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    Post  flamming_python Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:49 pm

    China can propose what it wants, but Russia will not agree to anything that doesn't include the Ukraine withdrawing from the 4 regions that are now part of Russia, and in full, as well as an iron-clad guarantee that the Ukraine will not join NATO whether officially or unofficially, or host foreign military bases on its soil, or any foreign troops/mercs/equipment/whatever. Other than that, they can Nazi-around and receive virtual money from Europe all they want.

    And the Ukraine, and the US-loyal servants in power there, will not agree to anything with those conditions, else they would have agreed already in 2014, or in December 2021, or in April 2022.

    All the rest are just word games and maneuvering for the benefit of recruiting world opinion.

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    Post  ludovicense Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:56 pm

    I think the plan was coordinated with Russia as the Chinese chancellor is in Moscow probably working on this..

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:30 pm

    In other words, it is a gesture , provided only to give a case for further pushing back of the Ukrainian borders

    Because we all know such a proposal would be ignored by Kiev and Washington

    So, China will propose a plan, Ukraine and the US will never accept it

    And then it is time to send in the VDV, a Gostomel type assault behind Kharkov and Dnipro, with large combined arms assault in the rear of VSU on the steppes

    This way shelling of Russian territory will stop, and the whole process can restart itself next year

    A slow gobbling of Ukro territory, killing maximum VSU troops, and ensuring Russian territory is protected from GLSDB and ER HIMARS rockets which have made their way to the front

    Putin offers a chance, a quiet before a storm

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:31 pm

    Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

    In Kupyansk direction, the attacks, launched by Army Aviation and the artillery of the 'Zapad' Group of Forces, have resulted in the neutralisation of the enemy manpower near Krakhmalnoye, Peschanoye, Berestovoye (Kharkov region), and Novosyolovskoye (Lugansk People's Republic).

    The enemy has lost up to 55 personnel, two pickups, and one D-20 howitzer.

    In Krasny Liman direction, the active operations of the 'Tsentr' Group of Forces, as well as the attacks, launched by aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems, have resulted in the neutralisation of the manpower and hardware of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Yampolovka (Donetsk People's Republic), Stelmakhovka, and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

    About 85 Ukrainian personnel, one infantry fighting vehicle, two armoured fighting vehicles, one Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, and one D-30 howitzer have been eliminated.

    In Donetsk direction, the offensive operations of volunteers from assault detachments, supported by the units of the Airborne Troops' formation from Pskov, as well as the attacks, launched by aviation and the artillery of the 'Yug' Group of Forces, have resulted in the elimination of over 210 Ukrainian personnel, six armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, one Grad multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS), and one D-20 howitzer.

    One AFU ordnance depot has been destroyed near Avdeyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    In South Donetsk direction, Operational-Tactical Aviation and the artillery of the 'Vostok' Group of Forces have launched a complex fire attack against the AFU units near Vodyanoye, Ugledar, Dobrovolye (Donetsk People's Republic), and Uglesborochnaya railway station.

    The enemy has lost up to 105 Ukrainian personnel, one tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, three armoured fighting vehicles, as well as the Msta-B, D-20, and D-30 howitzers.

    Six AFU ordnance depots have been destroyed near Razdolnoye, Bogatyr, Ugledar, Razliv, Vodyanoye (Donetsk People's Republic), and Uglesborochnaya railway station.

    In Kherson direction, the counterbattery warfare operations have resulted in the destruction of two Msta-B howitzers, and one D-30 howitzer.

    Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 97 artillery units at their firing positions, as well as the manpower and hardware in 128 areas.

    One 35D6 low-altitude aerial target detector has been destroyed near Krasnoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

    Air defence facilities have shot down one Su-25 airplane of Ukrainian Air Force near Kizomys (Kherson region).

    Nine unmanned aerial vehicles have been destroyed near Zhovtnevoye (Kharkov region), Karmazinovka, Privolye, Rubezhnoye, Pshenichnoye (Lugansk People's Republic), Yegorovka, Pervomayskoye, Novoandreyevka (Donetsk People's Republic), and Pologi (Zaporozhye region).

