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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49
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JohninMK wrote:
"Posted by: Rune Denmark | Oct 9 2023 9:02 utc | 687
Ukrainians have nothing in common with Palestinians - nothing at all!
It would have been somewhat more accurate to compare the Palestinian plight with those Russians in Ukraine that has been relentlessly slaughtered and harassed by deranged Nazis. Ukraine is currently a terrorist state Hammas is not.
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A short report from the Northern Front from journalist Marat Khairullin
Today one of the most interesting destinations is Kupyanskoye. A few days ago I wrote that in general, our troops had frozen on the Northern Front. As if in anticipation of what the Ukrainians would do after the bridges across Oskol were broken, and our troops began moving forward along the entire Southern Front.
And so we waited for an answer - on October 5-6, the Ukrainians tried to withdraw a certain number of troops from the Northern direction and drag them through the Liman towards Artyomovsk and further to Donetsk and Zaporozhye. In other words, as soon as the outflow of enemy troops from this area was noticed, ours, after waiting a couple of days (to allow them to move further away), again began active pressure in the North.
First of all, a movement began north of Kislovka from the village of Yagodnoye towards Ivanovka.
Let me remind you that a month ago the Ukrainians sent serious reinforcements here to slow down our movement and stabilize the front line. And so, with an unexpected leap, ours covered most of the road between Ivanovka and Yagodnoye. And now they are about half a kilometer from the village. At the same time, movement by rail began from Kislovka to Shaparevka station and further towards Stepnaya Novoselovka. This is an attempt to pincer the Ukrov group sitting in Ivanovka - according to various estimates, a whole brigade with attached units is sitting in this village and its surroundings - about 4-5 thousand people in total.
Ours also went forward on the northern flank, directly opposite Kupyansk from the side of Liman First. Let me remind you that here our troops on a relatively small front about three to four kilometers wide are opposed by a powerful group of 12-15 thousand people (five brigades). The depth of Ukrov's defense here is five lines. It is about 9 kilometers from Kupyansk in this direction. Now our people are working hard on the first line in the area of the Sinkovka railway station. It is located a kilometer from the very Sinkovka, around which there has been so much noise lately.
In addition, serious counter-battles are still taking place near Makeyevka LPR, as well as on the Tor ledge.
Thus, the northern front is waking up again along the entire line - ours continues to implement the strategy of keeping Ukrov under pressure over the widest possible area. The goal is obvious - the enemy is being actively depleted.
Here it must be said that such tactics (hundreds of pinpricks) are not at all afraid of the impending thaw. No amount of dirt will stop the slow movement forward in small groups. Plus, the green stuff is now actively disappearing, given the total superiority of Russian artillery and MLRS, this can only benefit us.
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Today one of the most interesting destinations is Kupyanskoye. A few days ago I wrote that in general, our troops had frozen on the Northern Front. As if in anticipation of what the Ukrainians would do after the bridges across Oskol were broken, and our troops began moving forward along the entire Southern Front.
And so we waited for an answer - on October 5-6, the Ukrainians tried to withdraw a certain number of troops from the Northern direction and drag them through the Liman towards Artyomovsk and further to Donetsk and Zaporozhye. In other words, as soon as the outflow of enemy troops from this area was noticed, ours, after waiting a couple of days (to allow them to move further away), again began active pressure in the North.
First of all, a movement began north of Kislovka from the village of Yagodnoye towards Ivanovka.
Let me remind you that a month ago the Ukrainians sent serious reinforcements here to slow down our movement and stabilize the front line. And so, with an unexpected leap, ours covered most of the road between Ivanovka and Yagodnoye. And now they are about half a kilometer from the village. At the same time, movement by rail began from Kislovka to Shaparevka station and further towards Stepnaya Novoselovka. This is an attempt to pincer the Ukrov group sitting in Ivanovka - according to various estimates, a whole brigade with attached units is sitting in this village and its surroundings - about 4-5 thousand people in total.
Ours also went forward on the northern flank, directly opposite Kupyansk from the side of Liman First. Let me remind you that here our troops on a relatively small front about three to four kilometers wide are opposed by a powerful group of 12-15 thousand people (five brigades). The depth of Ukrov's defense here is five lines. It is about 9 kilometers from Kupyansk in this direction. Now our people are working hard on the first line in the area of the Sinkovka railway station. It is located a kilometer from the very Sinkovka, around which there has been so much noise lately.
In addition, serious counter-battles are still taking place near Makeyevka LPR, as well as on the Tor ledge.
