Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

Serberus wrote:Spin it however you wont, the bottom line is, Russia is not capable of holding territory for whatever reason and that is a genuine concern...

caveat emptor wrote:

Serberus wrote:
Not hard to hold something that is not under attack.

Judging by the comments being made now by several Russian officials about willingness to negotiate, that agreement mentioned a day or so ago , or capitulation to be more precise, which included giving up Kherson and paying for restoration while keeping the meagre territories still in Russian hands, may not be so far fetched after all.

Anyway stay sane, till next time

It's interesting to see how this will impact morale of Russian army and society as well as its standing among allies.
 
Поготово ми морамо да се замислимо. Ако се овако тргује са руским земљама не желим ни да помислим како би ми прошли. Туђим курцем је лако глогиње млатити.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

It's all part of the plan,

Ukraine is going to run out of men any day now

They have no more tanks

They have no more manpower

It's just a propaganda win

They only retook Kiev, Kharkov,  Kherson, Sumy, Chernigov

Russia still has Pavlovka, Lisichansk, and mariupol



Anyway the west will collapse, anyway Russia will retake Nikolayev

It's a 6d chess move, fucking with their heads

Hahahahhhahahahahah

sundoesntrise wrote:
This is it. It's only gonna get worse from here. Lil Putin should be on his knees thanking the Lord everyday day of the week if the (((Anglos))) let him keep at least a sliver of the 'newly acquired territories' - because at the sight of so much weakness, confusion and incompetence they might as well go for the killshot.

PhSt wrote:

sundoesntrise wrote:
This is it. It's only gonna get worse from here. Lil Putin should be on his knees thanking the Lord everyday day of the week if the (((Anglos))) let him keep at least a sliver of the 'newly acquired territories' - because at the sight of so much weakness, confusion and incompetence they might as well go for the killshot.

You are like a rodent who comes out of hiding when an opportunity arises, of course, you will try HARD to make it look like Russia is losing this war, this is your objective for signing up in this forum in the first place, to amplify your stinking NATzO Propaganda

I say Go ahead and aim for the killshot, I'd love to see your hometown get blanketed by radiation

Hole wrote:So the hawks (Kadyrov, Prigozhin) are behind this decision. Which should tell us something.

The Ukros on the other hand are more afraid then ever from this news. They still think it´s a bait.
Russians: C´mon, we left the area, bring all your troops from Nikolaev and Odessa here to "take" Kherson back!

Remember who is in charge of this operation for the last weeks and what he did to Daesh in Syria (a lot of open terrain, just as around Kherson).
Add this knowledge to the massive attacks from Geran-2 and Lancet drones against AD systems and artillery in the last weeks. Big air campaign
coming?   Possible.

The supply story has more holes then swiss cheese. The Russian Army has hundreds of amphibious vehicles like the PTS-2/-3/-4 and ferry vehicles
like PMM-2 + a lot of ponton brigde parks. Add to this dozens of helicopters. With all that they could deliver thousands of tons daily to the other side
of the river.

There is talk about the shitty position north of the river and "who brought the troops into it". I guess the Army only moved across the river in the spring
because they were charging towards Nikolaev but had to stop half way do to orders from above. After that they took defensive positions to destroy a lot
of Nazi fighters without attacking cities (= civilian cassualties).

Looking at the map I think further attacks towards Nikolaev will start by bypassing the large body of water between Krivoy Rog and Zaporozhye on the eastern
side. Which means an attack on Zaporozyhe and then moving westwards.

Azi wrote:But one must not forget the proposal from the American side, which also fits perfectly into the picture in terms of timing. Basically, that would be treason, but there are many in Moscow and St. Petersburg who adore and love the West. People don't give a shit about those who fight for the fatherland on the front lines, they love Starbucks, Apple shit and all that other crap that comes out of the West...they enjoy the decadent life and send their children all to the West. They only love money and see their own countrymen as primitive barbarians. One must not forget that not only the West in general, but also Ukraine in particular has some sympathy in Russia...there were enough acts of sabotage.

