Russian special military operation in Ukraine #44

More than 10,000 servicemen received payments for capturing AFU equipment
Ministry of Defense: more than 10 thousand military received payments for the destruction and seizure of equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


RIA Novosti / Gennady Dubovoy
Destroyed Ukrainian tank. Archive photo

MOSCOW, June 16 - RIA Novosti. Since the beginning of the special military operation in Ukraine, more than ten thousand Russian servicemen have received payments for the destruction or capture of enemy military equipment, the Defense Ministry said.
Last year, 7,064 Russian fighters received payments for destroying 11,586 units of Ukrainian and Western military equipment. And for the five months of this year - 3193 military personnel for 4415 units.

"Payments are made on the basis of orders from commanders of military units and are transferred to the personal financial accounts of military personnel. At the same time, there are no restrictions on receiving payments by military personnel from the number of enemy equipment they have already destroyed," the military department stressed.

So, this year the distinguished fighters were paid:

* 300 thousand rubles for each of the downed 45 Ukrainian helicopters and 71 aircraft;
* 300 thousand each - for the destruction of 15 launchers of the Tochka-U tactical complex and HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems;
* 100 thousand - for each of the many hundreds of armored vehicles;
* 50 thousand each - for 1501 combat armored vehicles, 203 self-propelled artillery installations and 85 MLRS installations;
* 50 thousand each - for the successful interception of 941 missiles fired by the Tochka-U, Alder (Olkha), Smerch, Uragan and HIMARS systems, as well as 1211 drones.

Military sailors, whose competent and prompt actions destroyed six naval drones that attacked Russian ships and civilian infrastructure in Crimea, received 200,000 rubles each, the Defense Ministry added.
Now in the Zaporozhye and South-Donetsk directions, payments are being made to fighters who destroyed German Leopard tanks and armored vehicles manufactured by the United States and other NATO countries.

https://ria.ru/20230616/vyplaty-1878522461.html

Sprut-B wrote:Sergey Karaganov: By using its nuclear weapons, Russia could save humanity from a global catastrophe

In 75 years of relative peace, people have forgotten the horrors of war, have stopped fearing even nuclear weapons. Everywhere, but especially in the West, the instinct for self-preservation has weakened.

I have spent many years studying the history of nuclear strategy and have come to an unequivocal, if unscientific, conclusion.
The advent of nuclear weapons is the result of the intervention of the Almighty, who, appalled that mankind had unleashed two world wars within a generation, costing tens of millions of lives, gave us the weapons of Armageddon to show those who had lost their fear of hell that it existed.
On that fear rested the relative peace of the last three-quarters of a century.

But now that fear is gone. The unthinkable in terms of previous notions of nuclear deterrence is happening – a group of ruling elites, in a fit of desperate rage, have unleashed a full-scale war in the underbelly of a nuclear superpower.

The fear of atomic escalation must be restored. Otherwise humanity is doomed.

The credibility of nuclear deterrence must be restored by lowering the unacceptably high threshold for the use of atomic weapons and by moving cautiously but quickly up the ladder of deterrence-escalation. The first steps have already been taken through statements to this effect by the president and other leaders, by beginning to deploy nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles in Belarus, and by increasing the combat effectiveness of the strategic deterrent forces.
There are quite a few steps on this ladder. I count about two dozen. It could even go as far as warning our compatriots and all people of good will about the need to leave their homes near the objects of possible nuclear strikes in countries directly supporting the Kiev regime. The enemy must know that we are ready to launch a preemptive retaliatory strike in response to its current and past aggression in order to prevent a slide into a global thermonuclear war.