    In total, 387 airplanes, 210 helicopters, 3,222 unmanned aerial vehicles, 405 air defence missile systems, 7,994 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,038 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,189 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 8,501 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation.

    https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12455671@egNews

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    Post  Arrow Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:33 pm

    And then it is time to send in the VDV, a Gostomel type assault behind Kharkov and Dnipro, with large combined arms assault in the rear of VSU on the steppes wrote:

    Rather, you will feel disappointed because you will not see any major offensive or landings.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:46 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Spending New Year's in Dubai is maybe a tad distasteful, but then she is a young woman who likes to party, same as many Russians, and the Emirates is not an unfriendly country

    She is daughter of a Defense Minister of a nation which is at war

    It's not tad distasteful, it's straight up obscene

    She might as well take a piss on the graves of dead soldiers and shit on the doorstep of their relatives

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:49 pm

    Arrow wrote:China is due to present a peace plan tomorrow.

    Chincoms should be told to shove their plan up their asses

    Anything less than termination of Ukraine is a defeat for Russia

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:55 pm

    arrow wrote:
    Rather, you will feel disappointed because you will not see any major offensive or landings.

    It is quite moronic to disregard what the president just said on a nationally televised speech, in front of thousands in Moscow

    "everyone should understand that the longer the range of Western weapons systems being delivered to Ukraine, the farther Russia will be forced to move the threat away from its borders it’s only natural,”

    It seems many so called fortune tellers predict too much they don't know anything about

    An offensive will happen, it is a matter of time only

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:05 pm

    @ Архангельск
    Nobody said that his speech will be disregarded, just that means by which it will be done will differ. I have to agree that the chance of seeing another Gostomel is pretty low.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:05 pm

    Is that all butthurt about the kids can be explained by any reasonable means other than blah blah blah?
    Yes, people with a solid and stable income can afford worldwide trips.
    Yes, people who have power & contacts can locate their kids in the most exclusive positions.
    Yes, they will be even more wealthy than their parents.
    That is how it works, it is called wealth accumulation.
    Every single person should be devoted to that, no matter the existing status.
    The butthurt means that you are not a part of that.
    Sorry.
    Don't waste your time on the internet forum, go and do some productive things.


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    Post  Regular Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:24 pm

    Well atleast she is not homosexual deviant who lives in UK like Solovyovs son


    Elon Musk of PMCs just visited Artemovsk

    400 meters from Ukrainian positions

    https://twitter.com/DrazaM33/status/1628813240401645568?s=20


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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:25 pm

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    Posted by a Twitter user. Good start, but there are some grey areas...  lol1
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:35 pm

    Post Regular Today at 10:24 pm

    Well atleast she is not homosexual deviant who lives in UK like Solovyovs son


    Every single sane human being gives a round shit about the sexual orientation of anybody because it is not his fukin business.
    As long as the orientation is not being waved in front of him as a bloody banner.
    As far as I had not a single clue of his son's orientation (if true), looks like he cares about his business the way we all shall do.
    Butthurt can be calmed with this :

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    Post  Isos Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:48 pm

    Chinese seems to have decided to send in weapons. Peace plan just for the public.

    IMO PLAN would love to send some marines to help Russia and get combat experience for future island wars in south china sea. They desperately need some experience.

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    Post  Backman Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 am

    This is why i wonder about the strategy. Even if Ukraine only has 20 million in population left , netting out the males is still a lot of cannon fodder. Russia has to systematically disrupt this process. Hit govt buildings , paralize the state.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:55 am

    Sorry, posted in the wrong thread earlier.

    ------

    It is the 24th of February.....,  paratrooper Everyone remembers the event?. paratrooper
    It is engraved in my mind anyway.