Thus, the northern front is waking up again along the entire line - ours continues to implement the strategy of keeping Ukrov under pressure over the widest possible area. The goal is obvious - the enemy is being actively depleted.
Here it must be said that such tactics (hundreds of pinpricks) are not at all afraid of the impending thaw. No amount of dirt will stop the slow movement forward in small groups. Plus, the green stuff is now actively disappearing, given the total superiority of Russian artillery and MLRS, this can only benefit us.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/66721
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ALAMO wrote:kvs wrote:Must be because Russia is running out of shells.
That random satellite image proves diddley squat.
I seriously have an issue with getting the clue of this whole denial stage.
Yes, Russkie are buying military supply from China.
Yes, Russkie are buying military supply from Iran.
Yes, Russkie are buying military supply from North Korea.
There are some rumors, that soon they can have deliveries from Myanmar either. Myanmar defence industry was extremely overhauled in the last two decades, and the number of enterprises tripled. They can supply a wide array of mmunition including small arms 7.62 and 5.45, mortar 81 and 120, gun 122 and 152mm, mines equivalent to PTM-62, RPG-7 rounds of a different types. They produce 57 mm S-60 ammunition and 122mm rockets for Grad. They even can supply Igla MANPADs and it's subcomponents, like the batteries or cartridges.
As the war is going on, you are notoriously disbelieving things proven right.
What's more, all of them are just logical.
Proving the great effectiveness and flexibility of the Russian supply chain, and what's more - the fact that they have proven allies.
What is the point of denying that?
Your post is a non sequitur to what I posted.
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Stugna into side armour into boyevoy komplekt. We haven’t seen destruction like this ON CAMERA with this particular tank, but plenty of videos of ATGM causing catastrophic kills from side.Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Unfortunately, whatever it was, it was instantly fatal.RTN wrote:Ukrainian ATGM destroying a Russian T-90M
The explosion starts on the left side. Can be seen in the video. It's 5s after firing. I think a mine is rather unlikely. How long does the car charger take? 7-8 seconds? Possibly a loading error with interior detonation? A frontal penetration of the tower is also rather unlikely. At least we haven't seen such destruction yet. Especially not with a T90SM.
Slow down video, pause until you see grey blur. Stugna ATGM at hull level. Lucky shot. Remote mine could cause that too if penetrator would go side and hit carousel, but not in this case.Scorpius wrote:there are no signs of damage to the tank with the help of ATGM. Instant detonation is more like detonating a mine.RTN wrote:Ukrainian ATGM destroying a Russian T-90M
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There is a quite detailed frame by frame analysis.
Cant remember now where I saw it, but I would bet LostArmor.
Does not look like anything other than an internal explosion or a mine. No signs of any projectile hitting it.
Edit : yes, I saw that "something", but it does not reveal on the other aerial recon that is Russian delivered. Anyway, we have some really lucky/unlucky case.
Cant remember now where I saw it, but I would bet LostArmor.
Does not look like anything other than an internal explosion or a mine. No signs of any projectile hitting it.
Edit : yes, I saw that "something", but it does not reveal on the other aerial recon that is Russian delivered. Anyway, we have some really lucky/unlucky case.
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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
Unfortunately, whatever it was, it was instantly fatal.
The explosion starts on the left side. Can be seen in the video. It's 5s after firing. I think a mine is rather unlikely. How long does the car charger take? 7-8 seconds? Possibly a loading error with interior detonation? A frontal penetration of the tower is also rather unlikely. At least we haven't seen such destruction yet. Especially not with a T90SM.
If I was a tanker that would be how i would hope to go. Blown to atoms before you even know its coming. The other death options in tanks are much worse. RIP guys, that was a good death.
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Good point.
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I wonder if the Americans decided not to divulge the planned terror attacks on Israel as a way of creating a big Middle East problem?
A pretext to an exit from the Ukraine with some "face saving" in their twisted minds?
A pretext to an exit from the Ukraine with some "face saving" in their twisted minds?
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Commander hit the self-destruct button unintentionally.Does not look like anything other than an internal explosion or a mine.
90% of the Palestinian actions are classical fighting. Nobody called the uprising in Warsaw terrorism. Well, except for Goebbels. Maybe.planned terror attacks
That reaction shows how good western propaganda really is. Even Christoforou can´t believe that the western intel services are mostlyif the Americans decided not to divulge
made up of morons these days. No, it has to be some 15D chess move because those intellectual members of the Herrenrasse can´t
be fooled or being wrong.
