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    Post  Sujoy Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:34 am

    Guns and $$ talk. That's what China does that's what Russia should do - focus on creating more guns and $$. Obeiscences will follow.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:52 am

    ALAMO wrote:Judging from a revealed film, ammo exploded on the hit, and the tank started to burn heavily just after.

    May have been DU ammo.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:59 am

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    🇺🇸🇺🇦 The United States will transfer assets confiscated from Russian businessmen to Ukraine - Blinken

    📝 "For the first time, we are handing over assets to Ukraine that were seized from sanctioned Russian oligarchs, which will now be used to support Ukrainian military veterans," said the U.S. Secretary of State during a press conference in Kyiv.

    A statement from the U.S. State Department clarifies that this involves $5.4 million, which will be used for "reintegration and rehabilitation."

    While this action may be perceived as confiscation on a global scale, the U.S. appears to consider itself exempt from such judgments. However, these perceptions may soon be challenged.

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    The daily dose of sarcasm can't be missed. Blinken is transferring stolen property to Ukraine, which isn't particularly known for handling funds with great care. It's like a thief giving something to another thief to distribute among many thieves. This whole situation is ridiculous, just like the photos of Kuleba and Blinken in McDonald's, as if that's the common denominator. In reality, Ukraine seems to have a franchise license for audacity, something they can display toward everyone except the USA.

    While the Western press increasingly criticizes the situation, and Ukraine's elite exhaust their reserves in Rabotino, signaling the end of Ukrainian offensive capabilities, it's time for a rational plan. Instead, Zelensky threatens to sue the EU over wheat import restrictions from neighboring states. Who's paying for the lawyer, you lunatics?

    Pointless drone attacks on Russia achieve nothing, certainly not a military advantage, and the Russian population can't be demoralized.

    In the Ukraine people are dying again, civilians on a marketplace, and critical reporters recognize that the rocket must have been launched from Ukrainian territory, but, of course, it's labeled as a Russian attack.

    There won't be a breakthrough at the front leading to the capture of Crimea. Who still believes that nonsense? The game has long been over, but we know that. A clinically dead patient has been artificially revived three times; there won't be a fourth. It is what it is; stupidity must be punished until sanity returns.

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    Let what that shameless shit just said sink in: Stealing billions in property for simply being Russian, and giving it to another nation documented as among the most corrupt for 30 for the last years..a set of thieves embezzling billions in food, money property and weapons while buying property around the world using a war and mass murder as a deflection.

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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:18 am

    Yet, literally all western media is uncritically parroting Zelenskys remarks of "Russian barbarianism" and what not. Zero reflection, zero research.
    They never had a problem with Obama bombing wedding parties and playgrounds. Deliberatly.

    Civilian areas should not be hit .
    See answer above.

    and the tank started to burn heavily just after.
    He burned happily just after.  lol1

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:33 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    May have been DU ammo.

    It is possible, yet irrelevant. DU ammo makes problems when hits the target. It pulverizes, contaminates the air and ground, and can be inhaled by the people nearby. As long as it stays as a solid rod, it is not an issue. You can lick one for a whole day Laughing and you won't be harmed.

    Hole wrote:
    and the tank started to burn heavily just after.
    He burned happily just after.  lol1

    That's right! Like that chopped off head that was singing an anthem rolling downhill Laughing

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:16 pm

    Interesting video released by Rybar, showing activity of Russian DRGs in Chernobyl and Sumy oblasts.

    https://t.me/rybar/51617

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:39 pm

    Is it just me or has UMPK use literally gone through the roof? Seems like spotter drones are everywhere and they just direct one of these 500kg "Orthodox JDAMs" onto every Ukrainian they see. Another unforeseen consequence of this war and Russia's gradual adaptation and re-armament so to speak.

    Had Russia had them (and certain other assets) in numbers when it all kicked off, things would have looked very different by now, but I guess that's is typical.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:00 pm

    Compilation of clips via the Daily Mail of the attack last night in Rostov. Quite a big explosion, maybe hit a car with petrol. Presumably targeting the military HQ but missed.

    A huge kamikaze drone explosion hit close to Vladimir Putin's war command headquarters in Rostov-on-Don in the early hours of the morning.

    Shocking footage shows a giant fireball rising up over the city, which lies near Russian-occupied Ukraine.

    The explosion whipped up a savage blaze in the vicinity of the military HQ, which Putin is reported to have visited several times throughout the war.