I have often said and written that with the right strategy of deterrence and even use, the risk of a ‘retaliatory’ nuclear or other strike on our territory can be minimized. Only if there is a madman in the White House who also hates his own country will the US decide to strike in ‘defense’ of the Europeans and invite retaliation by sacrificing a hypothetical Boston for a notional Poznan. The Americans and the Western Europeans are well aware of this, they just prefer not to think about it.
We, too, have contributed to this recklessness with our peace-loving pronouncements. Having studied the history of US nuclear strategy, I know that after the USSR acquired a credible nuclear retaliatory capability, Washington never seriously considered using nuclear weapons on Soviet territory, even though it publicly bluffed. When nuclear weapons were considered, it was only against "advancing" Soviet forces in Western Europe. I know that the late Chancellors Helmut Kohl and Helmut Schmidt fled from their bunkers as soon as the question of such use came up in an exercise.

https://www.rt.com/russia/578042-russia-nuclear-weapons/

Long time I did not read such utter nonsense.
In modern times even small countries have technology, skills and resources to build nuclear weapons if they chose to do so. The biggest non proliferation treat is coming from the top, namely US, Russia and lately China. All of those big powers are not ready to give up nuclear weapons and are going through big modernization and expansion of those assets and thus fueling pressure to other countries to make their own deterrence.

The main point is - big powers have to adjust and but are not willing and not able to accept reality: they do not have monopoly any more on nuclear weapons and their authority and power is steadily eroded with the time.

Another very dumb point about article above is that the Author still thinks that Russia can rule others by fear. Those times are over also. And is result of USSR heavy suppressing and ruling East Europe for decades. East Europeans experienced stability and freedom past three decades, they will not yield to any nuclear or any other treat if they feel that their hardly won values are under the threat.

As soon as Russia starts to use nuclear weapons I can imagine Ukraine and Poland to develop their own programs in no time. Both countries have skills and will to do it if put under existential threat. To me Russia still does not understand what really means multipolar world for its own external ambitions.

There is excellent BBC article about Russian losses in the war: Counting Russia's dead

So far NGOs and volunteers in Russia identified an verified 25 000 dead, those include soldiers but also people that were in Wagner. Local separatists in Ukraine are not counted. The true number is not complete and is bigger, official number that Russia admits currently stands at 6000. Article explains huge Russian tradition to hide number of dead in war that goes way beyond what other countries are doing in similar situations - for me that is very interesting fact.

Again it looks like Ukraine is evolving to be indeed Vietnam for Russia.

The article isnt about instilling fear. In fact though it is obviously written to catch the attention of foreign viewers, it is speaking inward to the insanity of the neocon/neolib establishment and their dangerous hubris. Discussing giving Ukraine nukes, that they could regime change Russia and keep escalating until Russia relents.

If Russia feels so cornered that they must use nukes, it wont matter of poland or baltic states, ww3 will be in full swing and we are royally hosed. And it would be the neocon/neolib establishment to blame for the insane escalation. Nukes are a deterrent and weapon of last resort for a nation that feels existentially threatened. We are close in our blindness and pride to making Russia feel the need to use nukes. And the author is right that our establishment has forgotten the fear and horror of these weapons of doom. They think they can play nuclear chicken with Russia. This is insane. Our establishment is verging on insane and illegitimate use of power and escalation.

Frankly I think Russia should quietly detonate one of their nukes at one of their test ranges. To wake up the west that they have th em ready. Will wake up our fellow citizens that they will use them if need be and it is no bluff. I hear many, many nafo types even saying Russian "nukes wont work so let's not stop dialing up the pressure". Insane.

No this is not vietnam for Russia. For many reasons both complex and simple. I'll list one simple reason.

UKRAINE IS NEXT FU"%ING DOOR TO RUSSIA AND IS A MANIFEST PUPPET STATE YOU GOOF.

And the counting of dead, it sounds accurate. Now multiply that number seven to ten times for Ukraine.

d_taddei2 wrote:I agree the white supremacists issue within Russia as u said don't have a government/parliament link, or supplied with military training and weapons by the government like Ukraine does. Although the west will try to tell u that they do.

