Russian special military operation in Ukraine #47

Godric wrote:The Hahols claim they have landed a force on Crimea near the towns of Olenivka and Mayak and videoed themselves flying the flag of Ukraine, they also claim they engaged in combat, more than likely it was pro Ukraine locals in Crimea who staged it, but if it is true they did land in Crimea then it's a big security headache for the Russian Federation

Somehow I don't think that's what the West imagined when Kiev promised them it would fly the Ukrainian flag in the Crimea.

But just like them to have such a 'plan B', and get so many of their own people killed for even that.

Allow them to savour this pathetic moment.

sepheronx wrote:So you guys think Russia never thought of any of this, right?

That you think Russia has no plans, no ideas and that all their generals are stupid compared to you guys, right?

seems to be the case, after all stuff from the west seems to be flowing too the front with no difficulty whatsoever. Maybe thats why they got rid of Surovikin.

How many men died for this flag moment?

Russia should open a front in North America via Alaska right into Canada and proceed south to the US border, not necessarily a full fledged invasion but an operation similar to Crimea.

Then we will see how long US can support Ukraine.

That is ww3.

Many are not aware at all what is going on. The western elites are dangerously deluded. The warmongers are already in control. Doesnt matter who is in office anymore. The true candidates are silenced or even thrown into prison. You guys dont know or realize how threatened the neocon/neolib elites truly feel.

I fear they would rather ww3 to happen then to lose any of their power. The things they have done to get into power cannot be allowed to see the light of day. No foreign power mist be allowed to question their hegemony.

We are in uncharted territory. Times so dangerous they make the cuban missile crisis look tame in comparison.

Why not SBU or other sabotage agencies directoriates ? they are special or what?

They need to be having a big meeting with all the important people being there at the time for the attack to be useful and effective.

Give them time.

Would be like hitting the RADA when there are no officials present....

...and they still managed to run out of fuel

An important lesson and I am sure they took it on board.

They are not perfect but they do learn from mistakes and problems and adapt their tactics and equipment when it makes sense to do so.

Washington is reportedly “frustrated” with Kiev’s reluctance to follow its advice in the conflict with Russia

Yes, Washington has out thought Russia on every occasion so why isn't Kiev trusting their amazing views on defeating Russia in land combat in Europe with amazing super weapons of the west... Leopards, Challengers, nothing the same and no parts in common... not even their guns, and soon you will get Abrams tanks once the Americans have removed everything that is useful from them...

Maybe Kiev might work out that listening to Washington from the start was their problem... or not.

The Hahols claim they have landed a force on Crimea near the towns of Olenivka and Mayak and videoed themselves flying the flag of Ukraine,

Claim being the operative word. Dropping a few people on a beach for a photo shoot... the are the Kardashians of war... so I guess that means Mexico owns the southern US states considering the number they have there... an invasion force really isn't it?

Oh look at this, no so defiant anymore, are we?

They are soldiers, they followed orders. They would hardly be part of any discussion about taking over the Russian military.

Now their boss is gone so they need to find a new income so signing a contract with the Russian Army makes sense for them.

Why are you so surprised?

Its just another propaganda victory, but so what? Its pathetic really.

Worse than that, it s not really a propaganda victory... it is like saying you are going to win the New York marathon and taking photos of yourself crossing the finish line... three nights after the event in the dark on your own. And the cost for such a joke of an achievement is some of your best men whose lives you clearly are happy to just throw away on BS nonsense.

some sources supposedly say Ukraine has 9-11 million men suit for military age, if that is the case than its going to be a repetitive cycle where the season turns muddy, and Ukraine gets

Haha, not if they don't change their tactics and keep getting killed in hopeless pointless attacks... the patient is on life support and when the plug is pulled all the rats and mice that were pulling strings making it appear like the patient was alive will run away and the dead rotting corpse will remain, and those western countries that were investing in the success of Kiev will start asking the US to foot their bills and the US will be demanding Europe foots the bill... and who knows what will start up in Asia or Africa...

even if Russia gets to keep Odessa(no idea how long that will take) and Ukraine still has some control over western Ukraine it is considered a Russian loss and a NATO victory

No matter what HATO is going to declare victory, but Russia will have neutralised a real threat on their border in the form of Zelensky and Poroshenko, and the number of nazis in Europe took a real dip.

