Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

* 13:16 I report on the Kherson direction:

The enemy increased the intensity of the work of his DRGs, whose main method of action was "reconnaissance in force."
This time, having received a rebuff from our fighters, the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated and strengthened by increasing the number and weapons, and tried again.

At the same time, they went on the offensive against the positions of the Kostroma paratroopers from two directions, but were thrown back to their original lines.

Ours stand firmly in their positions.
https://t.me/intelslava/40790


* Fight for Pavlovka. Destruction of the American MCI MaxxPro.
https://t.me/intelslava/40793

The pages in twitter are reporting the Russian are retreating from Kherson?

TASS

Ukrop departures to eternal hunting grounds for November 9, 2022


* RF Armed Forces repelled attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson region
" In the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the forces of up to three company tactical groups, made unsuccessful attempts to attack the positions of Russian troops in the direction of the settlements of Kachkarovka, Pyatikhatki and Sadok, Kherson region," Konashenkov said. He added that after the Russian Armed Forces inflicted a fire defeat on the enemy , Ukrainian units, "having suffered significant losses, were dispersed and retreated."
Konashenkov specified that in total, up to 110 Ukrainian servicemen, 8 armored combat vehicles and 14 vehicles were destroyed in this direction by the Russian military.



* The Russian military hit two command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries
"Operational tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery hit two command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries in the areas of the settlements of Novovoskresenskoye in the Kherson region and Zagryzovo in the Kharkov region, as well as 59 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in the 181st area," he said.



* Russian Defense Ministry announced the suppression of attempts to penetrate 12 sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Nikolaev
This was announced on Wednesday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"In the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction <...> units of Russian troops detected and stopped attempts to penetrate 12 sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the rear defense areas in a day," he said.


* The Russian Defense Ministry announced the destruction of up to 100 military AFU and mercenaries in the Krasnoliman direction
This was announced to journalists on Wednesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
"In total, up to 100 Ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, one tank, two armored combat vehicles, a Grad MLRS combat vehicle and three pickup trucks were destroyed in the Krasnoliman direction in a day," Konashenkov said.



* The RF Armed Forces dispersed and pushed back the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to their original positions in the Yuzhno-Donetsk direction
"In the Yuzhnodonets direction, the enemy tried to counterattack for a day in order to slow down the offensive actions of the Russian troops. By inflicting fire damage and active actions of assault groups in the areas of the settlements of Novomikhailovka, Pavlovka and Vremevka of the Donetsk People's Republic, the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were dispersed and thrown back to their original positions," - Konashenkov said.
According to the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, over 80 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, six armored combat vehicles and three vehicles were destroyed during the hostilities.



* The Ministry of Defense announced the destruction of more than 60 Ukrainian military in the Kupyansk direction
"In the Kupyansk direction, the active actions of the Russian troops, artillery fire and air strikes repelled an attack by a reinforced motorized infantry battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of the Kuzemovka settlement of the Lugansk People's Republic," Konashenkov said.
According to the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, the manpower and equipment of the enemy have been eliminated. "More than 60 Ukrainian servicemen, two infantry fighting vehicles and five vehicles were destroyed," he added.



* "Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force near the village of Zaselye, Nkolaev region," Konashenkov said.


* The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the destruction of the ammunition depot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Dnieper region
"In the area of ​​the city of Dnepropetrovsk, an ammunition depot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with rockets for HIMARS and Olkha multiple launch rocket systems, as well as artillery ammunition, was destroyed," he said at a briefing on the course of a special military operation on Wednesday.

So 11 AM we get to find out the official line on Kherson. So help me if they take that deal.

Weather forecast for KharkOv from next Monday;

MONDAY; the highest temperature + 7, the lowest - 1
TUESDAY; the highest temperature + 2, the lowest - 4
WEDNESDAY; the highest temperature + 1, the lowest - 4

ucmvulcan wrote:So 11 AM we get to find out the official line on Kherson.  So help me if they take that deal.

I don't think Russia will retreat from Kherson. That would be a massive defeat and a reversal of one of the most important victories in the early part of the war.

Podlodka77 wrote:Weather forecast for KharkOv from next Monday;

MONDAY; the highest temperature + 7, the lowest - 1
TUESDAY; the highest temperature + 2, the lowest - 4
WEDNESDAY; the highest temperature + 1, the lowest - 4

Like I said. Mid November will be the first snow and from that point on being infantry becomes even more nightmarish than it already is.

I am expecting to see even more drone footages with moratar/grenades been thrown into tranches and open hatches for vehicles.

