Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

Russia is not retreating from Kherson. They evacuted the population to make it easier to maintain their forces and have been reinforcing and creating defences for the last few months now. Kherson is a city that Russia considers a part of Russia. They would never abandon a Russian city. Also every single Ukrainian offensive against Kherson has failed completely.

flamming_python wrote:Gonna let the white noise continue to do its work

FP, listen to these anvils from the forum and run to Yakutia to breed yaks - while you still have time !
Everything is lost judging by their "well-intentioned" statements; Sevastopol, Simferopol, Kerch, Moscow, Piter, Rostov, Voronezh, Belgorod, Kursk and Pskov..

Boris Rozhin:

На Украине, несмотря на заявления Шойгу и Суровикина, продолжают заявлять, что не видят признаков отвода российских войск и продолжают настаивать на том, что ВС РФ разыгрывают некий "хитрый план" на Херсонском направлении, чтобы заманить ВСУ в Херсон.

I wonder if the russian offensive won't happen in Kiev. They deployed troops there, will stabilize the southern front and probably send more troops in Belarus.

They have send huge defensive tools in Donbas, Marioupol and even in Belgorod where Wagber built a huge defensive line and snow will help slow down any ukro offensive.

This tell me they will reduce manpower in Donbas and send everything in the north and push to destroy the political leadership in Kiev.

Not even going to bother with U.S. elections, you get like 95% of the votes in a few hours. But for some reason when the remaining 5% matters they have to drag the voting results for another fucking day so I am just going to go along with democrats winning the house and senate in which it hasnt mattered to me since I assumed Ukraine would still get funded.

Back to the war, looking at the weather it seems tuesday and the days after will provide enough frozen ground for either to advance. The G20 summit will be held in November 15 through the 16 in which temperatures seem to favor a offensive. https://weather.com/weather/tenday/...cf6af087a80df429e7ce442645cf1a27546703dbd551a So I wont be surprised if a huge offensive is launched probably on the 14th to get through kherson at the expense of many lives just for Zelensky to show off whats happening in Kherson and why they should continuing sending more military aid. Whatever the Russian General is planning with alot of given time of when the offensive will occur is just another waiting game of him either deciding to send a huge group as well, intensive MLRS shelling or a bombing campaign, etc. Remember they had alot of time of deciding when Ukraine's offensive might occur.

happy Archangelski took a break from this thread.

Jesus fukin' Christ, slow down...!!
At this tempo, my mouse will explode while updating the "foe list" not to see this garbage you are producing!
Line up, losers!

Not from me, dude on Twitter (AZ)

Kadyrov

Prigozhin

Werewolf wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Could it be a ruse? Tactical nuke? Ukrops advancing steadily across the front in Kherson.

Time will tell.

Yes, it will be a tactical nuke on it's own territory.
Nobody will expect that Master Mind move

What's up with those people who even think nukes will be used? All Ukraine has potential to be Russian territory and it's not like even with Western support, Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia. Still SMO, not GPW.

You are trying to talk to madmen's who take twitts for granted

So the hawks (Kadyrov, Prigozhin) are behind this decision. Which should tell us something.

The Ukros on the other hand are more afraid then ever from this news. They still think it´s a bait.
Russians: C´mon, we left the area, bring all your troops from Nikolaev and Odessa here to "take" Kherson back!

Remember who is in charge of this operation for the last weeks and what he did to Daesh in Syria (a lot of open terrain, just as around Kherson).
Add this knowledge to the massive attacks from Geran-2 and Lancet drones against AD systems and artillery in the last weeks. Big air campaign
coming?   Possible.

The supply story has more holes then swiss cheese. The Russian Army has hundreds of amphibious vehicles like the PTS-2/-3/-4 and ferry vehicles
like PMM-2 + a lot of ponton brigde parks. Add to this dozens of helicopters. With all that they could deliver thousands of tons daily to the other side
of the river.

There is talk about the shitty position north of the river and "who brought the troops into it". I guess the Army only moved across the river in the spring
because they were charging towards Nikolaev but had to stop half way do to orders from above. After that they took defensive positions to destroy a lot
of Nazi fighters without attacking cities (= civilian cassualties).

Looking at the map I think further attacks towards Nikolaev will start by bypassing the large body of water between Krivoy Rog and Zaporozhye on the eastern
side. Which means an attack on Zaporozyhe and then moving westwards.

They think it is a bait for a month.
Let the flowers fall

Edit : there is a movie today from Kiev, when someone id driving a moped - literally
And the lights are getting off in the buildings along the route.
No idea if he was trolling or not, but the effect is hilarious

Ukrainian operational headquarters "South" believes that the retreat of the RF Armed Forces from Kherson may be part of an information-psychological operation to mislead the Armed Forces of Ukraine - speaker of the Operational Command "South" Natalya Gumenyuk.

ALAMO wrote:Edit : there is a movie today from Kiev, when someone id driving a moped - literally
And the lights are getting off in the buildings along the route.
No idea if he was trolling or not, but the effect is hilarious

Saw it. Next move: all russian recon units will be equipped with mopeds. 