Of course all the real nazis are in the US... north and south but they will get theirs... or they will live long enough to realise they were wrong.

Sure, Russia has about 15 more months to finish this thing, but I just know the longer this war lasts the more likely it is for US officials to call for troop involvement and the more likely it is that this thing goes nuclear.

US dead bodies might be what it takes to end this... amusing you think US bodies are so precious, ignoring the bodies piling up as just europeans and not a problem...

The US wont go nuclear over this in Europe where no HATO country has been attacked yet.

seems to be the case, after all stuff from the west seems to be flowing too the front with no difficulty whatsoever. Maybe thats why they got rid of Surovikin.

All those grain trucks taking grain from farms across Ukraine... don't you wonder what is probably inside them when they head back to those farms to pick up more grain... do you think it was any different with those grain ships arriving in Ukrainian ports to load grain on board... do you think they arrived empty?

We have seen photos of trucks with armoured vehicles inside, do you think they only do that for vehicles?

All the trucks delivering food and supplies to the people living near the front will also contain all sorts of other stuff... every time...

Russia should open a front in North America via Alaska right into Canada and proceed south to the US border, not necessarily a full fledged invasion but an operation similar to Crimea.

The US has lots of military bases all round the world... arming locals who are not happy with their presence with new drone technology and a few RPGs and a few Stinger missiles would be very interesting.

Doesnt matter who is in office anymore. The true candidates are silenced or even thrown into prison.

Which makes things worse because those in power now know that when opposition candidates get into office they can turn around and do the same to them and their skeletons are much worse than paying a prostitute and not paying taxes...

mnztr wrote:

sepheronx wrote:So you guys think Russia never thought of any of this, right?

That you think Russia has no plans, no ideas and that all their generals are stupid compared to you guys, right?

seems to be the case, after all stuff from the west seems to be flowing too the front with no difficulty whatsoever. Maybe thats why they got rid of Surovikin.

Who told you it's flowing to the front with no difficulty?

Do you expect the Ukrainian regime or maybe NATO to provide you weekly reports, or photographs of all hit convoys or bombed logistical hubs?

TMA1 wrote:That is ww3.

Many are not aware at all what is going on. The western elites are dangerously deluded. The warmongers are already in control. Doesnt matter who is in office anymore. The true candidates are silenced or even thrown into prison. You guys dont know or realize how threatened the neocon/neolib elites truly feel.

I fear they would rather ww3 to happen then to lose any of their power. The things they have done to get into power cannot be allowed to see the light of day. No foreign power mist be allowed to question their hegemony.

We are in uncharted territory. Times so dangerous they make the cuban missile crisis look tame in comparison.

Why do you think Russia has ramped up its tank, aircraft, missile, shell, etc.. production many times over, beyond what can possibly be needed to destroy the Ukrainian army?

Of course they've come to that conclusion in fact not long after the start of the operation.

People like Arkhangelsk here know this, yet they still insist on some blitzkrieg operation to grab more territory and a 'freeze' to the conflict, or for Russia to be defeated and then have to make concessions in return for a cease-fire. Maybe he's hoping that his ass will be too old to be drafted by the time the war resumes. Afraid that's unlikely.

I'm speaking from the point of view of the worst case scenario. But that's the scenario that military professionals always consider and plan for and it's the same for both NATO and Russia this time too. Which means it could turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy even if no-one wants it. Doesn't matter. Still have to take all possible measures to prepare yourself.

What's the situation in Rabotyne? Have the orcs taken the village?

Seems to be an all out effort underway.

Moon of Alabama
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It took 10+ brigades, 20-35,000 men?, to take
Robotyne (population, 2001 census, 480).
How many more such victories can Ukraine sustain?

Nikolai
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Rabotino. The AFU have launched a large assault but Russian artillery and aviation are working non stop.

The situation in the Zaporozhye direction at 10:00

"Rabotino / Robotyne - A "Bradley" has now reached the southern outskirts of the settlement, our artillery has worked precisely on it, the second "Bradley" was destroyed at the entrance by an ATGM crew.

They didn't manage the job!
Also 1/3 of the village is in our control.
It turns out that in the southern outskirts there is no enemy there and they are not entrenched."