    Gostomel

    my description on Odysee by this video:

    on 24th of February 2022 the Russian Federation launched an massive airborne assault on an airfield right on Kiev's doorstep.
    Marking the beginning of the Russian Denazification of Ukraine.
    For friend and Foe alike, it gave a great deal of respect for the Russian Military's ability to execute it so successful as this.
    Personally, i am an former Airborne soldier as well. And i have nothing but admiration for this operation.
    It will certainly will be told in military circles for decades to come as how it can be successfully done.

    As a note from me:

    I spend a lot of time in searching for additional footage, then frame-interpolating and upscaling footage to HD trough AI.
    Some vids where too vague and low-res at some points for the software/AI so they look 3d rendered.
    But personally i was quite satisfied the footage got to this level in general.
    Apologies in advance if i melt some people's PC's here.
    I went for full frames and Resolution, no compromise with this one.
    For once i wanted to get the best out of the footage.

    the older compilation is here. it will not be taken down:
    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Gostromel-Tribute-compilation:c


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    Post  Regular Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:00 am

    @alamo

    And the only way to make homosexuality an non-issue is to get it into hiding again. Do I need to remind what happened to pidors in Soviet Union? It was optimal approach - up to 7 years in hard labour camp, article 121, that was revoked in 1993 against popular support by no other than western prostitute Yelcin.

    Also, homoglobos are pro-Ukrainian, they thrive like bacteria in perverted west. Just like this one, who lost bit of his hand, instead of something else he was hoping to loose. 

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    @backman 

    yes, this is what many people were saying - it’s not just Russia who thinks that grinding war of attrition is feasible, but that is what NATO are doing. They want to make this war very costly to Russia in exchange of UA lives… they are scraping the barrel in some regions, mostly from “undesirable” passives like Odesites and Kharkovites (they used to be pro-Russian in 2014)

    Western Ukrainians are still not subjected to this and it would mean they still have enough meat to throw at.

    Ukraine is not even a country at this point. It’s a foreign controlled army who doesn’t care about future demographics or even their own land. You can send whole country into demographic blackhole and turn it into stoneage age, but Ukrs will go at you like talibs.


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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:01 am

    She is daughter of a Defense Minister of a nation which is at war

    It's not tad distasteful, it's straight up obscene

    She might as well take a piss on the graves of dead soldiers and shit on the doorstep of their relatives

    Yes Russia is at war, but it doesn't feel like it. No evidence of it basically where I live. Basically millions of people still go on holiday to the same Thailand, Turkey, etc.. and yes Dubai too.

    As the daughter of the defense minister yes she should stay inside the country and be more solemn in general, not only for appearance reasons but as a security measure too.
    But in terms of being just a citizen of the country she hasn't done anything that anyone else hasn't.

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    Post  Regular Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:10 am

    The only problem I see is that people know where she was and what she was doing. It wouldn’t take much for Ukrainian SBU to organise some bullshit, knowing that they went after a fantasist Dugin.

    There are some politics who sent their sons to fight or even joined SMO themselves btw. Not everyone who is rich and powerful acts the same.

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    Post  Backman Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:14 am

    ^ That's another point. She ain't safe.

    I never heard of her. Just did a Google image search. Expected the worst judging by the talk of her. But most pics show her with her baby daughter and husband. She works in the Russian financial industry that has business in dubai. She seems fine.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:54 am

    A lil' bit of Ukro-madness

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:57 am


    Regular wrote:The only problem I see is that people know where she was and what she was doing. It wouldn’t take much for Ukrainian SBU to organise some bullshit, knowing that they went after a fantasist Dugin...

    This would be optimal scenario

    It would definitely help push Russian Military towards pussyfooting less



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    Post  mnztr Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:10 am

    Chinese seems to have decided to send in weapons. Peace plan just for the public. wrote:

    At this point China almost has to send weapons to Russia even if Russia does not need them. The US has given them a ultimatum. If they back down, the ultimatums will never stop. They should say for every shell the US sends they will offer 10 to Russia.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:28 am

    Western Ukrainians are still not subjected to this and it would mean they still have enough meat to throw at.

    The end will truly be in sight when they start sending people from western ukraine to the east to die...

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