Prigozhin mutiny thread

sepheronx wrote:I second KVS

Apparently the company behind Russia Gaye nonsense is owned and ran by Prigohzin.  He was compromised, especially when he was parroting US propaganda blaming Russia for this conflict and Ukraine was peaceful.

So it may be safe to assume the US had something on him and used him as an asset.

telegram Channel Geroman wrote:Yevgeny Prigozhin broke his silence. Summarizing what he said in his 12-minute speech:

- Wagner PMC has always acted in the interests of Russia worldwide. In Ukraine, the group achieved significant success.
- Due to intrigues and ill-conceived decisions, the PMC was supposed to cease to exist on July 1, 2023.
- Commanders refused to sign a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).
- The fighters who decided to join the Russian MoD did so, but it was a minimal number, around 1-2%.
- Despite Wagner PMC showing no aggression, they were hit by a missile strike, followed by helicopter attacks. Approximately 30 people were killed, and some were injured. This triggered the decision of the command council to move forward immediately.
- Within a day, Wagner covered a distance of 780 km. No soldiers were killed on the ground. We regret having to inflict horrors from the air, but they were dropping bombs and launching missile strikes.
- Within a day, all military facilities along the convoy's route were blocked. No Wagner PMC fighters were forced to join the campaign, and everyone knew its ultimate goal.
- The goal was to prevent the destruction of Wagner PMC and hold accountable those responsible for errors during the Special Operation (SO).
- Wagner PMC halted when it became evident that there would be significant bloodshed. The demonstration of what we intended to do was sufficient.
- Wagner PMC marched to protest, not to overthrow the government in the country.
- Lukashenko extended his hand and offered to find ways to continue Wagner PMC's work within legal jurisdiction.
- The events have revealed serious security problems in the country. Within 24 hours, the distance covered corresponds to the distance from the start of Russian forces on February 24, 2022, to Kyiv and from that point to Uzhhorod. Therefore, if the initial SO tasks were carried out by units trained at the level of Wagner PMC, the SO might have lasted only a day.
- It was a master class in how the Special Operation should have been conducted.

sepheronx wrote:His lying won't stop, and Luka is gonna have a problem on his hands.

kvs wrote:Prigozhin is being treated way too softly by the Russian government.   This indicates that there is an "oligarch" faction that has substantial
influence and has to be accommodated instead of exterminated outright.   Too bad.  I thought that in the last year we would have seen
the end of the Yeltsin era infiltration.   Maybe this purge is a work in progress, but we'll have to wait and see.

lyle6 wrote:I too, would have totally bought this half-cooked coup if only they didn't tip their hand by revealing Wagner is going to be exiled to Belarus...

Belarus, of all places on Earth!

What happened recently in Belarus anyhow? They only got fucking nukes, that's what!

So, in one fell swoop, Russia has a "rogue" and disavowed military actor that's just chilling within arm's reach of nuclear weapons...

You see where this is going?

Because that's exactly what NATO is trying to do with the AFU.

Putler's just faster on the draw as usual.

flamming_python wrote:Justice march?

Well that doesn't quite square off with the statements Prigozhin was making just before the latest drama how the Ukraine was an innocent victim of Russian aggression and about how the Russian authorities need to be overthrown or whatever it was

So it's just more Oscar-award acting from Prigozhin.

And of course this whole drama ends with him safely in Belarus and enough of Wagner intact. Like in any Hollywood production you know who's going to survive but you don't know how things will develop in between. Waiting for Series 3. Hopefully the march to Kiev because everything to do with this guy is a bit exhausting.

Wagner is kaput. The rest is history. Those who will decide to join Prigozhin (for now) in Belarus will live their remaining (not very long) lives in fear. When their end comes, they will know why and by who.

ALAMO wrote:There are more and more voices rising in Russia against any future recruitment among prisoners.
Soooo ... my guess is, that maybe it was not such a success as described ?

Erk wrote:The whole thing smells more like a publicity stunt rather than a coup to me.

It was solved too easily, and nothing really happened.

A coup is generally violent, eg. Maidan.