Russian special military operation in Ukraine #44

In the light of huge losses, more soldiers don’t want to die stupidly:

A whole platoon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered in the Avdiivka direction. The platoon commander of one of the 110th mechanized brigade units got in touch with the Russians. He wanted to save his personnel, since they had a lot of wounded, and their command refused to evacuate.

After negotiations, the full unit of the AFU drove on IFVs to the Russian troops. Help was provided to the wounded.

— Source RtrDonetsk

Godric wrote:

Russia needs to do to NATZO/America what the west are doing to them by arming there opponents and watch the bastards squeal, you reap what you sow, they wrongly accused Russia of arming the Taliban and EU rightly said there was no evidence, but the Americans still claim, they will know when Russia arms there opponents.

To take away from them the opportunity to be a global hegemon, and then watch them slowly turn into the world's political and technological backyards, becoming dependent on countries that they contemptuously call the "third world" is pleasure enough to become cold revenge. We will deprive them of the historical opportunity for development, and the winds of time will dispel any memory of the so-called "civilized West".
For me, this is sufficient satisfaction.

Keep watching and you will be rewarded. More than a Buk I suspect

According to the west, the "whole world" is against Russia.


Dubai

Comparison: St. Petersburg



Greetings from the front

Werewolf wrote:

Belisarius wrote:
Today in "aged like milk" news...
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/68688

I would say aged like Protein Shake in 40° celsius in a black toyota pickup truck in the open sun. The smell would kill ya!

Seig wrote:Well, thats if the Bradly was against armor but in this case, its not...so the context is much different, don't recall anyone claiming bradleys would run over mines like nothing and shrug off arty hits...or take atgms and be fine

The first part might be the case for BMP1 and semi-believable for BMP2, but the TOWs are useless by todays standard even for T-72B ERA equipped. They are garbage ATGMs and can only be launched from standing position. So the comment by itself is ridiculous even in head on head engagement with any soviet tank.

The latest variant of the TOW system, the BGM-71E, is designed to penetrate ERA equipped tanks with a tandem warhead. So i wouldnt feel safe in any T-72 thats for sure.
Hell even the 25mm bushmaster cannon could stop a T-72 if they hit it in the right place.

To WALLE83

Don't talk nonsense, please...
Before the start of SMO, the West wrote that Ukroshitstan has enough ATGMs to destroy EVERY SINGLE Russian tank.
As far as I can see, and I can see well, we are already seeing the "hunting" of Western tanks on the territory of Ukroshitstan.

Bradley with 25 mm ?
Just to remind you that even the older "Kontakt-5" is not activated until it is hit by a caliber greater than 30 mm...

"ERA does not detonate when hit by 7.62 mm and 12.7 mm bullets, fragments and 30 mm shells. VDZ has a higher resistance to high-explosive impact, compared to KnDZ."

http://btvt.narod.ru/4/kontakt5_.htm

The Leopard is just like the Tiger at Kursk. The wonderwaff that died.

This link was published by a German on the 9GAG network in March.
Typically western, arrogant and rude, as if on the other side of the front are Neanderthals with stone tools.
Underestimation seems to be innate...



ORIGINAL LINK...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2F9gag.com%2Fgag%2FaqeRBKj&psig=AOvVaw26XINC3sOjjRU9RzxV9BWq&ust=1686691439882000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCLie3rLVvv8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAF

Media: Armed Forces of Ukraine lost half of the BIS Leopard transferred by Finland, 06.12.2023.

HS: Ukrainian Armed Forces lost three of the six Leopard 2R BMRs transferred to them by Finland.

MOSCOW, June 13 - RIA Novosti. The Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat reported the loss by Ukrainian troops of three Leopard2R armored demining vehicles (BMRs), which Helsinki had previously handed over to Kiev.

Earlier, according to unconfirmed reports, it was reported that three Leopard 2R combat vehicles that Finland transferred to Ukraine were destroyed. Helsinki donated a total of six demining vehicles based on the German Leopard 2 tank.

As Helsingin Sanomat writes, the fact-checker of the publication confirmed the authenticity of images from the Zaporozhye region , which depict destroyed Finnish cars.

The Ministry of Defense of Finland on Monday, in an interview with YLE on Monday, declined to comment on the destruction in Ukraine of military vehicles transferred to Kyiv as part of military assistance.