With this "peace proposal" Russia would lose more than it gained and in a few years the very existence of the RF would be at stake. As long as money is being printed like crazy in the West, the psychopaths in the USA and EU will do everything they can to destabilize Russia and arm Ukraine to the teeth.

sundoesntrise wrote:As planned. Man was outed as a Soviet spy by Frank Capell in the 70s already - just another Martini sipping 5000 USD suit wearing scumbag playing both sides, a game he eagerly extended to the Chinese when that opportunity arose.

The receipts are out there, and the more informed people on this board (for as much as they haven't been chased away) obviously know. In fact you have to be a fucking retard not to see that,  but then again you fit that description. The Mithrokin Archive, Major Jordan's Diaries, all the defector literature, Diana West, Kay Griggs, Anthony C. Suttons work? Hello?

As for the faked optimism, at this point I am just here to harvest the sweet copes and salty tears. At a point in time it was cringe and now it's just moving beyond that stage to the point where you can only laugh about so much dimwitry, spin and cope.

Also please don't hold your breath waiting for the fabled Russian equivalent of Steiner storming in from the north.

This is it. It's only gonna get worse from here. Lil Putin should be on his knees thanking the Lord everyday day of the week if the (((Anglos))) let him keep at least a sliver of the 'newly acquired territories' - because at the sight of so much weakness, confusion and incompetence they might as well go for the killshot.

Let the cope run wild.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:A month will reveal the truth if this was some "trap" or a complete failure and inability on the side of the russians army and leadership to win. If you are pro russians you better hope this was a trap if not...well the implications of this failure would say a ton about Russian leadership and the armies ability.

One month let us see who is right

flamming_python wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:A month will reveal the truth if this was some "trap" or a complete failure and inability on the side of the russians army and leadership to win. If you are pro russians you better hope this was a trap if not...well the implications of this failure would say a ton about Russian leadership and the armies ability.

One month let us see who is right

Till November 15th, not a month

zorobabel wrote:I guess Putin cannot leave the country at the moment.

The G20 summit would have been a good time for Russia to prove business as usual, that things are under control, but I guess that isn't the case.

Embarrassing that Zelensky will be there, while Jokowi put his neck on the line to extend an invitation to Putin.

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:I guess Putin cannot leave the country at the moment.

The G20 summit would have been a good time for Russia to prove business as usual, that things are under control, but I guess that isn't the case.

Embarrassing that Zelensky will be there, while Jokowi put his neck on the line to extend an invitation to Putin.

Of course Zelensky will be there

He's an entirely predictable character, Zelensky

zorobabel wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:I guess Putin cannot leave the country at the moment.

The G20 summit would have been a good time for Russia to prove business as usual, that things are under control, but I guess that isn't the case.

Embarrassing that Zelensky will be there, while Jokowi put his neck on the line to extend an invitation to Putin.

Of course Zelensky will be there

He's an entirely predictable character, Zelensky

G20 is BRICS Lite. Jokowi stood up to the West to offer a direct invitation to Putin.

Putin should be there.

flamming_python wrote:
If Zelensky and Biden are invited then it's no 'BRICS Lite'. Although the gesture is appreciated.

Jokowi is free to apply Indonesia for membership to the BRICS though, I'm sure he'll be welcomed.

zorobabel wrote:...

Putin should be there.

zorobabel wrote:

I'm sorry, but I'm pissed about this.

lancelot wrote:Body count is kind of pointless as long as the other side keeps sending more bodies. US had to learn that lesson in Vietnam.

I hope that Russia makes a major offensive once the draftees show up in numbers and the ground has solidified. Otherwise we will just see Ukraine continue to do long range rocket attacks and artillery attacks along the entire front of the line of contact like they did to Donbass for eight frickin' years.

Once the cities are emptied out due to the lack of electricity with those kinds of numbers Russia will have more than enough bodies to do a proper full scale invasion I think.