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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:01 am

higurashihougi wrote:Anydbody know about the fate of Staso-Preobazhensky Catherdal in Odessa ?

There have been a clip circulated on internet showed that an explosion already occured before the appreance of a yellow dot on the sky (which is intepreted as an incoming Russian missile).

Pro-Maidan Kiep claimed that Russian sent two missiles to the Odessa Catherdal, but oppossing opinions intepreted it as a Maidan AA missile hit the catherdal instead of intercepting the incoming Russian missile.

I am not surprised if the criminal Maidan regime AA batteries hit their own people again as they have done before, still, any experts know what happened ?

Usual PR stunt.
It was obviously not hit by Ch-22. Only relatively small damage was taken, way too small for a tone warhead.

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And, surprise surprise, what can we collect inside?

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Oh ... can it be ... oh ... no way !

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lancelot Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:10 am

Big_Gazza wrote:AFAIK 4G+ jets (from any nation) can't supercruise, at least not to any worthwhile degree. Gripen has been spun as a "Sukhoi killer" but its just empty hot air and marketing bullsht.

Eurofighter can supercruise at like Mach 1.2. The EJ200 engine has turbine inlet temperature and thrust-to-weight ratio figures not that far from F119 engine in F-22. The Rafale can do the same.

It might not be much but at least it is better than what the F-35 can do with its clunky airframe.

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Arrow Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:14 am

Apparently, the Su-35S can also fly just over 1M without afterburner? Although it is only Izd 30 engine that is a real game changer.

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:15 am

Su-35 can supercruise, so not sure what you are discussing aside from the fact that a whole thing was pushed by a zoo exhibit.

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:59 am

ALAMO wrote:
Oh ... can it be ... oh ... no way !

Oh yes it can and photo of the handful of cubes should never have passed the censor as it is the giveaway.

Also there is a video out there of the explosion and it follows the track of a SAM to the church which is lit up by it.

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:13 am

Keep in mind John that the give a round shit about that. Western shitstream will tell all they demand about the event. This halfbrain Klichko was parading with Buk-M1 warhead fragments showing them as proof that Russkie hit a highscraper. Or the broken body of BETAB bomb presented as Kinzhal.
Only thing that makes me wonder is the size and composition of this fragments.
9N314 warhead of Buk contains two types of fragments, smaller and bigger, yet all cubes.
9N314M of later modification has three - two cube of a different size and "butterfly", so all three of them.
I could not find 5Zh93 warhead fragments, so I have no idea what type of it carries.
My guess is, that it was 5V55 that hit the cathedral - one type of fragments exclude both types of Buk missiles Ukrs have.

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higurashihougi Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:16 am

ALAMO wrote:And, surprise surprise, what can we collect inside?

Oh ... can it be ... oh ... no way !

I have to admit that it took a while for me to realize it is not "3RK", but ZRK (Зенитный ракетный комплекс) pwnd

- well I cannot read Russian pwnd

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:19 am

Did someone leave some 'stuff' behind from when it was trading between Turkey and Odessa?

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The FSB announced the discovery of explosives in the hold of a ship en route from Turkey to Russia

The agency will check all ships that go through the Kerch Strait.

Counterintelligence officers said that on July 22, traces of explosives were found in the hold of a ship heading to Rostov-on-Don from Turkey during an inspection while loading grain. Also, experts revealed the facts of interference in the design of the ship. In May, this ship was in the port of Kiliya in Ukraine. In June, the ship completely changed the crew, which previously consisted of citizens of Ukraine. This happened in the port of Tuzla in Turkey.

All this may indicate, according to the FSB, that someone could use a foreign vessel to deliver explosives to the territory of Ukraine. The ship was banned from passing through the Kerch Strait and left the Russian Federation.

Also, to prevent sabotage and terrorist attacks, the FSB will intensify inspections of ships that pass through the Kerch Strait

#source
@Slavyangrad

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:51 am

Not just hitting the grain exports etc out of Odessa.

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This night, an almost 4-hour attack by Geran drones was directed at the port infrastructure of the Danube in the Odessa region

Hangar destroyed as a result of hits grain storage, administrative buildings and port infrastructure were damaged

#source
@Slavyangrad

Reni Commercial Sea Port is a port located on the left bank of the Danube River. It is an important transport hub of Ukraine, in which the work of river, sea, road and rail transport is closely intertwined.