There are main differences between Russian nazis and Ukrainian

1. Russian nazis have no public or gov support, and they are prosecuted if they break the laws
2. They are not a popular, but extremely fringe movement that completely got scattered in mid 2000s
3. They have no leadership or even coherent ideology, unlike monarchist who are also weirdos
4. Usually only active online, post edgy memes on image boards and grow out of it at the age of 25 or so. Other option is to become dissident and collect multiple fines for spreading extremism and fighting for the dead ideology that will never get traction. 
5. Unlike in Ukraine, young people in Russia are not interested in any extreme movements as well and are not loaded with dogmatism

20 soldiers from 2nd battalion within the 28th mechanized brigade of the AFU have surrendered
to Ru forces after a failed offensive operation near the city of Horlivka in the DPR.



Update an the big counter offensive:

higurashihougi wrote:

mr_hd wrote:Again it looks like Ukraine is evolving to be indeed Vietnam for Russia.

Please don't compare the Maidan regime, puppet of the USA, as equal as the Vietnamese who fought against USA imperialism.

It is an insult to Vietnam.

If we are to compare the current conflict with the Vietnam War, we could say that the pro-Western Ukrainian sector is South Vietnam, Russia is North Vietnam and the pro-Russian Ukrainians are the National Liberation Front of Vietnam.

Or Nazi Ukraine is Khmer Rouge and Russia is Vietnam IMO.

d_taddei2 wrote:A bit off the current situation. Does anyone have any numbers or links to Info on numbers of neo Nazis fighting in Ukrainian forces. Any Info would be great. Just to note I know Russia does have a very minority groups of white supremacists issue within the country but I highly doubt any members of such groups would be enrolled into the armed forces of Russia.

It's amazing how many people in the west believe that the neo Nazi issue in Ukraine is a a very small minority and they firmly believe that more neo Nazis are within the ranks of Russian forces. Crazy I know so wanted to get some info together.

Any interest?

https://devend.online/2023/06/16/postwar-ukrainian-ss-galizien-division-criminal-members-were-refugees-in-britain-and-canada/

"Infantry sheds blood in liters."

Oleksiy Arestovych spoke about the reasons for the failure of the counteroffensive.
According to him, this happened due to the fact that the Russian military was given 9 months so that they could strengthen themselves.

“Even the American army will not take these fortifications,” was the assessment of 'Russian agent' Arestovych.



General Petraeus said they would penetrate the first line in 3-4 days, it's day 11 for reference

And ZNPP looks like death for them, even draining the banks, it's a muddy mess, theyl get stuck in the mud and blown to pieces, but this is Ukroisis we are talking about

WarZ

Neural networks control the guidance of the Lancets of the UAV-the Lancet kamikaze has long been the main means of counter-battery warfare of the Russian army. But
few people know why the Lancets are so effective. Let's try to open a little gray veil hiding the answers to these questions.

High-performance microcomputers on the Lancet kamikaze UAV and the reconnaissance UAV are used to operate the latest generation of neural networks in order to detect and classify targets. At the same time, both UAVs actively exchange results with each other in flight. For those who are not in the subject - let's explain what neural networks are. There is a chip on each drone. It provides the use of convolutional networks of the latest generation. Such networks are many times superior to human capabilities by recognizing visual images. What is a convolutional neural network?

So, a convolutional neural network is a class of networks that specializes in image and video processing. Such neural networks solve exactly two tasks well: they recognize objects and classify them. The Lancet reconnaissance UAVs and the Lancets themselves, using a convolutional neural network, are just engaged in recognizing and classifying targets on the battlefield.

Previously, there were rumors that "Lancets" are induced with the help of "Eagles". However, this is a mistake, even during the development of the complex, a special. The UAV is a scout. The scout is made according to the "flying wing" scheme. It is somewhat similar to the "Eagle", but specially adapted for the tasks of reconnaissance, recognition and classification of the object.

