Russian special military operation in Ukraine #39

^ I guess yes

Russian forces fire on all supply lines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemivsk, 03.03.2023.

Wagner fighter said that the supply routes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk are in the affected area.

All the ways of supplying and withdrawing the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Artemovsk are in the zone of fire destruction of the artillery of the Wagner Group, a fighter of the unit told RIA Novosti.

"A hill, a hill, it was strategic for this area, we took it successfully. As soon as you climb it, you can see the surroundings far away from there - naturally, all the access roads that are located north of Bakhmut (Ukrainian name of Artemovsk. - Approx. ed.), we see that it is no longer possible to pass through these access roads, not to pass, as the enemy would like," the source said.

According to him, Russian forces are now cutting off the Ukrainian army's supply routes from Chasov Yar near Artemivsk.

"Artillery is constantly working, some kind of movement is noticed, it is immediately worked out there - they have problems, I think, with this, and big ones. They shoot accurately, but the enemy also does not do nonsense: they make other roads, not only those that are on the maps. They do it against, bypassing through the fields, through plantings they make their own roads, new routes, "the fighter explained.

The weather is also not conducive to the movement of the Ukrainian military.

“The thaw is big: heavy equipment gets stuck, gets stuck. Where it gets stuck, the second one goes there, and this is an excellent target. In general, all roads are shot through to Bakhmut (Ukrainian name for Artemovsk. — Approx. ed.),” the interlocutor specified.

Today, the founder of the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin , said that Artemovsk is almost completely surrounded. He called on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to allow units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to leave the city.

The day before, Sergei Rakhmanin, a member of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence, said that the situation in Artemivsk was critical for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. According to him, from a military point of view, it makes no sense to hold the city at any cost. The main problem is that Russian units have actually cut off all supply lines for the Ukrainian group of troops, the deputy pointed out.

On Tuesday, the American television channel CNN aired an interview with a Ukrainian military man, in which he admitted that the situation in Artemovsk for Kiev in all directions is much worse than they say officially. Bloomberg reported that gaining control of Artyomovsk by the Russian military would be a step towards the liberation of the entire Donetsk People's Republic.

https://ria.ru/20230303/puti-1855748234.html

Are conventional warhead capabilities of the Avangard known?

Maybe Russia could try attaching the FOAB to an RS-28. :-) It can handle the supposed 7T weight. Might be handy for dealing with large industrial areas, unless they want to save the machinery/plants.

Pavi's post, quoting Sun Zu.
sun zu once said; Leave always escape route for the enemy. If cornered, it will fight feriously untill the end.

I disagree with that in this situation,

Sun tzu did not had TOS-1A's at his disposal, to just cauterize the Nazi infestation in Bakhmut if they insist on staying.
It is pointless to try to hold an static position when Russia's just rolls up Hell itself up on your position to give you an excruciating end to your life.
NSFW for KIA troops by TOS-1A.


Azovstal had underground bunkers and tunnels, Nothing will shield them in Bakhmut.
If they want out now from Bakhmut, they have to content with RF and wagner forces targeting everything on the roads.
Not to mention RF artillery that will turn the roads into an lunar landscape when they start shelling.

Destruction of the ukro army is the main objective.

Ukraine missed their window for retreat, this is going to be an next Soledar. it is inevitable at this point.
RF/Wagner now has fire control established over the routes out of Bakhmut.
And,....who is going to cover the retreat?, they are not holding on as it is.
If an unit leaves their position they create an Vacuum witch will be exploited immediately by Wagner/RF.

They make a run for it, They will be cut down on the roads out of bakhmut.
They stay, they will get exterminated by Wagner and heavy RF artillery.
Either scenario is catastrophic for the Ukrainian side.

But of course, here we go again with the western media and Ukro TV.
Keep your card ready folks.



Werewolf's post number 667 quoting firebird.
Firebird"Evidently those kraut vermin learnt absolutely nothing in 1945 and onwards.
If a nuke landed on Berlin, it might actually finally teach these pieces of shit a lesson."


Werewolf:You are expecting to much of brains in a country where none exist.
Like I said, the germans are just as the Ukrops deep down in the arse of the antirussian propaganda. They will fear and hate at the same time. They will learn nothing but will show their true colors.

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it has been almost a year ago Werewolf commented in depth to this.
Using an perfect specimen from Alamo's personal RDF Zoo to illustrate the issue with the West.

I saved the post at the time to my archives.