It becomes almost impossible in snow to camoflauge and stay camoflauged from the enemy.

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
What is with this humanitarian crisis death porn?
Going down the Arkhangelsk route
Best the Kiev/Kievan Rus elite finally get a clue and re-open negotiations. Because otherwise the Ukraine will be split down the middle by Russia and NATO, however many months or years of war later

No bro, it is not best.
Hardly even acceptable.
The Kievan junta lost the credibility long time ago.
And the Ukro society lost any credit for calm treatment by showing the level of zombification that has no equals since the WW2.
No deal signed with the Ukrs will be solid, and none can be trusted.
Take a calm look from a distance on this whole situation, and how it developed.

For 8 years, Russkie were just insisting for the implementation of a peace deal the beaten regime was forced to sign in 2014.
They didn't push for anything more than that, and to be honest, Kiev didn't have to loose much of that.
Sure, the Crimea was gone, but both the LDNR were to stay in the Ukrainian boarders with slightly more representative status.
Again, that claim was nothing new - the Westerners were demanding just the same while Party of Regions was winning the elections.
The difference was, that when the East was winning the elections - mob was put on the streets of Kiev, ze Wezt started its yapping, and the country was pushed on the edge of civil war each and any time. While when the West had - Easterners were just working as usual.
It was Putin's administration that favored the territorial integrity of the Ukrainian state, more than the junta itself.
A daily misery, deaths & destruction was a price Moscow was sadly ready to pay to keep the war away, and the conflict at low level.

Any type of peace agreement with the existing junta won't be worth a paper it would be written on. They must be defeated, displaced, arrested, jailed and executed in some cases. Chased in Canada or the US and liquidated, the same way as Chechenyan thugs were killed on the streets of Quatar, Vienna or Berlin for years. And are being chased till now.

Everything I'm saying is predicated on anyone left with a clue in Kiev getting together and finding a way to sideline or working around Mr. Clownworld who's currently in charge of the country. Because it's possible that if not for him, then someone capable of holding to agreements will appear

The Ukrainian elite took a huge gamble with their own people when they rejected Minsk, then the ultimatum, then the April negotiations - all in the hopes of the West crushing Russia.

ucmvulcan wrote:So 11 AM we get to find out the official line on Kherson.  So help me if they take that deal.

There is no 'deal' other than what someone wrote on Twitter

So, when should we expect a Russian offensive to start?

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:So, when should we expect a Russian offensive to start?

If things are not as I fear, and I really hope they are just mind f***ing the Ukes in Kherson, then the winter campaign probably begins sometime next week

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:So, when should we expect a Russian offensive to start?

They will start when they want. It's kinda hard to make prediction especially with all the politics now.

I myself along with probably those Pro-Ru twitter accounts out there want it asap.. mainly to put relieve on Kherson and other regions and if possible actually advance to retake or even gain new territory before they got fortified by Ukrainians. Landlocked should be the "minimum" requirement. One thing for sure is that it's kinda hard to believe they put so much materials etc in Belarus and Belgorod without intent to actually using them.

But then God knows what's inside the Russian general staff etc.

Podlodka77 wrote:Weather forecast for KharkOv from next Monday;

MONDAY; the highest temperature + 7, the lowest - 1
TUESDAY; the highest temperature + 2, the lowest - 4
WEDNESDAY; the highest temperature + 1, the lowest - 4

EU be like: "Sorry Kiev, we have some self-inflicted setbacks with energy ourselves"

flamming_python wrote:
The Ukrainian elite took a huge gamble with their own people when they rejected Minsk, then the ultimatum, then the April negotiations - all in the hopes of the West crushing Russia.

The Ukro regime you call "elite" gives a shit about any single of "own people", and that should be crystal clear for everyone for a while now.
Hey, those 9 years passed like a thunder!

We will have to wait for official news but if the Russians do pull back from Kherson, then they fucked up real hard. The make excuses like not properly prepared, etc, they had months to send forces and dig in. Ukraine had months to prepare a counter offensive. So the questions being asked are:

1)then why didn't russia prepare? Where was the troops, counter battery systems and airforce?
2) how come they weren't striking Ukrainian positions and gatherings? What about logistics supplies?
3) how come they didn't increase the rear in protection and more Bridgeheads?

That is if they did leave. And if they did then I'm not going to cheer on Russia until they take it back. I acknowledged and understood Kharkov region but this?

They would essentially have placed Crimea in danger yet again.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:So, when should we expect a Russian offensive to start?