They soar in the sky on an almost silent electric motor for 5 hours. With the help of convolutional networks of the latest generation, such a reconnaissance UAV easily detects enemy targets and transmits images of identified objects to the Lancet high-performance microcomputer which in turn manages the priorities of the goals. According to the available information, neural networks best detect moving objects. They also perfectly recognize objects under disguise. But unfortunately, they still do not work well with the layouts of the equipment.

That's not all! Lancets use convolutional neural networks for visual odometry! What is visual odometry? In simple terms, this is the ability to navigate on the ground without GPS or GLONASS. The AI simply compares the images from the camera of the reconnaissance UAV with what is in the memory card. It's like a person who is second once he arrives at the place and says - Oh! I was here! There 's a cool cafe around the corner. That's why it's impossible to silence the Lancet's navigation with GNSS suppression. Because he doesn't need this navigation. Thanks to convolutional neural networks!

So, what we have. The neural network is engaged in the search and control of drones. Therefore, the operator can track several UAVs at once. After all, he does not need to direct or search for enemy objects and equipment - the operator only confirms the goals. A person has not been involved in search and recognition for a long time. There are better tools for this. It remains to say that NATO is also actively moving in this direction. However, they have not implemented artificial intelligence into existing kamikaze drones. Therefore, Western UAVs are easier to jam with ordinary Slaves. That's why you don't hear much about their use.

mr_hd wrote:There is excellent BBC article about Russian losses in the war: Counting Russia's dead

So far NGOs and volunteers in Russia identified an verified 25 000 dead, those include soldiers but also people that were in Wagner. Local separatists in Ukraine are not counted. The true number is not complete and is bigger, official number that Russia admits currently stands at 6000. Article explains huge Russian tradition to hide number of dead in war that goes way beyond what other countries are doing in similar situations - for me that is very interesting fact.

Again it looks like Ukraine is evolving to be indeed Vietnam for Russia.

25000 against the best trained NATO army in Europe. Yeah, that is about right. Thanks for proving that NATO estimates of 250,000 dead are a jumble of propaganda and that the Ukrainian numbers are probably 350000 to 500000. Did you think about that one shit head? A whole generation of Ukes dying out. The penis in your anus is lowering your expectations. Yeah you used to rejoice at fantasies of 250 thousand. Now you celebrate 25 000. You are a ridiculously stupid piece of sewage so the question is are you really this stupid or do you get paid to be?

Arkanghelsk wrote:

WarZ

Neural networks control the guidance of the Lancets of the UAV-the Lancet kamikaze has long been the main means of counter-battery warfare of the Russian army. But
few people know why the Lancets are so effective. Let's try to open a little gray veil hiding the answers to these questions.

High-performance microcomputers on the Lancet kamikaze UAV and the reconnaissance UAV are used to operate the latest generation of neural networks in order to detect and classify targets. At the same time, both UAVs actively exchange results with each other in flight. For those who are not in the subject - let's explain what neural networks are. There is a chip on each drone. It provides the use of convolutional networks of the latest generation. Such networks are many times superior to human capabilities by recognizing visual images. What is a convolutional neural network?

So, a convolutional neural network is a class of networks that specializes in image and video processing. Such neural networks solve exactly two tasks well: they recognize objects and classify them. The Lancet reconnaissance UAVs and the Lancets themselves, using a convolutional neural network, are just engaged in recognizing and classifying targets on the battlefield.

Previously, there were rumors that "Lancets" are induced with the help of "Eagles". However, this is a mistake, even during the development of the complex, a special. The UAV is a scout. The scout is made according to the "flying wing" scheme. It is somewhat similar to the "Eagle", but specially adapted for the tasks of reconnaissance, recognition and classification of the object.

They soar in the sky on an almost silent electric motor for 5 hours. With the help of convolutional networks of the latest generation, such a reconnaissance UAV easily detects enemy targets and transmits images of identified objects to the Lancet high-performance microcomputer which in turn manages the priorities of the goals. According to the available information, neural networks best detect moving objects. They also perfectly recognize objects under disguise. But unfortunately, they still do not work well with the layouts of the equipment.

