Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #4

kvs wrote:The SHLV is not the Angara since it has multiple nozzles in the boosters.  The Angara derivative in the slide you posted in another thread is
shown with single nozzle modules.

I do not know that this thing is supposed to be.   It is rendered as a single nozzle core stage surrounded by what looks like RD-171MV
equipped boosters.   Maybe just some token graphic and not any actual SHLV.

 

Big_Gazza wrote:

Yes, I noticed that, neither Yenisei nor Angara (a 4-man crewed transport to lunar orbit is beyond the ability of even A-5V).  I'm thinking that it might represent a methalox-based SHLV using Amur-derived technologies currently under development?  

What does the text say? I'm not a Russian speaker/reader and my translations are laborious kindergarten-grade efforts that move at glacial speeds, but I'll get around to deciphering the text later, maybe tomorrow.

Scorpius wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:Its not often that a space launch is scheduled that I earnestly wish to fail, but the Ukropi Sich-2-30 is such a mission. Due to be launched on 13 Jan from a F9, I'm hoping to hear about the shoddy piece of junk failing in orbit within a day or two...     Screw these maggots.  Space is no place for hardware from a Nazi-controlled police state...

it looks like your wish has been fulfilled. It looks like the satellite is lost.

owais.usmani wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:Its not often that a space launch is scheduled that I earnestly wish to fail, but the Ukropi Sich-2-30 is such a mission. Due to be launched on 13 Jan from a F9, I'm hoping to hear about the shoddy piece of junk failing in orbit within a day or two...     Screw these maggots.  Space is no place for hardware from a Nazi-controlled police state...

it looks like your wish has been fulfilled. It looks like the satellite is lost.

Can you share a source which mentions the satellite's loss?

magnumcromagnon wrote:

owais.usmani wrote:

Scorpius wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:Its not often that a space launch is scheduled that I earnestly wish to fail, but the Ukropi Sich-2-30 is such a mission. Due to be launched on 13 Jan from a F9, I'm hoping to hear about the shoddy piece of junk failing in orbit within a day or two...     Screw these maggots.  Space is no place for hardware from a Nazi-controlled police state...

it looks like your wish has been fulfilled. It looks like the satellite is lost.

Can you share a source which mentions the satellite's loss?

In Kiev, they did not rule out the loss of the Sich-2-30 satellite launched into orbit

Big_Gazza wrote:
Note the dual-SHLV launch mission for a 4-man crew to the lunar surface. Doesn't look like Soyuz-5 based Yenisei...

owais.usmani wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:
Note the dual-SHLV launch mission for a 4-man crew to the lunar surface. Doesn't look like Soyuz-5 based Yenisei...

It is very clearly. Those side boosters are the first stages to be used by Soyuz-5 using the RD-171MV engine.

kvs wrote:Why would it use a two-nozzle (RD-181) engine for the core module?   That does not make any sense.  I do not see a need for
a slower burn which just requires more fuel and results in less payload.   This heterogeneous approach also defeats the concept
of a URM.  It makes more sense to use identical modules.   The two-nozzle module would have no other utility than for this SHLV.

BEIJING, January 28. /TASS/. An intergovernmental agreement between Russia and China on cooperation in the creation of a lunar station can be signed before the end of the year. This was announced on Friday at a press conference by Deputy Head of the China National Space Administration (CNSA) Wu Yanhua.

"Currently, intergovernmental consultations between China and the Russian Federation on the issue of an agreement on the establishment of the International Scientific Lunar Station are in full swing," he said. "Basically, the parties have reached a consensus. It is quite possible that it (the agreement) can be signed as soon as possible this year," Wu Yanhua said.

On Tuesday, Russian Ambassador to China Andrey Denisov said that an intergovernmental agreement between Russia and China on cooperation in building a lunar station is almost ready and could be signed soon.

Roscosmos and CNSA in June 2021, as part of the Global Conference on Space Research (GLEX-2021), presented a roadmap for the International Scientific Lunar Station. According to the information provided, the construction of the station should be fully completed by 2035. From 2026 to 2030, two missions are planned to develop technologies for landing and delivering cargo, as well as returning samples of lunar rock to Earth. From 2031 to 2035, the parties will deploy infrastructure in orbit and on the surface of the Moon, including communications systems, as well as electrical power, research and other equipment.

MOSCOW, January 28. /TASS/. NPO Energomash handed over the first RD-171MV engine to the Progress Rocket and Space Center last year for testing. Igor Arbuzov, general director of NPO Energomash, announced this.

"In 2021, we conducted the first tests of the RD-171MV engine designed for the promising Soyuz-5 rocket. All these tests were successful. <...> In 2021, the first engine was delivered for bench tests as part of a stage," Arbuzov said on the air of Roscosmos TV .

Big_Gazza wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:If you take a closer look you'll notice that all 4 main modules are modifications of upcoming NEM module which is very smart move

Keeping them standardized (and quickly produced) is better than making one-offs like now

kvs wrote:Link

The Zeus nuclear space "tug" will get a 6 Megawatt power plant.    The original discussion was about a 1 MW unit.

 

kvs wrote:I suspect there was some sort of innovation that upgraded the reactor from 1 MW to 6 MW.   If the concept was going to need some
power range then why not specify it at the outset.   The limitation is the cooling system since in space it can only be through radiative
emissions and not through conduction or convection.    The cooling structure on this "tug" (looks like a massive solar power array) is
the bottleneck for the design in terms of size.   So I am guessing that they came up with a more efficient cooling method (still using
the panel array) and maybe a reactor innovation as well if the initial specs were not deliberately understated.

kvs wrote:I think the label "tug" for this spacecraft is stupid.   It is the first nuclear powered spacecraft.    May as well call all spacecraft tugs
if they have a propulsion unit.   Clearly a moronic choice.   Russia needs to up its game with such details.   Trumpet this achievement
to the world.