Arkanghelsk wrote:exactly like Ukraine, There is no other technical way to advance without repeating this process - the Ukrainians can defend and we have seen that
Yes there is. Rampage through the country-side, destroy the enemy armies in the field, encourage them to come at your prepared positions when possible, inflict attrition damage with remote strikes, put enemy transportation and logistical networks out of order, and preserve your own men
mariupol was a special case, and specifically azovstal was the tough place
And even Mariupol outside of azovstal was not subject to Grozny style strikes, guys were driving tanks into well placed atgm ambushes
Which is why Grozny worked, chechens setup ambushes that never took place because artillery and missile forces levelled them before they saw a russian tank
Sure but you'll still take a lot of casualties
As did our troops and the DNR in Mariupol. The Azovstal fortress was surrounded and didn't pose much of a threat. It was the assault of the rest of the city that took many lives. The city was turned into a fortress and you can bet that any other Ukrainian city you care to name won't be any different.
Now if you're prepared to see such operations against every Ukrainian city, many 3-4x the size of Mariupol, then I expect you'll be volunteering for service shortly, no?
The way they have fought this war is like first chechen war, except not as badly organized
It's inevitable when the country wasn't knocked out of the war and isolated or had part of its elite split off at the outset
Instead it consolidated and has a stream of unlimited economic, military, etc... support from its neighbors.
So you're going to have to grind them down the good old fashioned way; militarily, economically, morally, until they capitulate.
And don't cite the German blitzkrieg of France or Poland as a way of how to win wars. The Nazis had far more supporters and partners across Europe than Russia does at present.
you can precisely target the buildings in which there is resistance, and avoid random bombings, yes there will be collateral damage, its war
Of course there will be but that's hardly what you were saying a post ago.
You were talking about leveling entire cities remotely.
Why not just nuke them? That will win the war even faster no?
theyre already abandoning Russia lol, or on the brink of jumping ship from how badly this was handled
Feel free to jump ship and leave the country. It's your life Please don't question the efforts of people who're doing something useful though. Thanks.
yet you were giving money to an ukro girl at outset no? And you complain of Fighterbomber, Rybar, and such channels donating money to guys?
With you people as allies who needs enemies,
And of course it is you and the other hybrid canadian ukrops on here advocating for protecting the "brotherly people" who are "one nation" with Russia, while getting Russians killed, hmmmm who is the ukrop... i wonder it is people like you, like Matviyenko, who continue to sabotage Russia with your inane suggestions and pseudo military concepts like "SMO" who dream of negotiating with Kiev and being able to walk from this without having to make the real decision
It's a pity so many ukro scum are in charge of this SMO- and I hope rogov doesn't go the way of stremousov , it would be a terrible coincidence
I wasn't giving money, I was never asked for such - but BTW when I say ukrop, I don't strictly mean the nationality. There are many normal Ukrainians. By Ukrop I mean someone who insists on shooting himself and his country in the foot and when the results don't pan out as expected they embrace outright Nazism. The Ukraine is full of such people and that's why their country has had the trajectory that it had from 1991 to now. But we have people like that in Russia too.
Bud it's people like you in the first place, who were insisting at the outset that there was somebody in the Ukraine waiting for us, somebody to 'liberate', when in fact anyone with a brain could have told you that the Ukraine has been zombieland for years now.
Your expectations were frustrated and now you call to commit widespread atrocities, bombing cities indiscriminately, as the new plan that is supposed to win the war.
Can we just skip your suggestions and defer to Surovikin's plan and others with more common sense? Please?
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