No hurry... only have 50,000 of the 300,000 on line yet. The others will be getting there over the next several weeks, meanwhile allows the ground to harden.

sepheronx wrote:We will have to wait for official news but if the Russians do pull back from Kherson, then they fucked up real hard. The make excuses like not properly prepared, etc, they had months to send forces and dig in. Ukraine had months to prepare a counter offensive. So the questions being asked are:

1)then why didn't russia prepare? Where was the troops, counter battery systems and airforce?
2) how come they weren't striking Ukrainian positions and gatherings? What about logistics supplies?
3) how come they didn't increase the rear in protection and more Bridgeheads?

That is if they did leave. And if they did then I'm not going to cheer on Russia until they take it back.  I acknowledged and understood Kharkov region but this?

They would essentially have placed Crimea in danger yet again.

Amazing what some here have concluded from a few posts on Twatter

flamming_python wrote:

sepheronx wrote:We will have to wait for official news but if the Russians do pull back from Kherson, then they fucked up real hard. The make excuses like not properly prepared, etc, they had months to send forces and dig in. Ukraine had months to prepare a counter offensive. So the questions being asked are:

1)then why didn't russia prepare? Where was the troops, counter battery systems and airforce?
2) how come they weren't striking Ukrainian positions and gatherings? What about logistics supplies?
3) how come they didn't increase the rear in protection and more Bridgeheads?

That is if they did leave. And if they did then I'm not going to cheer on Russia until they take it back.  I acknowledged and understood Kharkov region but this?

They would essentially have placed Crimea in danger yet again.

Amazing what some here have concluded from a few posts on Twatter

Hence why I said I'll wait. I just wrote up a pre judgement to after the events if they are true.

But I do tend to believe war Gonzo since they have people on the ground in Ukraine.

flamming_python wrote:
Amazing what some here have concluded from a few posts on Twatter

Some people just easily affected by Genjutsu of social media.
Time heals everything, even naivety.

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
The Ukrainian elite took a huge gamble with their own people when they rejected Minsk, then the ultimatum, then the April negotiations - all in the hopes of the West crushing Russia.

The Ukro regime you call "elite" gives a shit about any single of "own people", and that should be crystal clear for everyone for a while now.
Hey, those 9 years passed like a thunder!

Most of the Kiev oligarchs backed that Maidan crap and all these nationalists from Galicia bussed in and used all their media resources, their own money, connections to facilitate Yanukovich's overthrow.

So yes elite, their bourgeois, who control the political system, talking heads, YouTube channels and whatever else. Their political elite as well, those same Rada members who were for Yanukovich before 2014 but then switched sides

Time for all of them to have a think.
Because the West is losing interest in the war, steadily. So what do they count on? Years more of warfare?
Or will somebody step up that is ready to publicly declare the need to hold talks without preconditions and then implement the provisions of whatever deal is signed?

This talk will bring perfectly nothing my friend other than pushing the problems forward.
8 fuckin' years, Moscow was dancing on a rope to avoid the war.
While the Kievan regime was arming itself up to the teeth in order to unleash the war as soon as they will can.
Wit help of the entire ze Wezt.
Those bastards were so sure about tho utcome, that the clown in charge really was yapping about getting nukes.
On a bloody security conference!!!!

ALAMO wrote:This talk will bring perfectly nothing my friend other than pushing the problems forward.
8 fuckin' years, Moscow was dancing on a rope to avoid the war.
While the Kievan regime was arming itself up to the teeth in order to unleash the war as soon as they will can.
Wit help of the entire ze Wezt.
Those bastards were so sure about tho utcome, that the clown in charge really was yapping about getting nukes.
On a bloody security conference!!!!

Yup, exactly

They were completely convinced that Washington will crush Russia and what's left of it will join Ukraine, for all I know

But now they have to take account of the reality of the situation and what are the most likely outcomes. Based on that, they can make a more sane choice this time.

Well, I was wrong. Shoigu just announced withdrawal from the west bank of the Dnieper.

Speechless...

That is very true, but the question is will Moscow be naive enough to put anything in this basket?
I wouldn't.
They must be crashed, jailed, killed and displaced.
With the headhunters unleashed to chase them.

The same way the Soviets crushed the Banderite worms insurgency - by liquidating the masterminds. No matter if they were in Canada or Germany.
The same way Russia solved the Chechenyan issue - by killing the perpetrators of terrorist acts and field commanders. In Qatar, Austria, Germany or the UK.

And I am not trying to pose a bloodthirsty sofa strategist, but remember how things were dealt with back then. Successful.