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Naah ...
Not intentionally.
But we had already documented cases when they were using ammo made in the late 80s.
It is robust and solid, but in almost 2 years, and hundreds of thousands of cases, shit just happens.
Not intentionally.
But we had already documented cases when they were using ammo made in the late 80s.
It is robust and solid, but in almost 2 years, and hundreds of thousands of cases, shit just happens.
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Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (9 October 2023)
In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces in cooperation with aviation and artillery repelled 3 attacks by AFU near Kurdyumovka and Vodyanoye (DPR).
In addition, strikes were delivered at clusters of enemy manpower and hardware near Kleshcheyevka and Andreyevka (DPR).
The enemy lost up to 140 servicemen killed or wounded, 3 AFVs, and 2 motor vehicles.
In Zaporozhye direction, the Russian Group of Forces supported by aviation and artillery neutralised manpower and hardware of the AFU 65th Mechanised Brigade near Rabotino (Zaporozhye).
Also, during the day, actions of a sabotage and reconnaissance group were foiled close to Verbovoye (Zaporozhye).
Up to 15 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles, and a D-30 howitzer were wiped out.
In Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces units supported by aviation and artillery repelled 5 enemy attacks of the AFU 32th, 115th mechanised brigades, and 4th Tank Brigade near Sinkovka, Orlyanskoye (Kharkov) and Makeyevka (LPR).
The enemy losses amounted to up to 170 servicemen, 4 pick-up trucks, and an Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system during the day.
In Krasny Liman direction, well-coordinated actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces, helicopter strikes, and artillery fire repelled 2 attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 63rd and 67th mechanised brigades near Chervonaya Dibrova (LPR).
In addition, strikes were delivered at clusters of enemy manpower and hardware near Torskoye, Grigorovka (DPR) and Kuzmino (LPR).
Up to 45 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles were neutralised.
In the course of counter-battery warfare, an Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers, were destroyed.
In South Donetsk direction, the Vostok Group of Forces supported by helicopters and artillery repelled an attack of the AFU 128th Territorial Defence Brigade near Priyutnoye (Zaporozhye) and delivered strikes at Ukrainian units near Staromayorskoye (DPR).
Total losses of the enemy in the past 24 hours in this direction have amounted to over 200 servicemen killed and wounded, 1IFV, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles, and a D-20 howitzer.
In Kherson direction, up to 60 servicemen, 3 motor vehicles, and a D-30 howitzer have been neutralised by fire.
Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, UAVs, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 105 areas during the day.
An AFU depot of missile and artillery weapory has been destroyed near Priluki (Chernigov).
Russian air defence units have intercepted one HIMARS MLRS projectile during the day.
14 UAVs have been destroyed close to Kremenets, Kurdyumovka (DPR), Proletarka, Kazachi, Genichensk (Zaporozhye), and Olshana, Berestovoye (Kherson).
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In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces in cooperation with aviation and artillery repelled 3 attacks by AFU near Kurdyumovka and Vodyanoye (DPR). In addition, strikes were delivered at clusters of enemy manpower and hardware near Kleshcheyevka and Andreyevka (DPR). The enemy lost up to 140 servicemen killed or wounded, 3 AFVs, and 2 motor vehicles. In Zaporozhye direction, the Russian Group of Forces supported by aviation and artillery neutralised manpower and hardware of the AFU 65th Mechanised Brigade near Rabotino (Zaporozhye). Also, during the day, actions of a sabotage and reconnaissance group were foiled close to Verbovoye (Zaporozhye). Up to 15 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles, and a D-30 howitzer were wiped out. In Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces units supported by aviation and artillery repelled 5 enemy attacks of the AFU 32th, 115th mechanised brigades, and 4th Tank Brigade near Sinkovka, Orlyanskoye (Kharkov) and Makeyevka (LPR). The enemy losses amounted to up to 170 servicemen, 4 pick-up trucks, and an Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system during the day. In Krasny Liman direction, well-coordinated actions of the Tsentr Group of Forces, helicopter strikes, and artillery fire repelled 2 attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 63rd and 67th mechanised brigades near Chervonaya Dibrova (LPR). In addition, strikes were delivered at clusters of enemy manpower and hardware near Torskoye, Grigorovka (DPR) and Kuzmino (LPR). Up to 45 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles were neutralised. In the course of counter-battery warfare, an Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers, were destroyed. In South Donetsk direction, the Vostok Group of Forces supported by helicopters and artillery repelled an attack of the AFU 128th Territorial Defence Brigade near Priyutnoye (Zaporozhye) and delivered strikes at Ukrainian units near Staromayorskoye (DPR). Total losses of the enemy in the past 24 hours in this direction have amounted to over 200 servicemen killed and wounded, 1IFV, 2 AFVs, 2 motor vehicles, and a D-20 howitzer. In Kherson direction, up to 60 servicemen, 3 motor vehicles, and a D-30 howitzer have been neutralised by fire. Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, UAVs, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 105 areas during the day. An AFU depot of missile and artillery weapory has been destroyed near Priluki (Chernigov). Russian air defence units have intercepted one HIMARS MLRS projectile during the day. 14 UAVs have been destroyed close to Kremenets, Kurdyumovka (DPR), Proletarka, Kazachi, Genichensk (Zaporozhye), and Olshana, Berestovoye (Kherson).Russian Defence Ministry
