Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

Hole wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:For Ukraine

And NATO.


Lancet everywhere

Another one gone

What´s left of a Ukro Strela-10 after a short visit of Lancet

They seem to be using these drones a lot on taking out artillery and Air defence systems majority of the footage seems to be destruction of such. Have to admit it makes enjoying viewing

About repair of the Crimea Bridge , it looks good , but it is taking too long . I imagine that the Orcs will get longer range weapons to hit this and other Bridges again . I mentioned before , and say again that temporary " U " section floating barges need to be made to bypass any damaged section , without a straight section permanent repair . Same for a floating rail section , to bypass damaged section . Also enough pontoon Bridges need to be ready for Dnieper itself , just in case crossings are needed . About long term plan of capturing non - Russian speaking lands , it is not good idea , unless pacification of the West is impossible from a distance or by air or by economic sanctions . This is unlikely , if coast is captured and East liberated . West region , can remain pacified , without using force .

Calling a slow process of replacing two spans on a two-lane strategic character bridge in 6 weeks is retarded, and you know that, don't you?

What if Tanks are on this Bridge , trying to cross into Crimea ? Or military supplies of food or fuel ? Can they wait 6 weeks ? Perhaps supplies can be built- up in Crimea for a period of six weeks . Assuming there is only one section that was hit ! What if there are two or more sections ? Then Ships are needed to transport . Assuming there are Ships available that will survive a Harpoon .....So what is wrong and retarded in making sure ? Floating Bridges were used in D- day landings , floating Tanks also...



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Point_Floating_Bridge

nomadski wrote:What if Tanks are on this Bridge , trying to cross into Crimea ? Or military supplies of food or fuel ? Can they wait 6 weeks ? Perhaps supplies can be built- up in Crimea for a period of six weeks . Assuming there is only one section that was hit ! What if there are two or more sections ? Then Ships are needed to transport . Assuming there are Ships available that will survive a Harpoon .....So what is wrong and retarded in making sure ? Floating Bridges were used in D- day landings , floating Tanks also...

Nah, they will go by the rail bridge.

nomadski wrote:
About repair of the Crimea Bridge , it looks good , but it is taking too long . I imagine that the Orcs will get longer range weapons to hit this and other Bridges again  . I mentioned before , and say again that temporary " U " section floating barges need to be made to bypass any damaged section , without a straight section permanent repair . Same for a floating rail section , to bypass damaged section . Also enough pontoon Bridges need to be ready for Dnieper itself , just in case crossings are needed . About long term plan of capturing non - Russian speaking lands , it is not good idea , unless pacification of the West is impossible from a distance  or by air or by economic sanctions . This is unlikely , if coast is captured and East liberated . West region , can  remain pacified , without using force .

no way champ - the exact opposite imo and i would wager they were put on 24 hr construction shift splits to have done in uber fast time as a two fingers up.

Broski wrote:
That looks like a map of territory Russia will be liberating in the near future, marked in red of course.

Kiev must be taken as it is a russian city and always was. No more ukrops on the internet that will talk about "Kievan Rus'" which this faggots ignore the "Rus'" part let alone have a slightest idea about history.
I recently made unpleasant contact with a Russian girl from Moldova and she believes the same garbage as the Ukrops have been intoxicated with. Kievan Rus' is Ukranians and Russians have generated later from them. The alternative history these people get brainwashed with is astounding.

Taking Kiev will also mean defacto a total defeat for Ukrops and the West, because everything that follows will be nothing but skirmishes, the true definition of denazification. Just simple and slow generational wipe out of Nazi mindset on battlefield and in the heads. They will see how the silent majority will speak up and they will be in disbelief.

Kiev needs to be taken, but keep on the Doritos party until the City is almost empty, then surround it and cut out all the influx of anything. It will take a long time until they run out of most things, however, with certain targets targeted inside Kiev you can speed up the process. Destroy Electric grid that it can't be repaired for half a year or longer. This will force them to use diesel wherever it is necessary to have electricity. Target Communication joints, which will make it for civilian population of the 21st century so unpleasant to sit around in the dark with no possibility to communicate. The youngsters will leave immediately just from lack of electricity and interwebz.

