Russian special military operation in Ukraine #35
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The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
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"made a distinction between HIMARS, M270, MARS II or whatever."
Except they have...in every single of their little updates posts "We have intercepted HIMARS missiles" or "We have Destroyed HIMARS Launchers"...so that's a flat out lie...that is literally proven wrong by the Russian MOD.
And you can doubt all you want, by that respect where are the Bradleys n Ukraine, where are the Marauders etc.
We aren't talking about what Ukraine is saying, Russia made the claim they destroyed well over 25 HIMARS by their official posts, So what Ukraine said about those drones means jack shit. Very poor deflection attempt
You're just making stuff up at this point, the last 18 aren't there yet period.
Well it could be like Soviet soldiers claiming every destroyed tank is a Tiger in the later stages of WW2.
Simply because this tank worked up a renown and was widely publicized. Soldiers knew roughly what it looked like, but not exactly; so anything that looked sufficiently fearsome was frequently mistaken for one; whether a Tiger or a Panther or even Pz IVs with add-on armour
And this mis-identification worked its way into many annotated photographs and military records
Russia claims X amount of HIMARS destroyed, but is it keeping a separate count of Smershes, and M270s, and whatever other long-range MLRS systems?
Naturally there is some inflation of the figures as well. It won't always be possible to confirm kills, so they might just be assuming them
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Also, it looks like their weapons were collected.
Safe not to assume nor celebrate this picture that is from December. Otherwise it’s easy to become NAFO. It’s just a drop in an ocean of dead in that theatre anyway, no matter what side. People die on all sides, but job needs to be done. All it matters who will be left standing And who will flee.
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Nope. Konashenkov's reports are very clear about mentioning himars rockets getting shot down vs himars destroyed.
In the last 3months, konashenkov reported HIMARS launchers getting struck(пораженная) or destroyed(уничтоженная) far more times than himars were sent in the ukraine. The post doesnt confuse the defnitions. You just dont believe that the Ru MOD's reports are overestimating destroyed launchers.
As for Su-25s, the claim that georgia still produces them is absolutely ridiculous. This isnt a model airplane that can just be produced at a moment. You of all people should know this. The fact that youre making this ridiculous claim of georgia serially producing Su-25s for ukraine tells me that even you don't believe konashenkov's claims are true.
ukraine had 70 Su-25s at the start of the war, only 31 operational
bulgaria had 24 in very poor condition.
Georgia had 10. Not 20, not 30, ten. So much for it being a Su-25 powerhouse. Also the georgian dream party refused to supply heavy weapons to the ukraine. How do you explain that?
Czech republic had around a dozen of long retired ones. That makes just around 120 Su-25s available to ukraine, of which most arent flyable. Konasgenkov claimed at least 100 destroyed. There are still Su-25s constantly flying.
They have been scrapping the very bottom of the barrel in regards to their own inventory, we saw even BTR-60s in service in Nikolayev. While the Ukraine's allies are scrapping the very bottom of the barrel for it abroad. Whether that's Sudan's Soviet-era equipment or Morocco's T-72s. Some of the NATO-standard they have provided have had years of service in the Middle East and some are already falling apart.
Also I suspect Azerbaijan would be a candidate for handing over Su-25s; they've given/sold other equipment to the Ukraine.
Iraq had quite a lot at one stage too; not sure if they would be able to hand them over given the Iranian influence, but it's quite possible
That info about assembling and disassembling Su-25s for delivery to the Ukraine means that a lot more aircraft can ultimately be put into service than just the ones that were still flyable. From others you'd mix and match parts until you have something that can fly, at least for a few dozen hours at any rate. The Ukraine will be fine with that as the life expectancy of their pilots and aircraft is typically less than even that.
Moscow's statements about "Christmas truce" turned out to be a lie - Zelensky
That's good. Means Russia is learning.
Lie and mislead your enemies when its advantageous to do so. But if you lie all the time like the Ukraine does, then no-one will ever be fooled by you in the first place. Tell the truth or most of the truth, the majority of the time.
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I don't know what else could leave such smoke in the sky
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Also blagodatnoye , the entire center of the line is collapsing
This will be big if they can get this done within January timeline
Just know that Ukros will escalate on Russia with terrorism
But taking the Charlie Line will be worth it
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It was no lie. Zelensky rejected it and is complaining now.That's good. Means Russia is learning.
Lie and mislead your enemies when its advantageous to do so.
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European countries (except the full born vassals in the Baltics and Poland) know what is happening in Ukraine and playing on time.
They all know Ukraine is going to lose - and so delay "the military help" as best as possible.
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Corporal Fraser Good, from Corby, Northamptonshire, UK, currently in the Bakhmut Triangle, posted about Soledar.
Fraser claims that "Soledar is about to fall completely into the hands of the Russian army."
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Two British "paramedics", Andrew Bagshaw and Christopher Perry, are reported missing near Soledar, DPR. Their car left Kramatorsk for Soledar,and contact was lost
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caveat emptor wrote:Published pics of the "retaliation strikes". Not even one direct hit. Some buildings still have light inside. Why publish this BS and lose reputation for nothing? I guess, someone high up got worried for his ass after Makeevka.
You naively assume that they have a reputation left to lose
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Eyewitnesses on the other hand reported a fire going on, then a positively massive cook-off of whatever was stored there occured after a while.
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I don't think that the relatively minute amounts of oxygen, nitrous and diesel (for the emergency generators) stored at a typical hospital can account for that boom. Nor do I think any hospital has that many tons of GTN (nitroglycerine, used in heart medicine) stocked...
I get the feeling that the Syrianization is already in full swing. Every ammo depot instantly becomes "the last hospital" etc.
Several well-known Al-Qaeda jihadis from Syria are already fighting in Ukraine for Kiev too, so everything is consistent.
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I would have imagined it being struck by the Russians already? Perhaps it was, but they restocked it. Or some leftover UXO blew up in a clearing accident. Or sabotage.
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They can’t even maintain M113 (!!!), a much simpler design. It’s all about cleaning the track and sprockets before leaving it stationary, but they can’t do that, how they operate BMP-2s as they would have same issue… my bet - crews are completely green. Not even civilian tracked vehicle experience. Imagine if they drop a track, what they would do then? Just shows that they are only trained for banzai charges
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Granted, I found it odd too that the innocent civilianness of everything there skyrocketed in the fall of 2015 for some reason, but I was told not to dwell on such questions. I suggest you don't either.
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The American armored personnel carrier M113 could not stand the severe Ukrainian frosts. It starts up, but it can’t move either here or there - the tracks are frozen
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In my day we used to be pulled with ski's across field's with several feet of snow. Mind you they had special tracks for winter time. Occasionally we worked with American troops but they shook too much to do much
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They already took Krasna Gora and Blagodatnoye
Once they break Seversk from Bakhmut the whole flank is gonna fold
I'd push to Chasov Yar and watch the whole Kharkov line from Kremenayya and Svatovo to Liman fall apart
The right flank is exposed, they are in danger of losing everything which depended on the Charlie Line as a flank
They can't defend on open fields, so they're gonna fall back to the last line of defense at slavyansk and Kramatorsk
Those VSU in Kharkov better watch their right side, the only thing holding them is Seversk, and without Soledar , they won't be able to hold long
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