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Thing is how many combat personnel will russia field such a move, this isn't like the start Ukraine is far more prepared and again can easily deploy more forces to tie up the russians, the question becomes can Russia sustain two fronts well three their forces would be forced to defend from the left and right if they tried to move in from Belarus, I don't see this being the play just way to costly
The russians haven't done the pre-work steps yet if they intended this maneuver.
I doubt that. The Ukrainians had far more combat-ready units available at the start of the war than now, 9 months in. Even taking into account mobilization waves, the new batch of NATO-trained Ukrainian soldiers and so on. The Ukrainians quickly levied a large amount of teroborona forces, armed civilians essentially, but a large number of them, and put them to work harrassing supply lines. How many takers would there be for that role now though? Especially as no-one has even published a count of teroborona casualties, officially or unofficially.
At the start of the war the Ukrainians had a bunch of brigades in Western Ukraine. A bunch in Kiev, and around Poltava, down in Odessa, and of course the huge grouping in the Donbass. Now many of them have become depleted over reinforcing the Donbass front more than anything. The Odessa-based units took heavy casualties around Kherson.
The Ukraine also has a lot less ammo and artillery available than at the start of the war. Less tanks and armoured vehicles by a big margin. Again, even taking into account NATO supplies.
It would be an interesting strategy if tried. But it would have to rely on the Russians quickly establishing that new line, and then digging in with air defenses, trench lines, plenty of artillery support and annexing some airbases around that vicinity as well for their own use.
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"Russia fired 72 missiles at Ukraine in an hour" - Minister of Energy of Ukraine Galushchenko.
Railway sections have been de-energized in Kharkiv, Kirovograd, Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk regions.
Emergency blackouts in Odessa, Zaporozhye,Kiev, Zhytomyr, Cherkasy and Poltava regions.
Interruptions in heating and water supply in Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Kiev.
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Russia fired 72 missiles at Ukraine
Power facilities in the east and south of the country have been damaged, - Minister of Energy of Ukraine Galushchenko.
There were 15 missile strikes in the Zaporozhye region, - the head of admin Starukh.
in all districts of Kiev, there are interruptions in water supply due to damage to the energy infrastructure. Residents are asked to prepare a supply of drinking and industrial water, — Klitschko
An energy object has been hit in Krivoy Rog.
- Explosion in Vinnitsa. Kharkov is completely de-energized after arrival at transformer stations.
- Poltava region without light - local authorities report.
- Reports of strikes at Ternopil
- 12 explosions at Zaporozhye
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A third wave of missiles is incoming.
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What the hell is this? It's shaped like a Kh-35, but appears to fly extremely slowly in the video (unless the vid is slowed down).
It doesn't seem to be slow mo if you ask me, take a look at lens focusing speed.
Maaaaaybeeee it is the first reported usage of Ch-36?
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Russia is out of missiles. Putin is getting ready for a defeat. Zaluzhny is preparing an ultimatum.
I would love to have some stuff they are taking there. I would take not half, but a quarter of the dose they are using, ans still would be pinky&funny!
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Ukraine says 80-90% were downed.
Ukraine says important infrastructural objects in 10+ cities were struck multiple times each.
Math!
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By the way, I have just looked on a map, and something cleared out for me ...
The potentially evolving situation can bring us to the moment when Russian new territories would border the Hungarians consider their own ...
And a follow up to this, is an open land corridor from Russia via Black Sea coast, reaching Transnistria, surrounding de facto Moldova.
An end effect would be a connection of Russian friendly Hungary, and via Hungary - finally - Serbia.
If you ask me, those plans are not too far to reach, if played consequently and long term ...
That would REALLY reshape the security status in Europe, creating a serious competition to the EU as it is becoming ...
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New regions of Russia: 694 apartment buildings have already been restored
In the city of Krasny Luch of the LPR, 76 apartment buildings are being repaired in parallel, the Luganmedia Telegram channel writes .
Under the coordination of the Ministry of Construction of Russia, large-scale work continues to restore the housing stock in the new regions that have become part of the Russian Federation.
To date, 694 apartment buildings have been restored in the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
In Krasny Luch, work is underway to repair multi-apartment residential buildings. Builders from the Moscow region are laying soft roofs on 76 buildings. 400 specialists work at the facilities, 17 units of special equipment are involved.