That's not all! Lancets use convolutional neural networks for visual odometry! What is visual odometry? In simple terms, this is the ability to navigate on the ground without GPS or GLONASS. The AI simply compares the images from the camera of the reconnaissance UAV with what is in the memory card. It's like a person who is second once he arrives at the place and says - Oh! I was here! There 's a cool cafe around the corner. That's why it's impossible to silence the Lancet's navigation with GNSS suppression. Because he doesn't need this navigation. Thanks to convolutional neural networks!

So, what we have. The neural network is engaged in the search and control of drones. Therefore, the operator can track several UAVs at once. After all, he does not need to direct or search for enemy objects and equipment - the operator only confirms the goals. A person has not been involved in search and recognition for a long time. There are better tools for this. It remains to say that NATO is also actively moving in this direction. However, they have not implemented artificial intelligence into existing kamikaze drones. Therefore, Western UAVs are easier to jam with ordinary Slaves. That's why you don't hear much about their use.

Russia has some badass washing machines

JohninMK wrote:Seen many of these before but this is over 9 minutes of Lancet destruction.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1669442621272637441

Wow, actual unedited footage of Ukros getting hit where we can see what is happening and without cutting off?

Where was this all this time?

June 16, 14:08
Military operation in Ukraine
Pushilin said that the situation with the supply of drones has improved
Acting head of the DPR noted that drones will only be used more intensively

ST. PETERSBURG, June 16. /TASS/. The situation with the supply of unmanned aerial vehicles has improved today, they are sent to the region not only by the RF Ministry of Defense, but also by patrons and foundations. This was stated by the acting head of the DPR Denis Pushilin in an interview with TASS on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum.

"Deliveries [of drones] are much better now. Moreover, both <...> in the regular mode, that is, deliveries of drones to the armed forces, and additional opportunities are being used from various foundations, patrons, who also help certain units. This is constant assistance ", - he said.

Pushilin noted that drones will only be used more intensively, so the Russian side, in his opinion, needs to constantly work to improve both the characteristics of its drones and the ability to counter enemy drones.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18037227

Running out of gunfodder?

Leonid ХВ Ragozin
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A local media outlet in Ukraine’s Ivano-Frankivsk region has published what it claims to be a decree by the local military authorities ordering general mobilisation in the region, covering all men liable to military service. Alarming if true.

So, it seems like Ukraine faked an attack on Kiev today, by running sirens and firing AAA into the empty sky.

This to convince the visiting African delegation, RSA's representatives in particular (being BRICS and all), that Russia actually wants them dead or something.

They have done this before, eg when certain Hollywood celebrities (Sean Penn, Angelina Jolie among others) visited Lvov. They ran the air raid sirens and acted all panicky, when in fact no attack was ongoing, or even expected. Just insidious PR moves. Really quite low, but nothing's low enough for them.

Speaking of low, apparently Poland detained the security guys from the aforementioned RSA delegation.

Isos wrote:Russia isn't fighting a guerilla in a forest.

It's fighting a regular army in the open. Once its vehicles are destroyed the war will be lost for Ukraine and there won't be any guerilla there.

Ukrainian would rather flee in germany than do suicide missions.

More importantly, any Ukrop who has a passion for fighting Russia has had >12 months to find the courage or motivation to join up with like-minded goose-steppers, with full regime support. Once those fools are dead, the Ukrop army destroyed, the regime fallen, and the "nation" is lying in shattered pieces, there won't be anyone left who wants to fight the Russians.

Ukraine will be like Germany in 1946. A broken defeated husk with no will left to fight. Hopefully the Russians will properly de-nazify Ukraine this time, like was done to Germany post-GPW/WWII. Fool me once..

mr_hd wrote:...As soon as Russia starts to use nuclear weapons I can imagine Ukraine and Poland to develop their own programs in no time....

If Russia uses nuclear weapons Ukraine and Poland will be the first ones to glow in the dark

mr_hd wrote:...Both countries have skills...