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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:59 pm

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    ‼ The Ukrainian Telegram channel "Rezident" reports that, according to its sources, in the previous three days the AFU has lost over 150 units of heavy equipment, including 12 German Leopard MBTs and 15 American M2 Bradley IFVs.

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    Post  Isos Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:03 pm

    Tonight the big night. Tomorrow morning Ukraine will know if they will not exist anymore officially. There is no more men and vehicles left. They will throw everything they have tonight.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:05 pm

    Report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (June 9, 2023)

    💥 Tonight, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a group strike with long-range precision sea and air-based weapons against foreign-made ammunition, weapons and military equipment depots , including unmanned aerial vehicles . All assigned objects are hit.

    💥 As a result of the strikes, the supply of Ukrainian troops in the areas of hostilities was disrupted.

    ◽ Over the past day, the armed forces of Ukraine continued to attempt to conduct offensive operations in the South-Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions.

    In the area of the Vremevsky ledge, units of the Vostok group of forces repelled four enemy attacks, carried out by forces of up to two battalion tactical groups, reinforced with tanks, in the areas of the settlements of Levadne, Zaporozhye region, Novoselka, Storozhevoe and Neskuchnoe, Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽ In the Zaporozhye direction, decisive and competent actions of Russian troops, air strikes and artillery fire repelled two attacks by Ukrainian troops in the areas of the settlements of Novodanilovka and Malaya Tokmachka in the Zaporozhye region during the day.

    💥 In addition, south of the city of Orekhov, Zaporozhye region, heavy flamethrower systems inflicted damage on two clusters of manpower and equipment of the 47th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    ◽ Operational-tactical aviation strikes of the Vostok group of troops hit enemy reserves in the areas of the settlements of Gulyai Pole, Omelnyk and Preobrazhenka, Zaporozhye region.

    ◽ The total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in these directions per day amounted to 680 Ukrainian military personnel, 35 tanks, 11 infantry fighting vehicles, 19 armored fighting vehicles, six vehicles, including three
    HMMWVs, as well as a French-made Cezar self-propelled artillery mount.

    ◽ In the Donetsk direction, the most active hostilities were conducted in the areas of the settlements of Maryinka and Avdeevka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 The “Southern” group of troops successfully repelled six attacks by units of the 110th mechanized, 59th motorized infantry and 79th air assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the directions of the settlements of Khimik, Krasnogorovka, Pervomayskoye and the northern outskirts of Maryinka of the Donetsk People's Republic. Wedging in our defense is not allowed.

    ◽ During the fighting, up to 410 Ukrainian servicemen, four tanks, eight infantry fighting vehicles, seven vehicles, the US-made M777 artillery system, and the Msta-B howitzer were destroyed in a day.

    💥 In addition, an ammunition depot of the 79th Airborne Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was destroyed near the village of Krasnogorovka.

    ◽ In the Kupyansk direction, operational-tactical and army aviation, artillery of the "Western" group of troops hit units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novomlynsk, Molchanovo, Berestovoye of the Kharkov region and Rozovka of the Luhansk People's Republic.

    ◽ In the areas of the settlements of Olshana, Kharkiv region and Novoselovskoe, Lugansk people's republic, the activities of two Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups were stopped.

    💥 Over 30 Ukrainian military personnel, three vehicles, combat vehicle MLRS "Hurricane" , as well as two D-30 howitzers.

    ◽ In the Krasno-Limansky direction, air strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems of the "Center" group of forces defeated enemy units in the areas of the settlements of Nevskoye of the Luhansk People's Republic, Yampolovka and Grigorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 The activities of the Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group were stopped in the area of the settlement of Chervonaya Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic.

    Over the past day, more than 50 Ukrainian military personnel, an infantry fighting vehicle, two vehicles, two Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mounts, as well as a D-20 howitzer.

    💥 In the area of the village of Serebryanka of the Donetsk People's Republic, a US-made AN / TPQ-37 counter-battery radar was hit.

    ◽ In the Kherson direction , as a result of fire damage, up to 70 Ukrainian servicemen, 10 armored combat vehicles, seven vehicles, a Grad MLRS combat vehicle, an Akatsiya self-propelled artillery mount, and a D-30 howitzer were destroyed in a day.

    💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery of groups of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit 97 artillery units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 126 districts.

    💥 Two command and observation posts of units of the 24th Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hit near the city of Dzerzhinsk in the Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽ The communications center of the 102nd Territorial Defense Brigade was destroyed in the area of the village of Gulyai Pole, Zaporozhye region.

    💥 Fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the area of the settlement of Novoe Zaporizhia, Zaporozhye region, in an air battle.

    💥 A Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down by means of air defense near the village of Babino, Kherson region.

    💥 During the day, two Storm Shadow cruise missiles and 14 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers were intercepted.

    ◽ In addition, 13 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Ogurtsovo, Olshana, Kharkiv region, Zhytlovka, Luhansk People's Republic, Volodino, Krasnogorovka, Donetsk People's Republic, Sladkaya Balka, Zaporozhye Region, Bratolyubovka, Peschanoe, and Vasylivka, Kherson Region.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation , 440 aircraft, 238 helicopters, 4,555 unmanned aerial vehicles, 424 anti-aircraft missile systems, 9,798 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,122 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 5,062 field artillery guns and mortars, and also 10838 units of special military vehicles.

    🔹 @mod_russia

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    Post  Hole Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:33 pm

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    Explosions in Odessa

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:18 am

    US announces next lot. Most is new production so likely months away.

    The capabilities in this announcement include:

       Additional munitions for Patriot air defense systems;
       HAWK air defense systems and missiles;
       105mm and 203mm artillery rounds;
       Puma Unmanned Aerial Systems;
       Laser-guided rocket system munitions;
       Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.


    Meanwhile more destruction evidence, haven't seen a video quite like this before

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    Post  jon_deluxe Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:21 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:RF Forces shell Ukrainian convoy im South Donetsk


    0:18 you can see a body flying a good 20 metres away. Shocked

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:24 am

    meanwhile in the lair of evil - same type of moronic troll as sun-aint-shine-deep-in-da-ass :



    British-made tanks are about to sweep Putin’s conscripts aside


    9 June 2023 • 1:15pm
    As a former tank commander, I know the Challenger 2 vastly outmatches what’s left of Russia’s armour

    []

    s a former tank commander, I can say one thing for certain: Putin’s demoralised conscripts are utterly unprepared for the shock action now hitting their lines. Ukrainian armoured formations are beginning to meet Russian forces in battle, and they are going to pulverise Russia’s defensive lines. I am confident for one simple reason: Ukraine will follow the Western ideology of manoeuvre warfare in a combined arms context, while the Russians will follow Soviet doctrine, relying on attrition and numbers. The Russians will find that the armour of Western tanks is far more resilient than flesh and bone, they will die in great numbers, and they will lose.

    []

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/



    weekend is coming I want the same what he's smoking. But awakening will be rude for sure lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:33 am

    Hundreds of vehicles destroyed, including 20+ Leo2s over the past day and a half, definitely thousands of causalties, yet UA keeps trying to throw everything they got to breach the 1st (!) line of defense.

    Twitter buzz says the attacks this night are even bigger than the previous ones, and the Russian side hints at a correspondingly larger slaughter too.

    Curious as to what we'll see tomorrow when photo/video material again starts trickling in.




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    Post  TMA1 Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:42 am

    JohninMK wrote:US announces next lot. Most is new production so likely months away.

    The capabilities in this announcement include:

       Additional munitions for Patriot air defense systems;
       HAWK air defense systems and missiles;
       105mm and 203mm artillery rounds;
       Puma Unmanned Aerial Systems;
       Laser-guided rocket system munitions;
       Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.


    Meanwhile more destruction evidence, haven't seen a video quite like this before


    Sorry for the whole quote but that video is fascinating. Look at the copper hoops attached to the suicide drone. Could these be wired to explode the shaped charge on impact with those copper hoops? Some sort of anti-grate measure?