Works are carried out simultaneously on the roofs and in the houses. Builders are installing new windows in the apartments of residents and entrances.
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With the help of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, we continue to restore Volnovakha, the Solntsev Telegram channel writes about the restoration .
The City School of Arts and the Department of Transfusiology are being renovated. We are putting the kindergarten in order in the village of Blizhnee. While finishing work is being carried out inside, preparations are underway for the installation of a new fence outside.
Volnovakha was seriously damaged by shelling, but we will definitely bring the city back to life. Moreover, we have support at the federal level and full mutual understanding with the sponsoring regions.
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The persistence of Donbass against the aggression of Kyiv. Ukraine destroys - Donetsk restores, writes the Telegram channel Donbass decides .
In frontline areas, it often happens that repeated shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine leads to new destruction of houses, schools, and kindergartens that have already been repaired.
“Literally the day before yesterday, glass was brought in, look - everything has already been glazed. People work perfect, so fast! It can be seen that they are specialists,” says local resident Alexander.
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LUGANSKGAZ specialists have restored another section of the Lugansk-Lysichansk-Rubezhnoye main gas pipeline, damaged by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Luganmedia Telegram channel writes .
Two air crossings with a total length of about 20 meters were completely replaced by employees. Repair work was carried out on-line, in any weather, and sometimes continued until late in the evening.
“At the moment, the system is being filled, which will allow us to identify the following damaged areas. Work to eliminate them will begin after the territory is surveyed by special services for the presence of unexploded ordnance," the department of main gas pipelines of the State Unitary Enterprise "LUGANSKGAZ" noted.
Full restoration of the gas pipeline will allow resuming the supply of natural gas to residents of the cities of Zolote and Gorskoye.
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As part of the signed agreement between the city of Kirovsk and the Irkutsk region, the repair of the building of school No. 1 continues, writes the Telegram channel of the Administration of the city of Kirovsk .
“The forces of the Irkutsk region continue work on the repair of secondary school No. 1 in Kirovsk. Completed work to strengthen the structure of the building. Preparations are underway for painting. The wall plastering works in the building are almost completed. New modern lighting, fire alarms have been installed, laminate flooring has been partially completed, the third floor is being prepared for painting,” said Viktoria Sergeeva, head of the Kirovsk city administration.
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As part of the Cooperation Agreement with the Republic of Komi, the city is undergoing a large-scale construction of a new ambulance station. On December 13, equipment for a new ambulance station was delivered to the city of Rovenki, Luganmedia Telegram channel writes .
“Many thanks to the Republic of Komi for such significant assistance. A new, modular ambulance building is being built in our city, which will be equipped with modern equipment. Today we received a piece of equipment for a new substation. After the completion of construction work and the grand opening of a new ambulance, our employees will be able to work according to new, modern standards, which will of course affect the efficiency of first aid,” says Alexandra Belokon, head of the legal support department of the LPR Center for Emergency Medical Care and Disaster Medicine. .
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89 ambulances were handed over to the Zaporozhye region, writes ZaTV Telegram channel. News of the Zaporozhye region .
Nearly a hundred new ambulances arrived at hospitals in the Zaporozhye region. This is very timely, because more than 80% of the NSR fleet needs to be replaced. Most of the vehicles have been in service for more than five years, and they need to be replaced, since patients cannot be transported in old vehicles.
New ambulances meet all modern requirements and will serve the benefit of the population of the region. Patients in them will be transported faster, and the equipment will provide all the necessary measures to save lives.
“These cars serve the population of the Zaporozhye region with the number of 830 thousand people. These cars are quite enough, given that the total fleet includes 169 cars,” Yury Reznichenko, head physician of the Melitopol Regional Center for Emergency Medical Aid and Disaster Medicine, told ZaMedia.
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According to what is happening in the territories annexed to Russia, one can judge who is the invader and who came to restore what was destroyed by Ukraine.
So, the Leningrad region donated four more trams to Yenakiyevo, writes the Telegram channel All about the DPR .
Electric transport has already been installed on the line and will soon begin to run on city routes.
