Russian special military operation in Ukraine #36

Ukrainians seem to be low on artillery in Zaporozhia region.

Grey Zone published video from Ukrainian side - failed Russian attack. Soldiers were marching in open field. But artillery only hit/destroyed IFV and they had injured.

This mistake could been much worse if Ukraine wouldn’t have all artillery concentrated in Bakhmut. We seen how similar Ukrainian attacks end





Ukrainian soldiers are getting the beating by their own NCO. It seems they were stationed in flats, presumably in Bakhmut. Morale seems to be bad
https://t.me/Topaz_Govorit/3205

Those Ukrainian Bandera-Nazi officers beating up scared and disheartened mobilized soldiers run serious risk of being victims of some "accidental" discharge of an automatic weapon.

Probably already happened, and if so it will pop up in a few months. Their insane media censorship only delays things.

Why Russian soldiers were marching on foot and not in IFV or APC?

flamming_python wrote:I would say it's an option for Russia to leave the Ukraine, if NATO also leaves the Ukraine and takes all their mercs, bases, agreements and neo-Nazis with them.
But realistically neither side is going to back down at this stage.

That was the Russian request from the beginning. They wouldn't mess with Ukraine at all if some very basic security things were guaranteed. The US and EU thought Russia was weak and bluffing, so they went ahead with compromising Russian security by propping up the Bandera-Nazi nutter minority in Ukraine. The west made them so powerful that they not only fucked, with impunity with ethnic and linguistic Russians in the Soviet-created former Ukrainian SSR, but also directly threatened Russian Federation security.

If you transfer the general outline of this to any other country with a powerful and concerned neighbor, the expected answer would be dead obvious (expected..) and almost everyone would understand and accept it.

Cf Russia-backed coup d'etat in Mexico, fully focusing on and amplifying some die hard anti-American faction to the point where they openly talk of reclaiming California and Texas.

Washington would just stay idle, eh?

so apparently Wagner has set up a portal where Ukrainians can inquire as to the status of their loved ones. i.e. have they been killed, or captured. They are even allowing the POWs to send video messages to loved ones. Such a clever idea. The Ukraine govt is not giving people any info about their sons. By doing this, Wagner spreads the word that you best way home is to surrender. You will be treated lawfully and no fear of torture. This combined with steady defeats and appalling conditions will soften the resistance considerably I think. The Russians should air drop white flags and surrender instructions. Or maybe blue flags as white is hard to see in winter.

So with some recent admissions by the Ukrainian National Guard, they've suffered more than 140,000 KIA, and habe 40,000 MIA (which essentially means dead, it's just that Kiev is not recognizing them as such, it saves a bit of money for the time being).

So nearing 200,000 servicemen killed, per official admissions. Could be higher still, it is obvious that they and their NATO backers try to keep it under wraps. Indeed, many Ukrainians with some degree of insight have said as much --"If the real numbers got out it would ruin everything."

Then add ~20,000 POWs. It is quite telling that a mere handful of Russians/Republicans are swapped for hundreds of VSU guys each time a POW trade occurs.

Russia and the Republican armies are below 20k KIA, even the most anti-Russian Russian journalist sleuths only found decent proof of ~12k.

For the sake of the argument, let's stick with the numbers that have been somewhat verified (by the quality of the source):

UA military dead: 140,000+
RU military dead: 15'000+ (I'm including LDNR and Wagner)
UA civilian dead: ~9000 (per Kievs own data, and UN data, remarkably low considering the scale and length of the "SMO", it's almost as if the Russians aren't trying to genocide everything... Eh, see above re Kupyansk etc)

I said half a year ago that the general ratio was 1:10, I believe it still is. I also said half a year ago that Zelensky and his NATO-backers are the ones actually genociding Ukrainians. Still seems to be the deal.

Yep, I do not doubt at all that >50% of the Ukrainan civilian casualties suffered because of Kievan action, which has been reckless throughout. And they've been extremely deceitful, almost comically, once anyone dared calling them out on it.

But you know how it goes. Even if it is crystal clear that Ukraine is killing civvies, some media and political wanking rapidly commences and wham,  it's Russia's fault anyway, stop asking questions.

>You live in Sweden?
>Are you Swedish?
>How are you familiar with the
>current situation in Sweden?

The question was not to me, but Finnish broadcast news just told that currently there's many very serious gang wars going on in Sweden.

Wow, a nonbrainwashed finn here. AFAIK 91% of finns want to send weapons to the ukraine. Thats what 100 years of russia hating even before the winter war has done.

I read somewhere that the attack was mainly on foot coz of mine fields and ukr ATGM, and that the battles are already going inside Orehov and Around Goulaipolie, dont know how true is this though.

klahtinen wrote:The question was not to me, but Finnish broadcast news just told that currently there's many very serious gang wars going on in Sweden.

If I recall correctly, Sweden has yearly shootings and bombings that rival actual middle-eastern warzones, statistically. And it is not a wild guess that the perpetrators aren't "Erik Svensson"-Swedes, so to speak.

edit: I was made aware of a kind of tongue-in-cheek take on political correctness in Sweden..

The neverending gang wars, bombings, shootings etc is strongly associated with the "non-skiing"-demographic. Ha-ha.

Apparently heights above klescheevka were taken. Thats great news. Now theres fire control on the krasnoe highway. Hopefully krasnoe and chasov yar arent as fortified as soledar.