Archangel of the Special Forces
8:07 AM · Aug 25, 2023
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GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
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more or less - by bypassing Robotyne

Safety first when it comes to our guys

Don't try to hold Robotyne 'at any cost' when faced with overwhelming numbers of Ukrainian suicide charges. A defence only makes sense to hold when you can maintain firepower superiority or equivalence.. or are forced to hold it to avoid compromising other positions, logistics routes, buy time for other units or whatever - but there is no such situation for Russian forces at the moment anywhere there.

Otherwise it's better to slowly withdraw than risk encirclement or running out of ammo. There is always a smarter way to do things given Russia's capabilities. For example the same ATGM crews and Ka-52s sniping at stand-off range while the enemy continues to hurl forces into the village or the open ground around it

A large batch of FPV drones are waiting to be sent to the front.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/60262?single

Add another property to the list

https://punchng.com/luxurious-villa-owned-by-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyys-family-discovered-on-egyptian-coast/?amp

By then , the chubs would have cobbled together a 4th army. 

Highly unlikely. NATO is scratching at the bottom of the barrel.

There is always a smarter way to do things given Russia's capabilities.

That village and 2 or 3 others were "taken" multiple times in the last weeks. At least partially.
Russian Army retreats a little, bombs the shit out of the Ukros and then comes back, puts the
settlement in a half encirclement and the surviving Ukros run away.

These villages are mini-meatgrinders.

JohninMK wrote:Add another property to the list

https://punchng.com/luxurious-villa-owned-by-ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyys-family-discovered-on-egyptian-coast/?amp

Probably where they filmed the flag-raising in the Crimea

In the pool-tub

flamming_python wrote:
Somehow I don't think that's what the West imagined when Kiev promised them it would fly the Ukrainian flag in the Crimea.

But just like them to have such a 'plan B', and get so many of their own people killed for even that.

Allow them to savour this pathetic moment.

they are desperate for any sort of win, they know the writing is on the wall, they just refuse to read it.

America does not like competition before WW2 they intended to invade Canada to draw the British Empire into the conflict so that the USA could replace them as the number 1 power, the rise of Hitler stopped the invasion, then there was Japan, Japan in the early 1990s were close to taking over the number 1 economy, thus America put pressure on Japan that has basically caused 3 decades of economic stagnation, Obama had a problem with Putin because he didn't follow the narrative that the US President was the leader of the free world that and America was losing influence over the EU to Russia, so a wedge had to be driven between Russia & the EU and EU fell for the trap the 2012 Vladivostok to Lisbon free trade zone proposed by Putin set alarm bells ringing in Washington, thus Ukraine was chosen to be the sacrificial lamb.

And with China fast catching up to the US economy all the Anti China stuff has came out by America with threats of sanctions to countries and companies that do business with China and it's tech firms ... they are prepared to go to war to stop China being the number 1 economy

in short they don't give a shit who they destroy, they've fucked up the German economy and by doing so they have fucked up the EU economy, America still holds half of Germany's gold reserves and refuse to repatriate it, Germany can't decouple from America until it gets it's gold reserves back

They are prepared to go to war to stop China being the number 1 economy

That ship left the train station long ago. 

 Germany can't decouple from America until it gets it's gold reserves back

If I had something to say I would take that loss.

Zlatti71
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Greece terminates the contract with Russia for technical support and maintenance of the Tor-M1 and Osa-AKM air defense systems

A "top secret" document about this was mistakenly published in parliament, writes the pronews portal. gr.

The publication notes that the already available spare parts will last only a few months and that the authorities thereby "throw into the trash" a billion euros.

Apparently, these systems are being prepared for transfer to Ukraine.

Greece is one of the regular suppliers of military assistance to the Zelensky regime, undeservedly being in the shadow of his larger allies.

Athens traditionally trades in arms through gray schemes. From Alexandroupolis, containers with weapons are transported by road and rail to Romania, and from there to the Ukrainian theater of operations.

The reason for the sharp change in Greek foreign policy from neutral to Russophobic is the desire to strengthen its position in the Aegean and Southern Europe as a whole

Hole wrote:

 Germany can't decouple from America until it gets it's gold reserves back

If I had something to say I would take that loss.