“On behalf of all the residents of Enakievo, I express my gratitude to the Leningrad Region, represented by the Governor of the Leningrad Region Alexander Drozdenko, for the assistance provided to us,” Roman Khramenkov, mayor of Enakievo, wrote on his Telegram channel.
The first batch of trams from the region-chief arrived in the city at the end of August, in September they were already on the line. Six tram cars were allocated from the St. Petersburg reserve.
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- Moscow has not forgotten about New Year's gifts for the children of Donbass. Children of Donbass will receive 30,000 gifts from Moscow, the POLITE LUGANSK Telegram channel writes. ⠀
Gifts are collected as part of the Moscow Helps campaign.
- A driver from Omsk, Sergey Zhevlakov, brought New Year's gifts to Stakhanov, according to the telegram channel StakhanoV. City administration .
“Today, Stakhanov received a humanitarian cargo from Omsk, and we are doubly pleased that by the New Year we have not forgotten about the children who constantly suffer from shelling and congratulated them on the upcoming New Year.”
- They help residents in the Kherson region. Russian servicemen delivered humanitarian aid, writes the Main Telegram channel in Genichesk .
“In two armored vehicles, we delivered a fairly large amount of medicines and equipment for medical care,” said a member of the humanitarian mission.
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Kherson, Kharkov, Kremenchug, Kirovograd and Cherkasy are completely de-energized.
In Kharkiv, Kirovohrad, Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk regions, railway sections are de-energized.
Emergency blackouts in Odessa, Zaporozhye, Kyiv, Zhytomyr, Cherkasy and Poltava regions.
Interruptions in heating and water supply in Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Kyiv
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Again, you're ranting about shit I never said, literally talking out of your ass. I get, dead civilians, especially preventable ones, represent just a sidenote to you, but not all of us are so blasé about it.
Russia is fighting a war against brutal ruthless evil people who find dead civilians to be a useful tool to blame Russia as evil for their deaths. These brutal evil people are not new to this game they have been playing it on and off for centuries and at the moment they are using Ukrainians the same way the Nazis used them during WWII.
You say these civilian deaths are preventable... well Russia sending thousands of extra troops to stand and fight would likely kill just as many civilians in the crossfire plus quite a few Russians soldiers on top of that. Would they kill more Orcs... probably, but why rush it and lose more civilians and Russian soldiers (which now includes the new Russian soldiers too) to hold some territory they could give up and take back later.
They evacuated plenty of civilians, but blaming Russia for the people Kievs forces with full western support murder, well that is just stupid.
I bet it takes a real mastermind to hold a referendum where majority vote for Russia, then mere a couple of weeks later, organize a hasty retreat, leaving behind hundreds if not thousands of civilians to fend for themselves, top marks for that, I bow down to these geniuses.
Russia didn't hold the referendums, and they evacuated hundreds of thousands of people and took many with them as they withdrew.
There were claims about mass murders of Russian collaborators, but we have not actually heard that much about those crimes... sounds a bit odd don't you think?
Perhaps the Orcs are running out of secret police that enjoyed performing that task in occupied areas?
I bet you also think Donetsk being shelled daily for the last 9 months because the Russians are unwilling or unable to dislodge the Nazis from the city is some 9D chess move we should all be in awe off. It is the single biggest failure in this conflict so far (feel free to quote that one to your heart's desire and cry 5th column all you want).
The Donetsk being shelled daily is because the west has supplied Kiev with artillery and ammo and does not give a shit what they do with it... did you tell your government or the leadership of the EU or the US or HATO that you do not approve?
Might be that he's salty about the reception towards Israelis at the World Cup
The Soccer world cup... bringing countries together... except Russia and Belarus because the world hates them....
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In Russia, tests of the Borshchevik mobile complex designed to detect Starlink terminals are being completed.
It was developed by the private company "Sestroretsky Arms Factory".
Considering Starlink is clearly a prototype for a military system they can drop behind enemy lines to "freedom fighters" around the world, it is important that Russia learns to deal with them.
150k deads is even a conservative number
The core problem for the Ukraine is that the west and Kiev don't care...
To the extent where their army was not made larger and the invasion even bigger, I think, it was to keep NATO and Ukraine second guessing their intent until the last minute.