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:45 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:meanwhile in the lair of evil  - same type of moronic troll as sun-aint-shine-deep-in-da-ass :



    British-made tanks are about to sweep Putin’s conscripts aside


    9 June 2023 • 1:15pm
    As a former tank commander, I know the Challenger 2 vastly outmatches what’s left of Russia’s armour

    []

    s a former tank commander, I can say one thing for certain: Putin’s demoralised conscripts are utterly unprepared for the shock action now hitting their lines. Ukrainian armoured formations are beginning to meet Russian forces in battle, and they are going to pulverise Russia’s defensive lines. I am confident for one simple reason: Ukraine will follow the Western ideology of manoeuvre warfare in a combined arms context, while the Russians will follow Soviet doctrine, relying on attrition and numbers. The Russians will find that the armour of Western tanks is far more resilient than flesh and bone, they will die in great numbers, and they will lose.

    []

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/



    weekend is coming I want the same what he's smoking. But awakening will be rude for sure lol1 lol1 lol1

    What an ass, has he never heard of deep battle? His awakening will be hilarious

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    Post  Isos Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:47 am

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    Post  Isos Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:48 am

    TMA1 wrote:

    Sorry for the whole quote but that video is fascinating. Look at the copper hoops attached to the suicide drone. Could these be wired to explode the shaped charge on impact with those copper hoops? Some sort of anti-grate measure?

    I have the feeling it's a DIY faraday cage to reduce jamming on frontal arc.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:53 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    What an ass, has he never heard of deep battle?  His awakening will be hilarious


    There's more in his column. But if he were irl a tank commander he knows but writes to earn his paycheck- presstitutes  like any other whores -live to satisfy paying client


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    Post  TMA1 Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:01 am

    If the Russians succeed in thoroughly thrashing the Ukrainians, Putin needs to give a speech to his people, telling them why they have been so silent through the conflict. Explain the geopolitics with brevity, and tell his people they are drawing a line in the sand. No more nation building. No more regime changes. No more wars for the domination of the neocons and neolibs who have hijacked the American government. Then he needs to make a plea to us in the west. Explain that our leaders are deluded and dangerous. That they are afraid of losing their grasp on world power and their dark and strange plans for the future.

    He needs to be honest about why Russia invaded. It isnt about nazis, which itself is true. It isnt about even Ukraine itself, which it definitely does play a main part. This is a war for the survival of all nations that refuse the demands of the "rules based" world order and the nationless, unpatriotic and rootless cosmopolitans who control it.

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    Post  Godric Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:23 am

    Ukraine has lost over 1200 troops as well as 40 tanks and other vehicles and 12 artillery systems

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:15 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote:
    What an ass, has he never heard of deep battle?  His awakening will be hilarious


    There's more in his column. But if he were irl a tank commander he knows but writes to earn his paycheck- presstitutes  like any other whores -live to satisfy paying client

    Does people teach history in the UK military ?

    I don't expect everypeople to be well-known in history but even amateur internet history researchers know well about Operation Bagration.

    What kind of education does an UK tank regiment receive ?

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    Post  Backman Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:55 am

    Check this out

    At 0:02 you can see the drone flying in just above the 2 buildings at a slow piston powered drone speed. Then at 0:3, it looks like it dove at warp speed into the target. It looks too fast to just be a aerodynamic dive.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:05 am

    Considering the numbers, Russkie need a lot of towing equipment ...

    Maybe that is the plan... send lots of super heavy western armour and leave it to be destroyed and then have the Russians break all their recovery vehicles trying to drag those albatrosses through the mud...

    Some western mine plough

    Looks like the vehicle pushing it cut and ran...

    What is the point here, is what seems to be the very best&trained Panzerkorps sent into the fire.

    What sort of training protects you from land mines, artillery and attack helicopters with long range ATGMs?

    We are talking about half a year assembling&training of the troops, that died without even seeing the enemy clear, in most of the cases.

    Super tanks that never fired a shot...

    Why are they just going in without regard to the mines?  

    That would be the tactic.... allow the enemy to drive deep into an existing minefield with their lead vehicle pushing rollers or a plough, and once they are all in... hit the last vehicle and then destroy the front vehicle with the mine plow and then just hit the column with artillery and mine the area behind them they approached from.

    You can wait to get picked off by artillery or suicide drones or perhaps nearby special forces with ATGMs, or you can risk driving out without a vehicle with a mine plough or rollers and hitting a mine yourself...

    You know buddy its easy to sit there and talk, about "why the dumb fucks do this"

    Mines would be banned already if they weren't so damn effective and useful.