Hole wrote:

Well, you know, it does not matter anymore if you are advancing from the other side of a river after taking Zaporozhe, Dnepropetrovsk and Krivy Rog  

Edit : and if you are asking me, the whole story applies only to the area west of the Ingulets river, as that area was already flooded and is very exposed.

Wonder if Sullivan's offer to the Kremlin was "you keep the east bank and we keep the west bank". Makes an excellent defensive position.

franco wrote:Wonder if Sullivan's offer to the Kremlin was "you keep the east bank and we keep the west bank". Makes an excellent defensive position.

With the existing Kievan regime that is a null deal.
They will just use this time to arm up and inflict terror in the meantime.
No.
Kill them, disperse them, hunt them.
Old fashion that has worked.

franco wrote:Wonder if Sullivan's offer to the Kremlin was "you keep the east bank and we keep the west bank". Makes an excellent defensive position.

If putin accepts this "deal" , its because he really would love NATO bases in kharkov and chernigov

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_jOtVy3t7-Q

LOL .

Stealthflanker wrote:

franco wrote:

How does Crimea lose water supply. It is on the east side of the Dnieper as is the Crimea.

Well for starters, Nova Kakhova Dam  is there. Ukrainians may opt now to destroy the dam and without Russian forces holding from the otherside, it could be a one sided  battle.  if the dam is breached, not only flood that will occur but also the fact that water level will decrease. The canal relies on the water level to maintain its flow to Crimea.

This is the terrain feature of the Nova Kakhova Dam.



The water level of the Reservoir is kept higher there to allow the canal to be naturally gravity fed before artificially raised in Dzhankoi by pumps.  if the dam is destroyed or Ukrainian opt to lower the water level there, the canal could be starved out of water. Thus you have another Crimea water crisis.

Correct!

Will russia destroy the dnepr bridges now, since its impossible to take anything west of the dniepr now?

limb wrote:

franco wrote:Wonder if Sullivan's offer to the Kremlin was "you keep the east bank and we keep the west bank". Makes an excellent defensive position.

If putin accepts this "deal" , its because he really would love NATO bases in kharkov and chernigov

No they are on the east bank and would be now Russian

Hole wrote:So the hawks (Kadyrov, Prigozhin) are behind this decision. Which should tell us something.

The Ukros on the other hand are more afraid then ever from this news. They still think it´s a bait.
Russians: C´mon, we left the area, bring all your troops from Nikolaev and Odessa here to "take" Kherson back!

Remember who is in charge of this operation for the last weeks and what he did to Daesh in Syria (a lot of open terrain, just as around Kherson).
Add this knowledge to the massive attacks from Geran-2 and Lancet drones against AD systems and artillery in the last weeks. Big air campaign
coming?   Possible.

The supply story has more holes then swiss cheese. The Russian Army has hundreds of amphibious vehicles like the PTS-2/-3/-4 and ferry vehicles
like PMM-2 + a lot of ponton brigde parks. Add to this dozens of helicopters. With all that they could deliver thousands of tons daily to the other side
of the river.

There is talk about the shitty position north of the river and "who brought the troops into it". I guess the Army only moved across the river in the spring
because they were charging towards Nikolaev but had to stop half way do to orders from above. After that they took defensive positions to destroy a lot
of Nazi fighters without attacking cities (= civilian cassualties).

Looking at the map I think further attacks towards Nikolaev will start by bypassing the large body of water between Krivoy Rog and Zaporozhye on the eastern
side. Which means an attack on Zaporozyhe and then moving westwards.

True! The whole thing makes little sense and the unity in the leadership is a bit strange, since Kadyrov in particular has always been critical of retreats. At the moment, all circumstances favor Russia! The weather is on the defender's side, the evacuation of civilians left enough transport capacity for the military. The ratio of losses of the attackers and defenders was strongly in favor of Russia.

But one must not forget the proposal from the American side, which also fits perfectly into the picture in terms of timing. Basically, that would be treason, but there are many in Moscow and St. Petersburg who adore and love the West. People don't give a shit about those who fight for the fatherland on the front lines, they love Starbucks, Apple shit and all that other crap that comes out of the West...they enjoy the decadent life and send their children all to the West. They only love money and see their own countrymen as primitive barbarians. One must not forget that not only the West in general, but also Ukraine in particular has some sympathy in Russia...there were enough acts of sabotage.

With this "peace proposal" Russia would lose more than it gained and in a few years the very existence of the RF would be at stake. As long as money is being printed like crazy in the West, the psychopaths in the USA and EU will do everything they can to destabilize Russia and arm Ukraine to the teeth.

limb wrote:Will russia destroy the dnepr bridges now, since its impossible to take anything west of the dniepr now?

They could have done it right at the beginning of the war, but that would deprive Ukraine of the possibility of resupply and the chance to kill Russian soldiers. So NO! Kharkiv und Saporoschje continue to be well supplied by train and motorways.

But now I'm sure someone will tell me that this is just a ruse used by the Russian army to weaken Ukraine by leaving the bridges intact