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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:17 am

    So its not indestructible Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:47 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    UK planes protecting Ukraine ships from Russian attack after grain deal collapse


    RAF is conducting patrols over the Black Sea to deter Putin from carrying out attacks on civilian vessels carrying grain exports

    RAF aircraft are protecting cargo vessels carrying grain from Ukraine, following Russian attacks, Downing Street has revealed.

    In recent weeks, British aircraft have been conducting patrols over the Black Sea to deter Russia from carrying out strikes on civilian vessels.

    The Ministry of Defence stepped up its activity in the area after Moscow began attacking grain infrastructure in July, when it scrapped a deal that allowed Ukraine to export grain from its Black Sea ports.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/08/raf-russia-ukraine-black-sea-grain-exports/#:~:text=RAF%20aircraft%20are%20protecting%20cargo,out%20strikes%20on%20civilian%20vessels.

    So they escort from Odessa?  or escort saboteurs to Turkish Stream?

    If I had to guess I'd say they're doing neither, rather just blowing hot air. What vessels are still running this gauntlet, what companies would insure them, and why would some British air patrols protect these vessels from either being boarded or sunk with missiles?

    JohninMK wrote:So its not indestructible Laughing

    Bet it can still fire Wink

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:50 am

    police station hit by iskander
    https://files.catbox.moe/eaiobg.MP4 (embed) (aftermath)
    https://files.catbox.moe/5f9is6.mp4 (embed)

    I guess Russia is helping the civilians out from getting their young men drafted to battle.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:57 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:



    Jeffery Sachs has incredible first hand knowledge of history. He he worked with world leaders throughout the breakup of the soviet union until recently. Quite an amazing inside view of history. The Judge asks great questions and has guests from all sides. I am a big fan of what he does.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:19 am

    in the meantime in Ukropine...



    British man found dead in Ukraine

    A British man has been found dead in Ukraine, the Foreign Office has confirmed to Sky News.

    Jordan Chadwick, 31, originally from Burnley in Lancashire, had previously served as a Scots guard in the British Army from 2011 to 2015.

    His mother, Brenda Chadwick, expressed her family's profound sadness over the loss of her son - known as Joe - in an interview with the BBC.

    It reported that Mr Chadwick went to fight for the International Legion in Ukraine and was found dead in a body of water with his hands bound behind his back.

    "We are providing assistance to the family of a British man who died in Ukraine and are in contact with the local authorities," a Foreign Office spokesperson told Sky News.
    https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-british-man-found-dead-in-war-torn-country-putin-killed-mercenary-boss-prigozhin-zelenskyy-says-12541713

    he wanted a pay rise? or just wrong look at nazi upa henchmen?

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    Post  Backman Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:34 am

    If I had to guess I'd say they're doing neither, rather just blowing hot air. What vessels are still running this gauntlet, what companies would insure them, and why would some British air patrols protect these vessels from either being boarded or sunk with missiles?

    It better be just hot air. Russia can never allow UK planes in that area. That would be cucking bigtime. Planes should be shot down if they go near there. But will Putin authorize that ?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:51 am

    they r flying in intl. airspace, not in RF claimed area, so shooting them down is an attack on NATO member- even their UAVs weren't shot at, only harassed & disabled by a collision.
    Russia acts with restraint not to provoke a direct NATO involvement, something Kiev been after since 2/24/22.


    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-send-long-range-atacms-missiles-ukraine-time/story?id=103031722 things can get hotter soon!


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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:37 am

    mnztr wrote:
    Mir wrote:I think the West was aiming to kill as many Slavs as possible and to wreck the Russian economy as a result. It failed dismally - except that 404 lost big time.

    Well the did kill a shitload of slavs.

    Including loads of Nazi Slavs which is net positive


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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:40 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:...

    The Federation Council warned Armenia against repeating the mistakes of Ukraine and Georgia

    The Federation Council pointed out dangerous trends in the actions of the Armenian authorities

    n addition, our diplomats are working to ensure that Armenia does not repeat the fate of Georgia and Ukraine. We maintain not only close bilateral contacts between our countries, but also interaction within international organizations, including the CSTO. Thus, friendly relations will remain between Moscow and Yerevan, despite the latest anti-Russian attacks,” Dolgov concluded.
    ...

    Russia should just feed Armenia and NK to Azerbaijan and be done with it

    One pain in the ass is better than three


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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:52 am

    thegopnik wrote:https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1700278119188373852

    So after Major. Gen. Donald Trumpov we also have Major. Gen. Elon Muskovich of the KGB ? pwnd pwnd pwnd pwnd

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:02 am

    The fear of globalists is called Donald Trump. They have not been able to stop its spectrum. Trump is close to Russia and Putin. They know that the elections are close and that Biden and the progressive queers and feminists have their days numbered. Trump will agree with Putin and Russia will put all Ukrainians to the sword. Jew Zelensky will be executed or exiled. Time is in Russia's favor

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:18 am

    NK "to lend a hand": https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/09/9/7419075/

    She may also send some officers & soldiers to get combat experience.
    Time will tell!

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    Post  mnztr Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:34 am

    JohninMK wrote:So its not indestructible Laughing

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    If that happens to an AK imagine what happens to a phone. I guess that is why we have not seen any video from troops on the receiving end of TOS.

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    Post  Arrow Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:48 am

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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:24 am

    Backman wrote:
    If I had to guess I'd say they're doing neither, rather just blowing hot air. What vessels are still running this gauntlet, what companies would insure them, and why would some British air patrols protect these vessels from either being boarded or sunk with missiles?

