge on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk but that just my prediction and I've been wrong on tactical minutae plenty of times before, just like everyone watching from their counches.
Ukies are starting to panic and you can SMELL THE FEAR. The REAL war is only just now beginning
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crod wrote:Dear CIA News agencies I found some news footage for you in the event that you have the bollocks to publish it. https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11708
Fixed it for you for accuracy sake
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crod wrote:Dear BBC, CNN, DW, Sky News et al I found some news footage for you in the event that you have the bollocks to publish it. https://t.me/CyberspecNews/11708
Pls add SPOILER to this sort of disgusting Ukropi war porn. Its important to know the depths of Ukropi savagery, but warning should be given.
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