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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:50 pm

    In Soledar they are fighting for the city hall.

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    Post  limb Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:50 pm

    Wasnt hole the one claiming maryinka was liberated when it clearly wasnt, and its center is still under ukrainian control?

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    Post  Hinex1988 Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:14 pm

    ⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (9 January 2023)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

    💥 In Kupyansk direction, Russian forces launched strikes at the concentration areas of the manpower and hardware of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Sinkovka, Kislovka, Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People's Republic).

    ◽ Moreover, 1 sabotage and reconnaissance group of the enemy has been eliminated near Dvurechnaya (Kharkov region).

    ◽ The AFU have suffered irretrievable losses of over 50 Ukrainian personnel, 2  infantry fighting vehicles, and 3 motor vehicles.

    💥 In Krasniy Liman direction, attacks launched by aviation and artillery have resulted in the neutralisation of the enemy units near Stelmakhovka, Nevskoye (Lugansk People's Republic), Serebryanka, Grigorovka (Donetsk People's Republic), and Lozovaya (Kharkov region).

    ◽ Over 60 Ukrainian personnel, 3 armoured fighting vehicles, and 3 pickups have been eliminated.

    💥 In Donetsk direction, Russian forces continue their offensive.

    ◽ Complex fire strikes are launched at AFU units deployed along all the line of contact.

    ◽ The enemy has lost over 80 Ukrainian personnel, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, 1 armoured personnel carrier, and 4 motor vehicles.

    💥 In South Donetsk direction, Russian units launched fire strikes at the concentration areas of manpower and hardware near Novomikhaylovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◽ Moreover, 2 AFU sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been eliminated to the north of Pavlovka and Shevchenko (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◽ Over 40 Ukrainian personnel, 2 armoured fighting vehicles, and 3 pickups have been eliminated.

    💥 Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery have neutralised 89 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware at 126 areas.

    ◽ 3 AFU ordnance depots have been destroyed near Novomikhaylovka (Donetsk People's Republic), and Lozovaya (Kharkov region).

    💥 Within the counterbattery warfare, 2 U.S.-manufactured AN/TPQ-50 radars have been destroyed near Verkhnekamenskoye and Shevchenko (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◽ 1 U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery system has been destroyed near Ivanovka (Lugansk People's Republic) at its firing position.

    ◽ 2 Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery systems, 2 Ukrainian Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers, and 1 D-30 howitzer have been destroyed near Zvanovka, Serebryanka (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as near Novodanilovka and Stepnoye (Zaporozhye region) at their firing positions.

    ✈💥 Fighter Aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down Su-25 and MiG-29 airplanes of Ukrainian Air Force near Rovnoye and Grodovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◽ 1 Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter has been shot down near Verolyubovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    💥 Air defence facilities have destroyed 8 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Chervonopopovka, Golikovo, Poltava (Lugansk People's Republic), as well as near Velikiy Vyselok (Kharkov region).

    ◽ Moreover, 10 rocket-propelled projectiles launched by HIMARS and Uragan multiple-launch rocket systems have been intercepted near Zugres, Dokuchayevsk (Donetsk People's Republic), and Peremozhnoye (Zaporozhye region).

    📊 In total, 367 airplanes and 200 helicopters, 2,856 unmanned aerial vehicles, 400 air defence missile systems, 7,460 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 972 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,793 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,978 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:20 pm

    "made a distinction between HIMARS, M270, MARS II or whatever."

    Except they have...in every single of their little updates posts "We have intercepted HIMARS missiles" or "We have Destroyed HIMARS Launchers"...so that's a flat out lie...that is literally proven wrong by the Russian MOD.

    And you can doubt all you want, by that respect where are the Bradleys n Ukraine, where are the Marauders etc.

    We aren't talking about what Ukraine is saying, Russia made the claim they destroyed well over 25 HIMARS by their official posts, So what Ukraine said about those drones means jack shit. Very poor deflection attempt

    You're just making stuff up at this point, the last 18 aren't there yet period.

    Well it could be like Soviet soldiers claiming every destroyed tank is a Tiger in the later stages of WW2.

    Simply because this tank worked up a renown and was widely publicized. Soldiers knew roughly what it looked like, but not exactly; so anything that looked sufficiently fearsome was frequently mistaken for one; whether a Tiger or a Panther or even Pz IVs with add-on armour

    And this mis-identification worked its way into many annotated photographs and military records

    Russia claims X amount of HIMARS destroyed, but is it keeping a separate count of Smershes, and M270s, and whatever other long-range MLRS systems?