Since February 2022, Finland has supplied Ukraine with 16 military aid packages worth about 1.1 billion euros.

https://ria.ru/20230613/leopard-1877700284.html

Ohh yeah 9gag military experts with copium on levels even Ukrainians are in a constant state of trying to figure out if someone is mocking them with absurdity or if they are serious and even to delusional for the Khokhol's taste.

Btw, no wonder the thread was closed for new comments. Didn't age well.

mnztr wrote:The Leopard is just like the Tiger at Kursk. The wonderwaff that died.

Tiger was much more impressive and much harder to destroy. It was a arch enemy of AT crews, tankists a prized target for IL-2 pilots. Leopard on other hand are as vulnerable as any other tank Ukraine operates. 

By the way, I suspected Ukraine will make more gains today. Russians need to hold them until they reach main defensive lines and loose as much steam as possible. So I am not worried about map changes until then

The Ukrop Pigs with the help of NATO NAZI Pigs are targeting high ranking Russian officers in the front. This cannot go unanswered.

Russia needs to start killing and vaporizing Ukrop and NATO NAZI generals in NATO occupied Ukraine.

Kill Ukrainian governors too starting with Vitali Kim

Mercuris was discussing the recent Putin speech (does anyone have a subtitled link? ) and says that Putin said pretty much: the military is free to conduct the war in any way it sees fit and that all restraints are off. This may mean the end of Ukraine as a state, it was not what he wanted, but events have developed in this way. Is this a fair interpretation? If so I am surprised its been so low key. This could mark a turning point. Essentially its the end of the SMO and now its a war.

CNN: Kyiv lost 16 American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, by Gleb Sotnikov f
Gleb Sotnikov for Rossiyskaya Gazeta. 06.12.2023.

Over the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have lost 16 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), CNN reported on Monday.

On the front line, Russian forces managed to destroy 15 percent of the American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles transferred to Kyiv. The Armed Forces of Ukraine use these vehicles to transport personnel and provide fire support.

On June 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in recent days the Armed Forces of Ukraine have suffered significant losses. All attempted counteroffensives failed. At the same time, the offensive potential of the troops of Kyiv is preserved, the head of state noted.

Earlier, CNN reported on the loss of equipment and personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the past few days. The armed formations of Ukraine did not expect such strong resistance from the Russian forces.

https://rg.ru/2023/06/12/cnn-kiev-poterial-16-amerikanskih-bmp-bradley.html

Not sure if anyone has posted this, if si I missed it, it's a video on the Ka-52 countermeasures.

mnztr wrote:Mercuris was discussing the recent Putin speech (does anyone have a subtitled link? ) and says that Putin said pretty much:  the military is free to conduct the war in any way it sees fit and that all restraints are off. This may mean the end of Ukraine as a state, it was not what he wanted, but events have developed in this way.   Is this a fair interpretation? If so I am surprised its been so low key. This could mark a turning point. Essentially its the end of the SMO and now its a war.

Why were there restraints the begin with?

The restraints were because of fighting between the pro destroy Ukraine faction and pro save Ukraine faction,  

There was open discussion of military and political options in the Duma

On one hand, Putin, Peskov, Medinsky, all favored a peaceful resolution to the war

And on the other hand Medvedev who said Ukraine should cease to exist , the governor of Belgorod Vyacheslav Gladkov (after belgorod battle), The Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense Yury Shvytkin also opined to annex Kharkov, the head of the State Duma Committee on Defense Andrei Kartapolov also agrees to expand the war, then you have various analysts and commentators who began to speak after Belgorod shelling, DRG penetration, Moscow hit by drones , and so on that it was necessary to carve more territory out

Putin immediately limited them, and May 30th said,

“Basically, the territory that is called Ukraine”, Putin said, using the geographic term instead of the political and legal one, “was virtually controlled from the very beginning by people who, being led by the West, took the path of not just confronting Russia, but creating an “anti-Russia” on that territory… We are striking at the territory of Ukraine, but with long-range precision weapons, at military infrastructure facilities only, either at ammunition or fuel and lubricants warehouses used for combat operations. We have talked about the possibility of striking at decision-making centres. Of course, the headquarters of Ukrainian military intelligence is one of them, and a strike at this target was carried out two or three days ago. In response, the Kiev regime has chosen a different path – attempts to intimidate Russian citizens with strikes at residential buildings. This is an obvious terrorist approach.”