    Three buildings and several cars were damaged according to an initial assessment by Rostov region governor Vasily Golubev.

    The war command bunker is at the HQ of Russia's Southern Military District in Rostov-on-Don.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:01 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Interesting video released by Rybar, showing activity of Russian DRGs in Chernobyl and Sumy oblasts.

    https://t.me/rybar/51617

    Earlier this summer, it seems like. If it's the same (quite graphic) video that just now started making the rounds elsewhere. Can't check TG now.

    They've held onto this material for a while.

    Cf the Russian nazis under Ukrainian command ("Freedom of Russia Legion", whose figurehead is known neo-nazi and esteemed friend of Ukraine Andronikov) that were and still are touted by media as constituting some kind of amazing (and supposedly "local", as if it's some domestic partisan-like resistance, haha) threat to Russia and Putin, after their clusterfuck of an incursion into Belgorod.

    It's just funny how often reality turns out to be 180 from what we are "supposed" to believe.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:50 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Compilation of clips via the Daily Mail of the attack last night in Rostov. Quite a big explosion, maybe hit a car with petrol. Presumably targeting the military HQ but missed.

    Definitely hit the street by Pushkinskaya 41, old residential building. That street is full of quaint early 1900's buildings, small shops and vintage apartments. And it's definitely a car that's burning whose gas tank gives way after a while, sending a fireball into the sky.

    The military HQ is a quarter of a kilometer from there. And it is obviously not going to have anything important on the upper floors that a similar drone could disrupt. In fact, I doubt they keep anything pertaining to the SMO there at all now, the actual operations being run from a secret and presumably underground location elsewhere, given the proximity to Ukraine and some hard earned lessons from before.

    In short, a pointless drone attack. Good thing there were no deaths and that the buildings (many are historically and culturally valuable) seem to have only received superficial damage.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:53 pm

    Neapolitano is doing a live interview with some murican merc.



    Aside from a pure clown show in every single answer, reading the comments section is even better Laughing

    One of the best : what is the color of the sky in his world?

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:01 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Because it was HARM missile that did that.

    Indeed. Coincidences do happen. You can't program a HARM to hit a particular, random location, anyway. If it hits a crowded street like this, it is a failure of some sort. Much like back last year when an AGM-88 HARM hit a school in the same city, or when one hit an apartment building in Kramatorsk. Ukraine of course blamed Russia instantly on both occasions, and as Russia does not operate that missile, it must have gained sentience mid-air and switched sides.

    But just saying, these things do happen with some regularity, and Ukraine always blames Russia for it. Whether somebody important happens to be in Kiev or not.

    Anyway, it's clearly a missile in the AGM-88 ballpark size-wise, and it's running its motor (so it's not an MLRS or anything), it comes from the northeast and it coincides with Ukrainian aerial activity to the northeast.

    Just to make it absolutely clear (@Backman, that is): I am well aware of the depravity and cynicism (dude, half of my post was about that very thing). I can also point you to the far more deadly Kramatorsk Tochka strike back in April 2022, which was clearly a deliberate Ukrainian crime (also a case of 1+1, for that matter, that also nobody gave two shits about investigating).


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:10 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Indeed. Coincidences do happen. You can't program a HARM to hit a particular, random location, anyway. And it is clearly a missile in the AGM-88 ballpark size-wise, and it's running its motor (so it's not an MLRS or anything), it comes from the northeast and it coincides with Ukrainian aerial activity to the northeast.


    Plus it carried small fragments typical for antiradar warheads that caused a lot of damage outside the blast zone. This can be clearly seen on the CCTV, when multiple small hits appear on the windows, car shields and roofs.
    Yet as always it didn't change anything in a whole narration.

    Yesterday (?) there was a report of HRW about the victims in Charkov area. All killed by Ukrainian artillery with fragmentation and flachette warheads. Nobody gives a shit about that, the "mass murderers Russkie" story is already well hashtaged.

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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:12 pm

    things would have looked very different by now,
    One of the aims was to disarm NATO as much as possible, which takes some time.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:02 pm

    Humor.

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    A fine Kornet hit destroying a tank, weapon working exactly as intended. "Stroke of dumb luck"...