    Naturally there is some inflation of the figures as well. It won't always be possible to confirm kills, so they might just be assuming them


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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:20 pm

    Limb, there is no way knowing who these dead belong to. Ukrainians are not always wearing armbands. Wagner too. Both sides love MTP and commercial camo.

    Also, it looks like their weapons were collected.

    Safe not to assume nor celebrate this picture that is from December. Otherwise it’s easy to become NAFO. It’s just a drop in an ocean of dead in that theatre anyway, no matter what side. People die on all sides, but job needs to be done. All it matters who will be left standing And who will flee.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:35 pm

    Nope. Konashenkov's reports are very clear about mentioning himars rockets getting shot down vs himars destroyed.

    In the last 3months, konashenkov reported HIMARS launchers getting struck(пораженная) or destroyed(уничтоженная) far more times than himars were sent in the ukraine. The post doesnt confuse the defnitions. You just dont believe that the Ru MOD's reports are overestimating destroyed launchers.

    As for Su-25s, the claim that georgia still produces them is absolutely ridiculous. This isnt a model airplane that can just be produced at a moment. You of all people should know this. The fact that youre making this ridiculous claim of georgia serially producing Su-25s for ukraine tells me that even you don't believe konashenkov's claims are true.
    ukraine had 70 Su-25s at the start of the war, only 31 operational
    bulgaria had 24 in very poor condition.
    Georgia had 10. Not 20, not 30, ten. So much for it being a Su-25 powerhouse. Also the georgian dream party refused to supply heavy weapons to the ukraine. How do you explain that?
    Czech republic had around a dozen of long retired ones. That makes just around 120 Su-25s available to ukraine, of which most arent flyable. Konasgenkov claimed at least 100 destroyed. There are still Su-25s constantly flying.

    They have been scrapping the very bottom of the barrel in regards to their own inventory, we saw even BTR-60s in service in Nikolayev. While the Ukraine's allies are scrapping the very bottom of the barrel for it abroad. Whether that's Sudan's Soviet-era equipment or Morocco's T-72s. Some of the NATO-standard they have provided have had years of service in the Middle East and some are already falling apart.

    Also I suspect Azerbaijan would be a candidate for handing over Su-25s; they've given/sold other equipment to the Ukraine.
    Iraq had quite a lot at one stage too; not sure if they would be able to hand them over given the Iranian influence, but it's quite possible

    That info about assembling and disassembling Su-25s for delivery to the Ukraine means that a lot more aircraft can ultimately be put into service than just the ones that were still flyable. From others you'd mix and match parts until you have something that can fly, at least for a few dozen hours at any rate. The Ukraine will be fine with that as the life expectancy of their pilots and aircraft is typically less than even that.

    Moscow's statements about "Christmas truce" turned out to be a lie - Zelensky

    That's good. Means Russia is learning.
    Lie and mislead your enemies when its advantageous to do so. But if you lie all the time like the Ukraine does, then no-one will ever be fooled by you in the first place. Tell the truth or most of the truth, the majority of the time.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:06 pm

    I mean it's not a lie if you don't agree to it, someone needs to tell him that

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:14 pm

    Something big went off in Soledar, a huge ODAB of FAB 1500 apparently

    I don't know what else could leave such smoke in the sky

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    Also blagodatnoye , the entire center of the line is collapsing

    This will be big if they can get this done within January timeline

    Just know that Ukros will escalate on Russia with terrorism

    But taking the Charlie Line will be worth it


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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:16 pm

    Multiple ammo depots scattered around Soledar. If it was job of aviation, we will see more of it later on.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:06 pm

    Its not that cold yet and they seem to work OK in Canada, Alaska, Norway etc. Maybe the UA have skipped the optional extras, like maintenance etc.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:10 pm

    That's good. Means Russia is learning.
    Lie and mislead your enemies when its advantageous to do so.
    It was no lie. Zelensky rejected it and is complaining now.  clown

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:13 pm

    Looks like in service Marders might have to be supplied to make up the numbers. Might not be much non US gear left in Europe after this is over. A possible 10 UK Challengers was floated today FFS.

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    European countries (except the full born vassals in the Baltics and Poland) know what is happening in Ukraine and playing on time.
    They all know Ukraine is going to lose - and so delay "the military help" as best as possible.