    Whether they kill enemy vehicles or just direct the flow of their vehicles to places where you can kill them instead they are very useful...

    Tanks with the thickest frontal armour driving down the line of the battlefield presenting its side to the enemy because it is looking for a gap in the minefield is vulnerable to ATGMs from the enemy position.


    I think any army in the world right now (including Russia) would face the same issues under the same set of circumstances on the front line now.

    I would hope the Russians would at least prepare the terrain with TOS thermobaric rounds to set off some of the mines and then use mine clearance vehicles and equipment...

    Yet, he serves a talking head role.
    And he is one of the most experienced ones out there!
    Doesn't that scare you?

    A military person is professional and would say when they don't have the expertise in one area or another, but a civilian advisor has to be useful across a broad range of issues otherwise they get replaced... seems he is transitioning from military man to civilian advisor...

    Remotely lain mines are not hidden at all. If butterfly mines can be spotted and disposed off the larger and more inconspicuous AT mines can be detected and dealt with as well.

    On a sealed road yes, but rollers and ploughs on a sealed road won't protect from roadside mines, and of course visibility from tanks is generally very poor anyway.

    In long grass... no chance... and that is not even taking into account this:

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    Sorry for the whole quote but that video is fascinating. Look at the copper hoops attached to the suicide drone. Could these be wired to explode the shaped charge on impact with those copper hoops? Some sort of anti-grate measure?

    Possibly a shaped charge warhead and that wire presumably to ensure the correct standoff distance for the plasma beam to form.

    Suspect positive and negative wires that fire the warhead when crushed together..


    What an ass, has he never heard of deep battle? His awakening will be hilarious

    You can't claim to be the international community if you don't think you are the best...

    I have the feeling it's a DIY faraday cage to reduce jamming on frontal arc.

    To be a faraday cage it would need to have the protected electronics inside it, which would be where the protection from EM waves would be.

    It is a simple standoff fuse... like attaching a 1m long metal rod to the tip of a bomb to make the bomb go off before it buries itself in mud or snow...

    What kind of education does an UK tank regiment receive ?

    Seems to be more indoctrination than education... but then as General Melchett once said, education can go hang as long as the boy can bat and bowl and take a hot crumpet from behind without blubbing...    English private schools.... buggery central.

    Check this out

    At 0:02 you can see the drone flying in just above the 2 buildings at a slow piston powered drone speed. Then at 0:3, it looks like it dove at warp speed into the target. It looks too fast to just be a aerodynamic dive.

    Hahaha... seems they have dealt with defeat by making videos of the conflict R18...

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    Post  Isos Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:13 am

    To be a faraday cage it would need to have the protected electronics inside it, which would be where the protection from EM waves would be.

    It is a simple standoff fuse... like attaching a 1m long metal rod to the tip of a bomb to make the bomb go off before it buries itself in mud or snow...

    Not necessarly.

    Electronics inside the faraday cage is to protext them against EMP.

    Against jamming gaving just a "faraday wall" and not a cage can work since the jaming will be in front of the drone.

    Well, it can also be a fuze but it's a weired one.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:40 am

    GarryB wrote:
    What is the point here, is what seems to be the very best&trained Panzerkorps sent into the fire.

    What sort of training protects you from land mines, artillery and attack helicopters with long range ATGMs?

    It is not a point.
    My text is 36h old.
    Back then, there was still a denial stage all over here.
    All the shitstream, awaited a single shit to happen that would allow them to claim any kind of success.
    Either there was nothing about Ukrs offensive, or some small lines with a lack of any relevance.

    At the same time, Ukrowehrmacht trained in Germany and Poland, was advancing at a full swing with the best gear that NATO could supply.
    Those are not Polish/Czech 72M1s mad maxed with cages and ERA, assisted by rusty BMP-1 we shipped them in numbers.
    We talk L2A6 and Bradleys, with the newest MRAPs.
    We talk the elite Ukrs has sended to Germany and Poland for training half a year ago.
    "Elite" addresses to the fact that most of them are clear nazi.
    You don't use that for fun.
    It was a full-scale offensive, which is crystal clear at day 4.
    Do you know what the Polish shitstream is busy with now as we speak? Laughing
    Spreading Ukro fakes with "leaked Russian soldier msg to mother" about "perishing units".
    And fakes about "blocking humanitarian aid for flood victims".
    Thats it.
    There is no "offensive", day FOUR.
    In the meantime, half of the gear supplied for the last half a year is being busy with burning.