Without electricity most of the grid is just blacked-out. No fresh water, no food processing or distribution. The conditions will have half the city of now be wanting to leave immediately. Then target daily any VSU formations with Doritos and Iskanders at anything that is stored or moved by them.

Sooner or later it will be easier to take a ghost city.

We need to assume that 30-45% of the population won't leave anyways, so the question will be of tactics and outcome.

A good, old, medieval siege.
They will be in the middle ages anyway by that time.

Erk wrote:

nomadski wrote:What if Tanks are on this Bridge , trying to cross into Crimea ? Or military supplies of food or fuel ? Can they wait 6 weeks ? Perhaps supplies can be built- up in Crimea for a period of six weeks . Assuming there is only one section that was hit ! What if there are two or more sections ? Then Ships are needed to transport . Assuming there are Ships available that will survive a Harpoon .....So what is wrong and retarded in making sure ? Floating Bridges were used in D- day landings , floating Tanks also...

Nah, they will go by the rail bridge.

Or the ferries or by road via Mariupol. Spoilt for choice

ALAMO wrote:A good, old, medieval siege.
They will be in the middle ages anyway by that time.

Some psychologial warfare is also acceptable. Just play Katyusha every night with the biggest and loudest speakers you can find. Sleep deprivation and the Dorito'ization is enough to make society collapse of that city.

You have no idea how some of the silent people in Kiev have smiled once they saw the fear and terror on SS-Larpers faces once they were targeted by Doritos daily. There are a lot of people there who would tolerate having no electricity just for a simple cold revenge on this Nazi creatures.

Werewolf wrote:

Broski wrote:
That looks like a map of territory Russia will be liberating in the near future, marked in red of course.

Kiev must be taken as it is a russian city and always was. No more ukrops on the internet that will talk about "Kievan Rus'" which this faggots ignore the "Rus'" part let alone have a slightest idea about history.
I recently made unpleasant contact with a Russian girl from Moldova and she believes the same garbage as the Ukrops have been intoxicated with. Kievan Rus' is Ukranians and Russians have generated later from them. The alternative history these people get brainwashed with is astounding.

Taking Kiev will also mean defacto a total defeat for Ukrops and the West, because everything that follows will be nothing but skirmishes, the true definition of denazification. Just simple and slow generational wipe out of Nazi mindset on battlefield and in the heads. They will see how the silent majority will speak up and they will be in disbelief.

Kiev needs to be taken, but keep on the Doritos party until the City is almost empty, then surround it and cut out all the influx of anything. It will take a long time until they run out of most things, however, with certain targets targeted inside Kiev you can speed up the process. Destroy Electric grid that it can't be repaired for half a year or longer. This will force them to use diesel wherever it is necessary to have electricity. Target Communication joints, which will make it for civilian population of the 21st century so unpleasant to sit around in the dark with no possibility to communicate. The youngsters will leave immediately just from lack of electricity and interwebz.

Without electricity most of the grid is just blacked-out. No fresh water, no food processing or distribution. The conditions will have half the city of now be wanting to leave immediately. Then target daily any VSU formations with Doritos and Iskanders at anything that is stored or moved by them.

Sooner or later it will be easier to take a ghost city.

We need to assume that 30-45% of the population won't leave anyways, so the question will be of tactics and outcome.

What is with this humanitarian crisis death porn?

Going down the Arkhangelsk route

Best the Kiev/Kievan Rus elite finally get a clue and re-open negotiations. Because otherwise the Ukraine will be split down the middle by Russia and NATO, however many months or years of war later

Half of my family are from Kiev.
And I would say Kiev is pivotal to the status of Russia in the future.
Of course there is Novgorod too, but Kiev is a spiritual ancestral home for the whole Russian people. In the founding of Russia, in the Orthodox church and the fact that for a vast length of time it has been a key city of Russia. Once capital, then second to Moscow and finally third largest after Moscow and Piotr. I don't care how many Bandera-filth are evicted.

flamming_python wrote:
What is with this humanitarian crisis death porn?
Going down the Arkhangelsk route
Best the Kiev/Kievan Rus elite finally get a clue and re-open negotiations. Because otherwise the Ukraine will be split down the middle by Russia and NATO, however many months or years of war later

No bro, it is not best.
Hardly even acceptable.
The Kievan junta lost the credibility long time ago.
And the Ukro society lost any credit for calm treatment by showing the level of zombification that has no equals since the WW2.
No deal signed with the Ukrs will be solid, and none can be trusted.
Take a calm look from a distance on this whole situation, and how it developed.