Give it a read to refresh your mind or if you missed it, read his excellent comment on the problem with the West.

Looks like the plane shot down was su34

It doesn't even matter if it was friendly fire, or enemy S300,

The showing of su34 has been disastrous

And it's not because of the plane -

I am finally feeling better and having more energy

From a Russian blogger on why the Wagner group seems to be making the main effort, with my comments

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/03/02/el-grupo-wagner-por-que-lleva-el-peso-de-la-lucha/

This is an entry on tactics, a complicated, technical subject, from a couple Russian sources and a lot of my own content,

Tank-infantry cooperation

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/03/03/cooperacion-infanteria-y-tanques/

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - -- Retweeted
@Cyberspec1
Prigozhin predicts Bakhmut will fall within 2 days
AFU can still use small secondary field roads that link to the larger road passing through Ivanivske to Chasov Yar.
But even they're within easy Artillery range. If Hromovo falls, then they would be within small arms range


@PeImeniPusha
Seversk CHOMP incoming



@200_zoka
It looks like engine failure to me, let's wait to see what Fighterbomber has to say

The pilots survived, which is good

but still not acceptable losing so many of these machines

To be fair to the Germans, they never got liberated from the Nazis after WWII. The US laundered "ex-Nazis" back into power.

Not just pindos didn’t eradicate nazis, but Soviets also let many of them stay in power. And funny thing, some of the nazis became passionate communists. Either, they never had hard nazi believes due to whole premise of nazism (this ideology was forced on some people) or they simply were changed their ideologies. 

Vincent Müller, Heinrich Rau, Karl Donitz and even STASI was full of ex-Gestapo.

To be honest, by looking at history, these ex-nazis didn’t influence political discourse nor we’re troublesome. From this experience is why I think Russians refuse to eliminate openly nazi Ukropolicians like they did with chechen insurgents. There might be good use of them later on.

We are unsure how many sorties the Su-34's make. But I would guess there is indeed updates needed for that plane to make it more survivable.

The experience gained in this conflict will help with that of course.

Shocked No way they keep defending at this rythm. They will loose all their male population. In one year they lost the amount of people getting 18years people per year.

According to wiki 280k people reach military age every year. They just lost a generation of people in 1 year and among them their most skilled troops.

The one missing is way higher IMO. Most aren't recovered from the front whe they die.

Anyone got a link to this CNN article?

Otherwise it's for the bullshit pile

Although I suspect Ukrainian losses by now are not much lower.

We are unsure how many sorties the Su-34's make. But I would guess there is indeed updates needed for that plane to make it more survivable.

but still not acceptable losing so many of these machines

This is a load of nonsense. It is not an F-35 or any clean sheet design. Its a freaking su 27 with 2 side by side seats. A proven and battle tested platform.

Maybe, just maybe, more su 34's are being lost than anything else because it is a bomber/strike aircraft in a land war.

I looked for the CNN article and can't find it. Can't trust a lot of these people on Twitter smh...

@dionis "Are conventional warhead capabilities of the Avangard known?

Maybe Russia could try attaching the FOAB to an RS-28. :-) It can handle the supposed 7T weight. Might be handy for dealing with large industrial areas, unless they want to save the machinery/plants."

Think about twice? ICBM is strategic level mass destruction device. All parties who has them notify always each other if they are testing them and this is for good reason. If unnoticed ICBM is launched, there is always uncertainty, is it nuclear attack, and may trigger full retaliatory response. Then it is sayonara for all of us. For single bomb? I don't think so...

Sheremetyevo International Airport today morning. This is for all those who said that airport is shut because of the drone strike. Tarmac filled will commercial jets from Turkiye and China.

Are conventional warhead capabilities of the Avangard known?

Maybe Russia could try attaching the FOAB to an RS-28. :-) It can handle the supposed 7T weight. Might be handy for dealing with large industrial areas, unless they want to save the machinery/plants.

I doubt they would bother with a conventional warhead for an ICBM, it simply does not make sense really... the FOAB would be too long and narrow... and besides it is a fuel air explosive so would not work well coming in at ICBM speeds...

Will move the off topic Malvinas post when I find a suitable thread for it as it is

My bad on that...

Plenty of videos of Ukrainians retreating with vehicles or through the mud. Question - what happened to ZSU reinforcements they sent few days ago? My bet they are reinforcing the retreat routes? It would be perfect time to disorganise their retreat

Any ideas of what units are still there?