    Edit : holly shit, it is even better than that Laughing Laughing Laughing
    It is a supposed Russkie counteroffensive that failed due to lack of Russkie resources and manpower Laughing Laughing Laughing
    What a brilliant thoughts one can read in the western shitstream, if only dig deep enough, oh my oh my ...

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:40 am


    Well, it can also be a fuze but it's a weired one

    It is strange, but this is a FPV drone so someone is manually flying it and the targets are claimed to be two trucks and a Humvee, which are not particularly armoured vehicles so standoff detonation is not really critical for such targets.

    The "pilots" will have been told where the targets are and what they are so they are flying drones to attack these vehicles specifically.

    I was under the impression that to be effective a faraday cage had to be a very fine mesh that was specifically designed to be half the mesh width of the frequency it was protecting from and drones operate at 5 or 2 Gigahertz, and as such those bits of copper would be far too far apart to effect the signals...

    It was a full-scale offensive, which is crystal clear at day 4.

    Yes, questions were asked if they would just take all of Donbass and Lugansk or if Crimea was to be taken too... Smile

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    Post  nomadski Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:48 am

    Of course the Russian MOD , will now have a good idea about the results of this recon by defence ( Ukrs recon by offensive action ) carried out at Ukrs expense . They will know exactly the losses on both sides , territory lost or gained . They will then make calculations about forces needed to defend areas , and compare to available forces on both sides . It looks like the Russians now able to hold territory they control . So quality and quantity of defences seems adequate . In offensive operations , also they have shown to be capable by concentration of forces in smaller areas .

    I have no doubt that NATO will continue supply to the Orcs . These delivered to Poland first , then cross the River by Teleportation into frontlines ! The break- even point indicates relative losses or gains or efficiency . This should always be in favour , and if not then tactics should change . Learning as you go along . Destroying Bridges or Dams is retarded  obviously ! No army ever destroyed Bridges or Dams before ! Retarded lot .


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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:56 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Yes, questions were asked if they would just take all of Donbass and Lugansk or if Crimea was to be taken too... Smile


    Yeah, and there are some news from the night coming out ...
    Seems that Ukrowehrmacht tried even more than for the last 4 days.
    Advancing forces are reported to be even three times bigger.
    And all toasted.
    At this rate, I doubt if they have any L2 in working condition left, and that is just fine - would gladly see Ch2 turret beating the record now.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:09 am

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    All that left after an unsuccessful attack on 336th Marine Brigade of the Baltic Fleet positions...

    The guys were relaxed enough to make jokes while finishing damaged vehicles after Ukrs retreated...

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:34 am

    General Surovikin 🖤💛🤍
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    - - - <Why the Leopard fiasco is a much bigger blow to NATO than Ukraine> - - -

    The 31st brigade was trained by NATO up to NATO standards of a mechanised brigade. This means that they used NATO tactics and NATO weaponry. As it turned out, a single minefield and 2 helicopters (KA-52M) managed to disable half of a tank battalion and a single Bradley company using solely Vihr ATGMs without the enemy being able to engage the helicopters and the 1st line of defense. This fiasco will force NATO to change their strategy, since it clearly doesn't work against their main theoretical enemies - Russia & China. (China uses a very similar doctrine to Russia)

    Additionally those abandoned and damaged Leopard 2A6s make the tank absolutely worthless for the armies using them because Russia will be able to rest them and copy all the technology they had. But the US suddenly can't ship those M1A2s anymore for some reason, wouldn't that make them perfect for the European armies?


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    ❗It seems 🇷🇺 helicopters are firing "Vihr" (Whirlwind) AT missiles beyond their stated max range of 8 km

    On the screenshots, you can see the countdown to impact, although they've censored all the other indicators on the screen.

    25 seconds from launch to impact. The missile has a speed of approx 600m per second.

    So the distance is greater than 10 km...about 12km or more

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    - 20 of 35 Shahed kamikaze drones
    - 2 of 8 cruise/ballistic missiles
    - 12 recon drones
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