For 8 years, Russkie were just insisting for the implementation of a peace deal the beaten regime was forced to sign in 2014.
They didn't push for anything more than that, and to be honest, Kiev didn't have to loose much of that.
Sure, the Crimea was gone, but both the LDNR were to stay in the Ukrainian boarders with slightly more representative status.
Again, that claim was nothing new - the Westerners were demanding just the same while Party of Regions was winning the elections.
The difference was, that when the East was winning the elections - mob was put on the streets of Kiev, ze Wezt started its yapping, and the country was pushed on the edge of civil war each and any time. While when the West had - Easterners were just working as usual.
It was Putin's administration that favored the territorial integrity of the Ukrainian state, more than the junta itself.
A daily misery, deaths & destruction was a price Moscow was sadly ready to pay to keep the war away, and the conflict at low level.

Any type of peace agreement with the existing junta won't be worth a paper it would be written on. They must be defeated, displaced, arrested, jailed and executed in some cases. Chased in Canada or the US and liquidated, the same way as Chechenyan thugs were killed on the streets of Quatar, Vienna or Berlin for years. And are being chased till now.

They seem to be using these drones a lot on taking out artillery and Air defence systems majority of the footage seems to be destruction of such. Have to admit it makes enjoying viewing 

The new way of doing SEAD/DEAD and counter-battery fire. Not that graduates of the Zapp Brannigan School for Military Arts like RWA would realise that. 

flamming_python wrote:
What is with this humanitarian crisis death porn?

Going down the Arkhangelsk route

Ohh,FP, you are really mistaken.
I am certainly not the one who is for death porn of any civilian population.

Kiev is quite a big city and targeting certain infrastructural key points are also legitimate targets in war. Having no electricity will be unpleasant but certainly not a death sentence for the population there. It will force citizens of the city out of the town, especially if you make it clear that this is the daily business for Kievans for the next months. The city has also not just one water purification system but multiple. Blanking half these systems will put pressure on daily life of citizens which will result in conditions that they will leave Kiev rather stay there. Target Communication junctions of internet points is absolutely a no-brainer and is a highly precious military target. It will have no affect on civilian population other than they are not going online for PSYOPS warfare.
The young generation can't life without their phones and being online 24/7. This is a good thing, less young military fit people in town to be send to the front lines. Less people in town less people that can potentially be mobilized or killed by either side.

You do realize that sooner or later Kiev needs to be taken just like Odessa?
How do you believe this is going to happen?

Certainly Russia has proven to care a lot more about Ukrainian lifes than Kokaina has. Draining the city from civilians is the wisest decision to do. Ukrops don't evacuate any city whatsoever. They use them as human shields and cannon fodder.

So what is your proposal? Leave Kiev alone? If that is your proposal, then Russia can't and shouldn't advance at all. Which will result in more deaths and longer strain on population that still have hope to live peacefully. Sooner or later this population will even accept living under NATO just to have peace. Not doing anything will result in you losing more and at the end even the war at home of minds of your population.

Flamming Python wrote:
Best the Kiev/Kievan Rus elite finally get a clue and re-open negotiations. Because otherwise the Ukraine will be split down the middle by Russia and NATO, however many months or years of war later

You are smarter than that.
You damn well know, unless there is some military coup against Zelensky's office and set ups immediately someone who will open up emergency negotiations, that any believes or dreams of negotiations are nonsensical to think about.

There will be more effort from Orkrainzy to have a coup after Kiev and Odessa and everything east from this places is under Russian banner.