Yesterday it was considered as an alternative to Odessa and was planned to be used for exporting grain.

In the city of Izmail, Odessa region, explosions thundered at night

The city has a large commercial port of international importance, located on the coast of the Danube River, writes the First Kharkov.

The port can receive ships with a length of up to 150 m, a width of 30 m, a draft of 6.5 - 7.0 m.

In the port of Reni, tanks with Romanian oil were hit - this is the main source of raw materials for Ukrainian refineries. The infrastructure of the Danube port was also destroyed.

It is difficult to overestimate the significance of the destroyed targets - this is not about grain, but about the supply of Western weapons and fuels and lubricants to Ukraine.

@Slavyangrad

https://twitter.com/i/status/1683410421120679936

https://twitter.com/i/status/1683371730570473472

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:00 pm

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A series of powerful explosions in Berislav.

It appears that with the help of KAB-500 and FAB-250/500 aerial bombs, the clearing of positions, deployment points and ammunition depots of the Ukrainian armed forces in the industrial zone of the Beryslav machine-building plant and the coastal strip on the right bank of the Dnieper River is continuing.

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Hole Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:11 pm

Oh ... can it be ... oh ... no way !

Western MSM:
Ukros would never hit a church!
They´re strong believers, unlike the godless russian commies!
And their President is a Jew!
angel

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:17 pm

Hole wrote:

Oh ... can it be ... oh ... no way !

Western MSM:
Ukros would never hit a church!
They´re strong believers, unlike the godless russian commies!
And their President is a Jew!

That is correct. A final argument is that there can't be nazis there.

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zare Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:21 pm

Supercruise is not a thing, it's a marketing term invented by Americans in the 80s when requirement for ATF was sustained supersonic flight without afterburner as a means to keep the thermal signature low.

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:28 pm

It is not a thing, as long as you have it Very Happy

Just like the case if one needs a big di#ck or not.
No, actually it does not need to be big, if it is only long and thick. Laughing

Jokes aside, take a look at this :

https://t.me/intelslava/50149

A full pimp my ride set, with Nakidka and additional optical dazzling camouflage net.

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Airbornewolf Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:56 pm

Northwest of Artemovsk, failed assault attempt on RF positions

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Northwest-of-Artemovsk,-failed-assault-attempt-on-RF-positions:1

RF troops in close quarters battle in Ukrainian trench.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-troops-in-close-quarters-battle-in-ukrainian-trench.:1

RF Lancet strike on Ukrainian Leopard 2

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-Lancet-strike-on-Ukrainian-Leopard-2:b

failed ukrainian assault near the village of Workino, Zaporozhye region

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/failed-ukrainian-assault-near-the-village-of-Workino,-Zaporozhye-region:8

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:52 pm

Something interesting from Politico. Data obtained from custom declarations.

Russia imported unmanned aerial vehicles (drones) worth over $100 million from China this year, which is 30 times more than what Ukraine imported.
Moreover, China exported 69% more ceramics used in body armor to Russia, amounting to over $225 million.
In contrast, China's ceramic exports to Ukraine plummeted by 61%, reaching a total of only $5 million.

As I already said, China sided up with Russia in this war for good. Only do that in a subtle way. There are a lot of things they can supply, easing the job for Russian MIC.

I can bet a golden rubel that the same goes for Iran.

The Russian defense industry is now producing more weapons in a month than in the whole last year, - Manturov

and

However this still isn’t the peak. The Russian MIC is looking for additional 16.000 specialists to expand production even further.

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GarryB Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:59 pm

Just saw this article and it says Russian jets don't have the ability to supercruise. I want to know is that true? And should Russia be concerned with the Ukraine obtaining the Gripen jet?

Hahaha... hilarious... their side is getting creamed but they think the ability of Russian aircraft to fly at supersonic speeds without using after burner makes any difference at all.

Even if the west gave them F-35s what exactly is a small number of totally unfamiliar fighters going to do without all the support platforms they normally operate with get on?

They would be dead no matter what shiny badge is fitted to them.