So he says, it will not be any big arrows, only attrition strategy

BUT A week later June 9th, he makes a statement again:

“First, we can safely state that the offensive has begun. We know this from the fact that the Ukrainian army tapped its strategic reserves. This is my first point. Second, the Ukrainian troops failed to achieve their goals in all combat sectors, which is clear as day…I cannot say that the offensive has got bogged down. All I can say is that the counteroffensive attempts that have been made so far failed. But the offensive potential of the Kiev’s regime is still there. I believe Russia’s military leadership is realistic in its assessments of the situation and will proceed from these realities as it continues to plan up our actions in the short term.”

Putin has given reigns of the SMO completely to the generals,  he will not interfere in the Dnepr offensive

The political scales have tipped against his political solutions, and you have senior officials within the Duma which have parted from the peace dialogue

As Air defender ramps up, huge squadrons of Gripen, F18, eurofighter, and F35 will fly with tankers and AWACS cover missions for a Ukrainian general retreat across the Dnepr

The general staff is preparing for hybrid operations, similar to what happened with Nord stream during BALTOPS, that NATO will conduct distracting operations  to get Putin to hit the brakes

But it won't happen, the military solution is in effect, once Russian ground based radar see the NATO jets approaching,it will signal that the Ukrainian offensive is dead,

And ours will go west - where, I cannot say but we understand and proceed from the fact that a big change has happened in the mood of the Kremlin, the white house and all other players involved

At the same time, Air Defender will try to mask the general retreat by overloading the Russian air defense systems and by paralyzing all military actions , by forcing us to focus on NATO, and perhaps rogue Ukrainians in F16s Striking symbolic targets in Crimea

Remember Putin said, July 8th is the deadline for Nuclear Iskander introduction to Belarus

If we proceed from the fact that Air Defender 2023 will go on for that timeline, he will scare NATO off with the nuclear weapons , and perhaps counter drills of our own, as we go to a full nuclear readiness at the height of the NATO offensive operation

And then a general March west to protect Belgorod, Bryansk, And capitalize on the Zaporozhye defensive operation into a counter offensive one

ucmvulcan wrote:

Kiko wrote:CNN: Kyiv lost 16 American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, by Gleb Sotnikov f
Gleb Sotnikov for Rossiyskaya Gazeta. 06.12.2023.

Over the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have lost 16 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), CNN reported on Monday.

On the front line, Russian forces managed to destroy 15 percent of the American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles transferred to Kyiv. The Armed Forces of Ukraine use these vehicles to transport personnel and provide fire support.

On June 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in recent days the Armed Forces of Ukraine have suffered significant losses. All attempted counteroffensives failed. At the same time, the offensive potential of the troops of Kyiv is preserved, the head of state noted.

Earlier, CNN reported on the loss of equipment and personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the past few days. The armed formations of Ukraine did not expect such strong resistance from the Russian forces.

https://rg.ru/2023/06/12/cnn-kiev-poterial-16-amerikanskih-bmp-bradley.html

If CNN says 16 its probaby three or four times that many

Well, probably not a many, but surely more than 16.
So make it 20% of all delivered.
So think for a moment what does it mean.
They have lost almost all of the delivered L2A6, we can see it clearly on control records.
They have lost most of the demining vehicles assisting the heavy western gear.
They have lost 20% of all delivered M2s, and as those had been spread across several brigades, the losses apply only to those used directly - so will achieve a much higher % there.
It is the killing of an offensive spearhead. If the losses are so high, it means that those units are already out of order.
You can't get a 50% casualty ratio and keep rolling.
In some of the films, there are remains of something that I can identify as Slovenian T-55. Those has been assembled in a brigade with MaxxPro instead of heavier units, so I guess they thought about having lighter, more flexible unit - but this brigade seems to get its dose of vaccines, too.
Sure they have some +/-20 L2A4 left, and a battalion of Polish PT-91A ... but those won't do any better.
And what next?
A charge of a light brigade, with L1A5s?
Against fortified Russian defensive positions?
It is insane.

By the way, who else remembers of how the Russkie can only move forward, as they don't know how to do defensive operations?
Aged like milk, too

Pretty self explanatory. Because of political aspects. Military would have done things differently from the start to now, but then they wouldn’t be any manoeuvring when it comes to escalation and so on.

Leo 2A6 and Bradley engines still running...

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/68850

Arrow wrote:

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1668498674492620800?s=20

Fake!
But, but that twitter post said it would kill all Russian tanks with it's TOW in a head on head engagement!