Zelensky like any other puppet has all his assets in the West and has no ability to move the politics that have been already set up for him whatsoever.

He will say whatever is wanted of him.
He will do as he is commanded to.
Ultimately he will be killed from either side.
Any other outcome would be shocking.

Current situation. Mopeds in the air?

Greyzone is convinced that kherson will be left, because there are several bridges blown up there.

I hope this is justba psyop

limb wrote:Greyzone is convinced that kherson will be left, because there are several bridges blown up there.

I hope this is justba psyop

Could be nothing but who knows, definitely weird things going on there, hope its a ruse but at this stage nothing would surprise me.

It is reported that in the evening there will be some official statements on Kherson.
Against the background of the removal of flags and undermining bridges on the right bank.
Meanwhile, intense fighting continues in the Snigirevka area.

Intel Slava Z

Werewolf wrote:

Broski wrote:
That looks like a map of territory Russia will be liberating in the near future, marked in red of course.

Kiev must be taken as it is a russian city and always was. No more ukrops on the internet that will talk about "Kievan Rus'" which this faggots ignore the "Rus'" part let alone have a slightest idea about history.
I recently made unpleasant contact with a Russian girl from Moldova and she believes the same garbage as the Ukrops have been intoxicated with. Kievan Rus' is Ukranians and Russians have generated later from them. The alternative history these people get brainwashed with is astounding.

Taking Kiev will also mean defacto a total defeat for Ukrops and the West, because everything that follows will be nothing but skirmishes, the true definition of denazification. Just simple and slow generational wipe out of Nazi mindset on battlefield and in the heads. They will see how the silent majority will speak up and they will be in disbelief.

Kiev needs to be taken, but keep on the Doritos party until the City is almost empty, then surround it and cut out all the influx of anything. It will take a long time until they run out of most things, however, with certain targets targeted inside Kiev you can speed up the process. Destroy Electric grid that it can't be repaired for half a year or longer. This will force them to use diesel wherever it is necessary to have electricity. Target Communication joints, which will make it for civilian population of the 21st century so unpleasant to sit around in the dark with no possibility to communicate. The youngsters will leave immediately just from lack of electricity and interwebz.

Without electricity most of the grid is just blacked-out. No fresh water, no food processing or distribution. The conditions will have half the city of now be wanting to leave immediately. Then target daily any VSU formations with Doritos and Iskanders at anything that is stored or moved by them.

Sooner or later it will be easier to take a ghost city.

We need to assume that 30-45% of the population won't leave anyways, so the question will be of tactics and outcome.

Lenin and Stalin did kill the Russian identity during the USSR and indirectly they are still doing it today.
Lenin did what he shouldn't have done and there is no going back. Many Russians in the area of ​​Ukroshitstan have become Ukroshitstans in the past 100 years and this is what FP, Arkhangelsk and some other Russians cannot understand. These are no longer Russian "brothers", but vermin that should be exterminated.

No, the Russians do not need Kiev. I am convinced that the Russians do not want Odessa or Nikolaev, except perhaps Kharkov, which is close to the Russian border. Moreover, I am convinced that this was not in the Russian plans. What you all forget is that it is inevitable that a good part of the population of those cities would decide to leave them, if the Russians already occupy and liberate those cities. Nobody needs a half-empty city. And a good part of the population in those cities would be worse in the future for Russia than the Russian liberals.
Do you really think that Russians need Odessa, where over 65% of the population declares themselves as Ukroshitstans ?
In Kharkov, someone, I think French, recorded a video of children greeting the AFU with the Nazi salute. Such a population should not infiltrate Russia and become part of Russian everyday life.
All Russia has to do is break, trample and destroy every Ukroshitstans ready to go with a rifle at Russia. After the conflict, it will be clear to them that they smoked the Russian sausage, lost a large part of the territory and population, as well as that they are and will be a Russian bitch and beyond the reach of the NATO pact.
It is better to set up military bases in Odessa after the conflict than to absorb the city within the territory of the Russian Federation.
All that Russia needs to do is not to allow NATO to come to those territories and that is what is being done and that is quite enough.