A small hint... no aircraft on the planet can supercruise at low altitude and any aircraft flying at medium to high altitude over Ukraine is dead whether it is flying subsonically, hovering, or flying at mach 4.

Eurofighter can supercruise at like Mach 1.2. The EJ200 engine has turbine inlet temperature and thrust-to-weight ratio figures not that far from F119 engine in F-22. The Rafale can do the same.

They can't do it at low altitudes and trying at medium or high altitudes will definitely get them shot down over Ukraine.

9N314 warhead of Buk contains two types of fragments, smaller and bigger, yet all cubes.
9N314M of later modification has three - two cube of a different size and "butterfly", so all three of them.

You sure? I seem to remember that the butterfly fragments found in that airliner that Kievs forces shot down was used as proof that the Orcs did it because they used the old model system that was only used by the Orcs, the Russians no longer using that model and the newer models they did use only had cubes.

Putin was talking about a new grain deal with the countries of Africa and Asia and central and south America that the original grain deal with the west was supposed to help. Sounds like Russia is going to supply them with grain and fertiliser and they are going to supply ships and insurance to move the products...

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:27 pm

GarryB wrote:
You sure? I seem to remember that the butterfly fragments found in that airliner that Kievs forces shot down was used as proof that the Orcs did it because they used the old model system that was only used by the Orcs, the Russians no longer using that model and the newer models they did use only had cubes.

Yes I am sure.
Ukraine operates both Buk and Buk-M1 systems with respectively 9M38 and 9M38M/M1 missiles. As the missiles are exchangeable, both can be used for M1 variant.
But the version of a missile was never contested by any serious sources. The case of origin of the missile that struck MH17 is closed - it was a Ukrainian-owned missile operated by a named unit from Lvov region. All with details and official archives.
The sole thing in dispute is who operated the system.
Actually, the most dust&mirrors was made there to deny it was Ukrainian, and authored by the Billingcat thugs.

What only Russians are using, are Buk-M1-2 and following systems, that are using 9M317 missile with 9M318 warhead that contains only one size cubic fragments.

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Airbornewolf Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:50 pm

the Gestapo in Odessa might be hunting everyone that holds a camera when the explosions start happening.

But not the Romanians Razz

RF geran Drone strikes on Reni commercial sea port on the Danube,Odessa region. 24th of July.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-geran-Drone-strikes-on-Reni-commercial-sea-port-on-the-Danube,Odessa-region.-24th-of-July.:0

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kvs Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:01 pm

So a Wikipedia entry on the Odessa cathedral was revised to claim a Russian missile had hit it, before the event occurred. So this was not
collateral damage by an Ukr SA missile but a deliberate attack on an Orthodox target by the Kiev regime. We also see that it is the Ukr
freaks who are using SA missiles to deliberately attack ground targets.

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mnztr Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:06 pm

zare wrote:Supercruise is not a thing, it's a marketing term invented by Americans in the 80s when requirement for ATF was sustained supersonic flight without afterburner as a means to keep the thermal signature low.

So are you saying it has no benefit? there are other ways to achive it, sure. Like mig-25 did. But sustained supersonic speed does have tactical value.

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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #46 - Page 16 Img_2310

The number of published applications of the Lancet in July 2023 is steadily approaching 100.
In the last few days, from 5 to 10 new strikes with this loitering ammunition have been published daily.
https://t.me/lost_armour/1277

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ALAMO Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:20 pm

Russkie determined to run out of ...
Laughing

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:41 pm

zare wrote:Supercruise is not a thing, it's a marketing term invented by Americans in the 80s when requirement for ATF was sustained supersonic flight without afterburner as a means to keep the thermal signature low.

Then they got the F-35 so Marketing quietly buried the term Laughing

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JohninMK Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm

ALAMO wrote:Something interesting from Politico. Data obtained from custom declarations.

Russia imported unmanned aerial vehicles (drones) worth over $100 million from China this year, which is 30 times more than what Ukraine imported.
Moreover, China exported 69% more ceramics used in body armor to Russia, amounting to over $225 million.
In contrast, China's ceramic exports to Ukraine plummeted by 61%, reaching a total of only $5 million.

A small help for the trade imbalance due to NG supplies.

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