Serberus wrote:Spin it however you wont, the bottom line is, Russia is not capable of holding territory for whatever reason and that is a genuine concern. This “withdrawal” may be a necessary tactical decision to preserve lives, but the only reason it is necessary is because logistics and tactics failed in the first place.
I guess the silver lining is, we now know that if Russia is incapable of defeating “mighty” Ukronazistan they sure as hell have no business taking on Nato , might as well take the “deal” bend over to the west and keep nukes on stand by just in case they get a dumb idea to invade after this clusterfuck because Russian military standing has taken a battering not seen since the 90’s and that will only further embolden it’s enemies to try more brazen things.
Now time to take a long break from this crap, the news, this forum, delete TG and go on a holiday.
The Russian army is capable of dealing immense damage to NATO and Ukraine
The Russian army can WIN any war and any battle in this country of Ukraine
This fiasco would have been over back in March
Do you know why an "Arm chair " general knew more about this than Putin?
Because Putin has no fucking clue how to conduct a military operation
The people that do know, were overruled , fired, silenced, and called "6th column"
Putin, Shoigu, and the rest of the bureaucrats from Matvienko to Siluanov invented this SMO
An SMO were you expend thousands of weapons on small targets scattered throughout a battlefield the size of Texas
Do you know what an exercise in futility means?
It means you perform an exhausting and meticulous task, to accomplish an objective which cannot be achieved
And that is what the SMO is, he tried to compel his opponents, to surrender to him, by inflicting casualties on the military, both manpower and materiel
The west, which has not suffered any consequences except for minor inflation, took care of material , and Ukraine, genetically Russians, would fight this war to the last man- everyone knew that from day Z
So he cannot force them to negotiate, he cannot compel them to his will, and he paid , thousands of Russian lives, damage to Russian infrastructure, and irreparable harm to the morale and image of the Armed Forces
What has he gained? Fuckall
Because there is nothing to gain, from day 1, America prepared a trap for this imbecile
He needed to go in, and scorch the fucking place, and walk away, and make it impossible for the west to hold, and leave it as a scorched barrier between the southern Russian border , and the rest of NATO, filling it with army bases, and a depopulated state
That was the best he could hope for
And ANYONE knew this, anyone with a brain knew it
Noone could have seriously thought that Russia would rehabilitate Ukraine and compel them to rejoin the Russian world- because the elites were replaced, the intelligentsia co-opted, and the pro Russians , murdered, cleansed, and silenced by force
Georgia is incomparable, isolated in the Caucasus, mountainous, and small in size and population
And this clown believed he could scare the Ukrainians to demilitarize and stand down
The day he pulled out of Kiev is the day he should have leveled everything, because Ukraine is not going to stop, nor can it after what has been done
But when you are inept, and you take the words of inepts at face value, you are bamboozled when something so painfully clear, becomes incomprehensible because you buy your own bullshit