Russian special military operation in Ukraine #31

limb wrote:Waiting for the residents here to claim leaving Kherson is a genius and correct tlstrategy and totally not a clusterfuck of the nth degree. Pieces of couldn't even supply a bank of a river.  Say goodbye to water, crimea. Gestures of goodwill are more important.

zorobabel wrote:Well, I was wrong. Shoigu just announced withdrawal from the west bank of the Dnieper.

Speechless...

flamming_python wrote:Aaaaand here come the doomers

Stealthflanker wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Well, I was wrong. Shoigu just announced withdrawal from the west bank of the Dnieper.

Speechless...

Put link.

flamming_python wrote:Aaaaand here come the doomers

zorobabel wrote:

limb wrote:Waiting for the residents here to claim leaving Kherson is a genius and correct tlstrategy and totally not a clusterfuck of the nth degree. Pieces of couldn't even supply a bank of a river.  Say goodbye to water, crimea. Gestures of goodwill are more important.

This was not a gesture of goodwill. Not part of any deal. Just a slow but steady military defeat.

flamming_python wrote:Aaaaand here come the doomers

flamming_python wrote:Where is this great defeat?

sundoesntrise wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Aaaaand here come the doomers

Poor try to deflect.

Any words of wisdom on the recent announcement?

Specifically asking you, as you've evolved into the main propagandists on this board - basically blowing non stop smoke into people's eyes and leading the online witchhunts on the dissidents that dare to question the Kremlin's effort and strategy.

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:
This was not a gesture of goodwill. Not part of any deal. Just a slow but steady military defeat.

Where is this great defeat?

All those defenses, ordnance Russia has deployed there, parity of manpower, air superiority

Yesterday when the Ukrainian light infantry attempted to advance, they were repelled with heavy losses

Therefore any announcements or movements should be treated as manuever warfare, nothing more.

I'm frankly surprised that the Ukrainians advanced on Kherson at all. They themselves realized the Russians were setting a trap. But I guess the Russian pronouncements of 'Kherson deciding the war' and the mid-terms made the prospect too enticing to pass up.

Azi wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Where is this great defeat?

Losing territory is a DEFEAT!

zorobabel wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:
This was not a gesture of goodwill. Not part of any deal. Just a slow but steady military defeat.

Where is this great defeat?

All those defenses, ordnance Russia has deployed there, parity of manpower, air superiority

Yesterday when the Ukrainian light infantry attempted to advance, they were repelled with heavy losses

Therefore any announcements or movements should be treated as manuever warfare, nothing more.

I'm frankly surprised that the Ukrainians advanced on Kherson at all. They themselves realized the Russians were setting a trap. But I guess the Russian pronouncements of 'Kherson deciding the war' and the mid-terms made the prospect too enticing to pass up.

They announced they were unable to supply the west bank. The defeat was not on the battlefield, but a slow-moving effort to squeeze supply lines. The destruction of the bridge, rocket attacks on the barges and the pontoon bridge that was never completed.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:So, when should we expect a Russian offensive to start?

ALAMO wrote:For instance, something that matters and is interesting, the full record of Surovikins reporting.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/69796

The most important part is at the end, let me make a rough translation.
Emergency water drop made on the Kachovka dam already made some wide submerges in the area, which makes resupply and reinforcement serious issues. The dam is still intensively shelled, the possibility of breaking it must be taken into account - some locks were already destroyed. The decision of making the line of defense at the eastern river bank was accepted by the MOD and executed.

This tells me that the winter offensive will come from the North. Very Happy

zorobabel wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

zorobabel wrote:
This was not a gesture of goodwill. Not part of any deal. Just a slow but steady military defeat.

Where is this great defeat?

All those defenses, ordnance Russia has deployed there, parity of manpower, air superiority

Yesterday when the Ukrainian light infantry attempted to advance, they were repelled with heavy losses

Therefore any announcements or movements should be treated as manuever warfare, nothing more.

I'm frankly surprised that the Ukrainians advanced on Kherson at all. They themselves realized the Russians were setting a trap. But I guess the Russian pronouncements of 'Kherson deciding the war' and the mid-terms made the prospect too enticing to pass up.

They announced they were unable to supply the west bank. The defeat was not on the battlefield, but a slow-moving effort to squeeze supply lines. The destruction of the bridge, rocket attacks on the barges and the pontoon bridge that was never completed.