    The arrogance is hilarious.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:27 pm

    Also, apropos the above. I don't think anyone thinks that western weapons are crap, but they are very much overhyped. Part of this PR, this mythos, and the bizarre faith in the concept of "force multipliers" simply must have something to do with trying to motivate their exorbitant costs. The fantasies perpetuated by the lobby/PR apparatus  that keep the western MIC very, very well-fed.

    Decades fighting untrained rag-tag armies and militias in the Middle East, who were at most armed with already by then old and often outright obsolete export (downgraded) variants of Soviet and Chinese equipment has fuelled this mythos.

    And it seems that the silly PR has permeated serious military circles in the west as well. What a rude awakening it ought to have been, when their stuff for once met a peer opponent. But when it was right there in front of them, it didn't happen, they instead swiftly resorted to fantasy, their "happy place", the warm comfort of old WW2 and CW tropes.

    So they are for instance happily swallowing the ludicrous things that the UA MoD churns out. It's like one of those weird ass Japanese "hug" pillows at night. It is fascinating.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:17 pm

    NATO learning hard lessons about its future in Ukraine
    While the causes for war vary, inevitably a war becomes a testing ground for technology, battlefield tactics and strategy. The war in Ukraine is no different, in fact, in some ways, it is a poster child for changes in modern warfare. Unfortunately for NATO, it is also a harbinger of bad news. One of the outcomes of the Ukraine war is proof positive that NATO is not ready even to defend its own territories.

     https://youtu.be/YAulkMG5WTo  https://youtu.be/yOKizu8_seA

    Gen. Surovikin discussion: https://youtu.be/--tDgSdI9_Y


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    Post  mnztr Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:26 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Interesting video released by Rybar, showing activity of Russian DRGs in Chernobyl and Sumy oblasts.

    https://t.me/rybar/51617

    Did those guys work in a abattoir before? But some guys walking upright across a field in a warzone in daylight, pretty much suicide by soldier.

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    Post  franco Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:15 pm

    Russia has withdrawn almost all of its troops from the territory of Belarus; at the moment there is no Russian army group in the republic that could threaten Ukraine from the northern direction. This was stated by the representative of the Ukrainian State Border Service Andrey Demchenko.

    According to Ukrainian intelligence, the Russian command rotated units that were trained at training grounds in Belarus, withdrawing almost all personnel from the territory of the republic. At the same time, no new units of the Russian army were introduced. Thus, there are practically no Russian troops in Belarus at the moment.

    At the moment, Russia has withdrawn almost all of its units that have completed training as part of the rotation. But no new units were introduced there - Demchenko said at a briefing.

    Earlier, representatives of the operational command “North” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated that Russia keeps approximately 10-11 thousand military personnel in Belarus, who, if necessary, can create the basis of a new group for attack from the northern direction. It was possible that they could be joined by fighters from the Wagner PMC to attack Kyiv.

    Now, as they say in Kyiv, the number of employees of the Wagner group in Belarus has also decreased; they are allegedly being transferred to Africa, where new events are brewing. The same is reported by Lithuanian intelligence, which is closely monitoring what is happening on the territory of Belarus.

    Before this, it was noted in Kyiv that Russia uses the military training grounds of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus to train its reserves, which, when ready, are brought into battle on the line of contact in the special operation zone.

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    Post  Backman Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:33 pm

    Caviate emptor under sold that video. It is the most graphic thing i have seen so far. It's not really close. Plus it is put together like a first person shooter. Holy..... F. Some Ukr shills will probably claim war crime. In the first half , it looks like one of the chubs is half alive and the Spetzna just shoots him point blank
    https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1699752972635218252?t=H887DvjO2Ka6U9a9pwahBg&s=19

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:22 pm

    A good statement: https://regnum.ru/news/3831614?utm_campaign=regnum&utm_term=top_material

    https://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2023-09-07/8_1252_helicopters.html
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:24 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:




    Reportedly that new minister is of mixed Crimean Tatar and Turkish origin.

    Could be the reason.

    As neo-Nazis they might not appreciate a new minister who is not fully White.


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    Racism?


    lol!

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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:41 pm

    The fake story being put out about the precious wonder waffle Challenger is that it hit a mine which only started a gas tank fire and
    the crew safely evacuated. After this the tank was supposedly hit by a Russian ATGM.

    Supposing that the first stage claim is true, then why would Russian forces destroy the tank instead of taking it as a basically intact
    trophy? It's supposed to have super-duper-high-tech armour and shit that backwards Russians would want to investigate.



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