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    ⚡🇩🇪: Germany is having trouble scraping together the promised Marder infantry fighting vehicles for Ukraine. It appears auditors were not thorough when it came to stock not fit for duty.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:22 pm

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    It´s getting pincer-esque
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    The big pile of smoke mentioned above. Correction: this is Kramatorsk. At least something was blown up.  thumbsup
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:24 pm

    Meanwhile on the UK Mercs front. Its a long drive to then vanish. Maybe someone wanted their Land Rover.

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    Corporal Fraser Good, from Corby, Northamptonshire, UK, currently in the Bakhmut Triangle, posted about Soledar.

    Fraser claims that "Soledar is about to fall completely into the hands of the Russian army."

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    🇺🇦 🇬🇧 Ukrainian police report that on the way from Kramatorsk to Soledar, British volunteers suddenly disappeared

    Two British "paramedics", Andrew Bagshaw and Christopher Perry, are reported missing near Soledar, DPR. Their car left Kramatorsk for Soledar,and contact was lost

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:35 pm

    "Paramedics"  lol1

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    This should be the right explosion

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:41 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Published pics of the "retaliation strikes". Not even one direct hit. Some buildings still have light inside. Why publish this BS and lose reputation for nothing? I guess, someone high up got worried for his ass after Makeevka.

    You naively assume that they have a reputation left to lose

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    Post  limb Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:41 pm

    Remember that the m2a2 bradleys the ukraine is getting weigh around 30 tons, about as much as a sherman tank. Would they stil get stuck on the frozen ground?

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:47 pm

    So, a hospital was bombed in Ochakov, by the sea near Nikolaev, according to Vitaly Kim.

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    Eyewitnesses on the other hand reported a fire going on, then a positively massive cook-off of whatever was stored there occured after a while.

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    I don't think that the relatively minute amounts of oxygen, nitrous and diesel (for the emergency generators) stored at a typical hospital can account for that boom. Nor do I think any hospital has that many tons of GTN (nitroglycerine, used in heart medicine) stocked...

    I get the feeling that the Syrianization is already in full swing. Every ammo depot instantly becomes "the last hospital" etc.

    Several well-known Al-Qaeda jihadis from Syria are already fighting in Ukraine for Kiev too, so everything is consistent. Smile

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:05 pm

    And yeah, it's right on the cape, behind the lighthouse. Where there incidentally is a small naval port and a large military depot, clearly visible on satellite.

    I would have imagined it being struck by the Russians already? Perhaps it was, but they restocked it. Or some leftover UXO blew up in a clearing accident. Or sabotage.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:08 pm

    You'd have to be next level stupid to put a hospital in such a isolated location lol

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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:15 pm

    Ukrainians get will get M2A2 frozen as well.

    They can’t even maintain M113 (!!!), a much simpler design. It’s all about cleaning the track and sprockets before leaving it stationary, but they can’t do that, how they operate BMP-2s as they would have same issue… my bet - crews are completely green. Not even civilian tracked vehicle experience. Imagine if they drop a track, what they would do then? Just shows that they are only trained for banzai charges

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:15 pm

    Meh, random clay huts full of rusty AKs in the middle of the desert have actually been important civilian medical facilities all over Syria for 10 years. Everyone knows that. I am a tad worried that you haven't been brai... I mean, kept yourself up to date with the news.

    Granted, I found it odd too that the innocent civilianness of everything there skyrocketed in the fall of 2015 for some reason, but I was told not to dwell on such questions. I suggest you don't either.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:32 pm

    Its not that cold yet and they seem to work OK in Canada, Alaska, Norway etc. Maybe the UA have skipped the optional extras, like maintenance etc.

    The American armored personnel carrier M113 could not stand the severe Ukrainian frosts. It starts up, but it can’t move either here or there - the tracks are frozen 😁
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:50 pm

    Holy shit the whole front is collapsing

    They already took Krasna Gora and Blagodatnoye

    Once they break Seversk from Bakhmut the whole flank is gonna fold

    I'd push to Chasov Yar and watch the whole Kharkov line from Kremenayya and Svatovo to Liman fall apart

    The right flank is exposed, they are in danger of losing everything which depended on the Charlie Line as a flank

    They can't defend on open fields, so they're gonna fall back to the last line of defense at slavyansk and Kramatorsk

    Those VSU in Kharkov better watch their right side, the only thing holding them is Seversk, and without Soledar , they won't be able to hold long


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