It is a tribute to their military that they could do this with such a small force... I honestly don't think more troops would have done a lot better, because their objectives are being achieved, what they need to do is get better with drones and coordination and you can't really do that in peace time with no real enemy testing you for weaknesses and probing your defences.
I do not think Russia was necessarily planning for a short war but it was tasked as a limited war I think. The objective was not the annexation of Ukraine lock stock and barrel for example. But it may end up as that in the long run. I agree with John Mearsheimer that Russia will basically turn Ukraine into ruins in order to make them into an example of what will happen if you follow the US's imperialist ambitions and harm Russian interests in their periphery.
It has always been up to the Ukrainian people... they had a foreign funded coup in 2014, but if they didn't like what was happening they could have done something about it, but they didn't.
This conflict will last as long as the Ukrainians continue to fight and to die pointlessly.
The conflict never would have even started if Poroshenko or Zelensky had honoured the Minsk agreements, instead they thought they could win a war with Russia...
Lets see how wrong they were.
Now that NATO personnel are proven to operate in the ukraine, russia should cause an armed insurrection in montenegro and sign formal military alliances with north korea, cuba and venezuela, as well as arming communist guerillas with NLAWs and shmels in latin america.
I agree to a point but rather than supporting communist guerillas, really what they should be supporting is the anti colonial forces in central and south America, which would equate to opposing those countries with US imposed or supported governments.
Why does Russia launch cruise missile in daytime?
They seem to get through day and night.
All of these cruise missiles are guided by satnav so time of day shouldn't matter.
I think he is talking about damage assessment to decide if the target is destroyed or if it needs to be hit again.
Some versions of the Kh-59 use optical guidance with a datalink pod so the crew in the launch aircraft can select the target in real time as the missile approaches the target area.
Ukraine says 72 missiles were launched so far.
Ukraine says 80-90% were downed.
Ukraine says important infrastructural objects in 10+ cities were struck multiple times each.
Math!
Yeah, there are three types of people on planet Earth.... those who are good with Maths and those who are not.
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They can "don't care" only as long as they have a replacement.
And that is the point where they are getting short ...
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I think that he is wrong in that Russia has been preparing for this war since at least 2014 if not 2007. They vastly increased the amount of professional front line troops and equipment from the skeleton army they had in the early 2000s. Most of their aircraft were also replaced with new ones. To the extent where their army was not made larger and the invasion even bigger, I think, it was to keep NATO and Ukraine second guessing their intent until the last minute.
I do not think Russia was necessarily planning for a short war but it was tasked as a limited war I think. The objective was not the annexation of Ukraine lock stock and barrel for example. But it may end up as that in the long run. I agree with John Mearsheimer that Russia will basically turn Ukraine into ruins in order to make them into an example of what will happen if you follow the US's imperialist ambitions and harm Russian interests in their periphery.
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Russia has been preparing for war ever since NATO bombed Belgrade. For this, he had to rebuild his industrial military complex that was demolished by Yeltsin and the Chicago Boys in the 90s, which took several years in which the country was also ruined.
The war IN Ukraine is just one episode in the war against NATO, in the same way that the war of the USSR against the fascist regime in Finland was the prelude to the War against Nazi Germany, that is to say a necessary movement to put an end to a enemy threatening on one of the flanks
Russia's goal is not to finish off the Ukraine but to finish off NATO, and for that it is better to fight in the Ukraine than to fight in Kaliningrad, in the same way that Alexander I fought Napoleon by letting him advance with little opposition and retreating to Moscow which lengthened. their lines
Any war against Russia is a war of attrition, any thought of "blitzkrieg" is mental blindness caused by Western propaganda.
In any case, if Ukraine ends up being part of Russia or a country associated with Russia as Belarus is now, it will be a question that will be decided after the war and after the country will be de-Nazified and that includes the oligarchy and all the collaborators. of the nazi regime
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The Russians so far have committed large number of troops to Ukrs , and not destroyed the Bridges . This means we are far from using nukes , and the yanks know it . Just an excuse for poor performing Ukrs troops .
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Interesting attempted use of smoke to hide in.
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This way you protect them from optically guided weapons and satellites can't find their precise location.
But it was a much bigger screen than this pathetic attempt.
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