You can't loss something that is not even there.
Just enjoy the Ukropistan gold unloaded in Frankfurt a few years ago, that's all you can add to the books

Godric wrote:they are desperate for any sort of win, they know the writing is on the wall, they just refuse to read it.

America does not like competition before WW2 they intended to invade Canada to draw the British Empire into the conflict so that the USA could replace them as the number 1 power, the rise of Hitler stopped the invasion, then there was Japan, Japan in the early 1990s were close to taking over the number 1 economy, thus America put pressure on Japan that has basically caused 3 decades of economic stagnation, Obama had a problem with Putin because he didn't follow the narrative that the US President was the leader of the free world that and America was losing influence over the EU to Russia, so a wedge had to be driven between Russia & the EU and EU fell for the trap the 2012 Vladivostok to Lisbon free trade zone proposed by Putin set alarm bells ringing in Washington, thus Ukraine was chosen to be the sacrificial lamb.

And with China fast catching up to the US economy all the Anti China stuff has came out by America with threats of sanctions to countries and companies that do business with China and it's tech firms ... they are prepared to go to war to stop China being the number 1 economy

in short they don't give a shit who they destroy, they've fucked up the German economy and by doing so they have fucked up the EU economy, America still holds half of Germany's gold reserves and refuse to repatriate it, Germany can't decouple from America until it gets it's gold reserves back

Germany and Japan are the US's lackeys in the first place, the US can do whatever it wants to bully or manipulate them.

That was never going to fly with either Russia or China. If they want a war that bad, that's what they'll get

Replacing 2 top heads of the military operation in a short span of time makes it look like they cant complete the current objectives of the war the higher ups need from them, so I wish to hear their side of the story of why that is?

The view from the top of the Pentagon

Sprinter
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The Chief of the Joint Staff of the US Army, Army General Mark Milley, believes that the Ukrainians broke through the first and main defense line of the Russian army on the southern section of the front
He added that now it should go faster, because the Russian army failed to mine the other two reserve lines of defense in the same way, and to build adequate fortified facilities, anti-tank trenches and dragon's teeth.
** The American general believes that the Russian army has largely exhausted its reserves on the southern part of the front, where operations will continue until the end of this year.


Whilst closer to the action there is a different view.

Sprinter
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Russian aviation stopped the Ukrainian attack near Robotin

Thanks to the attack of the Russian aviation on the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the settlement of Rabotino near the Zaporozhye region, the enemy's offensive, which was expected last night in this direction, was prevented, said the adviser to the leader of the DNR Jan Gagin, reports

"Ukrainian forces concentrated about 100 pieces of equipment and a large amount of manpower near Rabotin. We expected that there would be an offensive in this direction this night, but, apparently, after the airstrike, they are dressing their wounds and at least temporarily gave up these plans" , Gagin added.

Are they using the agriculture mine launcher systems yet in the operation to fill the place up with mines again in case they want to launch another offensive? Or is it too risky of getting hit by Ukrainian MLRS systems? That system would be a God send if they keep throwing alot of equipment in the direction of robotyne

sepheronx wrote:

mnztr wrote:

sepheronx wrote:So you guys think Russia never thought of any of this, right?

That you think Russia has no plans, no ideas and that all their generals are stupid compared to you guys, right?

seems to be the case, after all stuff from the west seems to be flowing too the front with no difficulty whatsoever. Maybe thats why they got rid of Surovikin.

No difficulty?

Warehouses and ammo depots have been destroyed countless of times already.

its great to do that, but much better to prevent them from getting to the warehouse.

Not fair to pin the blame on Surovikin, the guy was told to behave and how to conduct this war from Putin. When your hands are tied and your options greatly limited, well there is limits.

Putin is still clearly saying they fight this war in an uphill manner, the fact Ukraine still has running water in Keiv is an example of this.

I am sure Surovikin has made a mistake here and there and tbf, everyone makes an error in war there is no one with a perfect record that goes for all the greats.

Sure Putin is a decent peacetime leader but he has shown he isn't that capable of a wartime leader. End of the day it starts and ends with him.

Prig while he did say stupid shit, his frustrations with how Putin wanted to wage this war where justified at least.

This isn't stand around a fire and sing brotherly love time with guys who would happily put a bullet in your skull if given the chance, its kill the others guys time and do what you gotta do