    It better be just hot air. Russia can never allow UK planes in that area. That would be cucking bigtime. Planes should be shot down if they go near there. But will Putin authorize that ?

    It's the same BS story that they've run with the Challenger. The British elite suffer from illusions of grandeur.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:27 am

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    Now that the Ukrainian Zaporozhe Offensive is grinding to a halt after three months of brutal but absolutely fruitless attacks, a note on how the Russians have shaped the battlefield - in some ways literally - for the last year to win this critical battle.

    The Russians, the Ukrainians, and NATO all know that the road to Ukrainian victory leads through Melitopol. The Stavka identified the land corridor to Crimea as key terrain before the war - the Russians likely launched a large operation in Ukraine rather than a more limited intervention to "bail out" the LDPR in February 2022 due to their overriding need to secure the Zaporozhe Corridor and prevent Ukrainian forces occupying the Azov coast from threatening Crimea. In turn NATO has developed a clear plan of action to isolate and effectively besiege Crimea should their Ukrainian proxy manage to seize Zaporozhe and left-bank Kherson, likely working off prewar Ukrainian schemes to deter and punish a repeat of Russia's more limited 2014 intervention. Simply put, no other direction of attack promised nearly the potential for a rapid end to the war on Ukrainian terms.

    The Russian withdrawals from Kharkov and right-bank Kherson last year - and make no mistake, they were deliberate and considered withdrawals - were clearly conducted to consolidate the Russian position and ensure that Zaporozhe could be defended as strongly as possible for the inevitable battle to come. Their chaotic aftermath (and the operational sideshow in Bakhmut) also provided a priceless opportunity to entrench in relative calm over a period of months. This was the ruthless implementation of basic military principle well-known from Clausewitz - be as strong as possible on the decisive point, because winning the battle is everything.

    The Zaporozhe Corridor was that decisive point. Holding Kherson City and Izyum - or even Nikolaev and Kramatorsk - would have rapidly become profoundly irrelevant had the Ukrainians been allowed to break the Russian center and seize the Azov shore. Absent enough troops to overrun eastern Ukraine in 2022 and foreclose a Ukrainian counteroffensive, retrenchment was ultimately the correct decision - and has largely been proven as such - regardless of any short term damage to Russian prestige.

    This battle has been a fiasco for Western arms. When it is over the Russians will be well-positioned to do that which they lacked the resources to do last year, and get back in the business of drawing big arrows on big maps.

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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:41 am

    It looks like the British war pigs really wants to provoke a nuclear war with Russia.
    https://www.rt.com/news/582617-uk-jets-black-sea/

    Given the high likelihood that these grain ships can be loaded with military cargo, Russia cannot be deterred from sinking those ships, because they already stand with their backs at the wall. That means if British fighter pilot would foolishly try to force Russian attacks to stop, they will be likely shot down.

    Edit: Sorry for not seeing other posters already mentioned this.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:50 am

    If the brits were ti fly planes to "protect ships", the Russians will operate around them in anticipation the brits do something real stupid. If they do, the Russians have rights to retaliate and shoot them down and no article 5. So it's a meaningless move.

    Recall that Romanian President wants to investigate supposed Russian drones that may have blown up on Romanian territory. Soon after NATO stoltenberg quickly came out with statement that "no evidence of Russian drone".the

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:07 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:It looks like the British war pigs really wants to provoke a nuclear war with Russia.
    https://www.rt.com/news/582617-uk-jets-black-sea/

    Given the high likelihood that these grain ships can be loaded with military cargo, Russia cannot be deterred from sinking those ships, because they already stand with their backs at the wall. That means if British fighter pilot would foolishly try to force Russian attacks to stop, they will be likely shot down.

    Edit: Sorry for not seeing other posters already mentioned this.

    From the article

    “We will use our intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance to monitor Russian activity in the Black Sea, call out Russia if we see warning signs that they are preparing attacks on civilian shipping or infrastructure,”

    Oh no, they're going to 'call out' Russia No
    How will Russia recover from such a blow

    Like I said, bunch of hot air

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    Post  Isos Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:13 pm

    Well russia is guilty for this. If they had really made a blocus of the ports by hitting those ships since the start instead of letting them pass and say "it's ok it's a small ship" they wouldn't see nato advance their pawns.

    Make one exemple and their won't be any issue anymore.

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    Post  AMCXXL Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:56 pm

    Supossed russian losses in the war against NATO

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    Post  Tolstoy Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:00 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:Supossed russian losses in the war against NATO

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    Bull! We never lost 3 Su-35

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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:37 pm

    I must admit the guy who thought about this was extremely smart.

    So essentially when there is a cloud cover and they rely on radar imaging the tires hide the presence of the large aircraft pretty well.


    I dont think it is disputable that Pashinyan is pro US. Not so much pro US as someone there to carry out plans for the US. But even the nominally pro Russian elements in the country played "multi vector" politics with the US and were useless and terrible allies. The massive US embassy (2nd biggest in the world) was built before Pashinyan. The situation is hopeless.

    They appear to think they can play one side off against the other and get the best of all sides, but I think Putin would see such behaviour as disloyalty and also being pro US and pro west at a time when the west is trying to murder Russians in Europe openly... it is pretty insulting to Russia and Russians...

    So its not indestructible

    Who knew Pinocchio was so destructive...

    Supossed russian losses in the war against NATO

    A bit of entertainment.

    They certainly have not had no losses though.

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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:45 pm

    Bakhmut was not a "sideshow" and remains the area of the largest Ukr losses today. The fixation on Bakhmut in the Ukr general staff has to have a
    reason and Russia is not letting them succeed.

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