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All eyes away from SMO now xp
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49
Belisarius Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:49 am
— US Republican Senator Josh Hawley: 'Any funding for Ukraine should be redirected to Israel immediately', without delayshttps://t.me/VampireSix/889
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Ukraine is in the same position, BTW. Provoking Russian atrocities against west Ukraine is the best way to create a new generation of Ukrainian terrorists in western Europe and Canada. So even if the Russia atrocity destroys Ukraine today, it will rise from the ashes 30 years from now. Expect Ukraine to try provoking such atrocities.
Ukrainians in the west help drive the hatred of Russia, and so far they don't bother trying to provoke Russia to commit atrocities... they are happy to do that themselves and then blame Russia for it because they know the western media are on their side and will not point out that the direction of fire or type of weapons used are Ukrainian and not used by Russia.
The weak are forced to resort to alternative forms of force with the weakest using terrorism... but even the US uses terrorism... that is what shock and awe is supposed to be... but isn't.
Ukraine is going to be broken up into neutral regions and regions that actually wanted to join Russia but couldn't because thugs from Kiev and the west brutally stopped them.
Now I would like to say that over time the development and growth and prosperity in the regions that join Russia might make the neutral areas wonder where all the money from the west is... the west will happily throw 200 billion to kill Russians and destroy Russian equipment, but for rebuilding you get loans that will have you in debt and poverty for ever no matter the value of your people and your land.
But the reality is that Russia is already developing and growing and the west still think things are collapsing because of their sanctions.
Looking in the west there is nothing like that growth and development but they feel superior anyway.
Let them live with their ignorance.
This is just the west wanting Russia to have a forever war again... the last time was in Chechnia... which is largely sorted out, and the time before that was Afghanistan and Russia genuinely has better relations with Afghanistan than America has despite the US and the west spending 2 trillion for 20 years trying to dismember it.
For half that money they could have built roads and hospitals and schools and turned it into an example for third world countries to follow, but they are not interested in getting countries out of poverty... not even their own country. The goal was to secure the mining rights in those fabulous mountains that have not been commercially mined before and probably hold all sorts of treasures...
They wanted the resources but they didn't want to pay market value for it so the people who lived on the land would remain poor which makes them cheap labour to work in their dirty dusty unsafe mines as an added bonus.
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For the government it is true but generally populations don't follow that logic. Israel is hated by most muslims, specially in Saudi Arabia.
Well to be fair Germany was hated by many European countries when they were occupied by German forces too.
Clearly not enough to remember that now...
Still dont like it. I get muslim brotherhood/ISIS tier spook ran organization vibes. The way our msm is crafting and curating the narrative. The way it has all played out. Reminds me of the under handed motives behind Tonkin and Pearl Harbor.
One person might say it is a big conspiracy and that Israel might have ignored obvious signs so they can be the victim and destroy their victims with justification, but the point remains that the actions of the Israeli government made this sort of response inevidable because as the settlements spread and Palestinians get kicked off their land with no jobs being confined into a smaller and smaller space... how long would you wait... how long can you wait?
US Republican Senator Josh Hawley: 'Any funding for Ukraine should be redirected to Israel immediately', without delays
When I saw that I thought of Zelensky... and a good Aussie old song...
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It's a blessing. Russia never cared about media attention.
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So all those civilians who were just machine gunned? For instance at that festival.
Are you saying that isn't a terrorist attack coordinated at the very highest(lowest) levels of Hamas with the other activity?
If so, you must be on another planet. Or just a dirty terrorist yourself.
Did the "likers" of that post actually read it rather than skim thro it?
90% of the Palestinian actions are classical fighting. Nobody called the uprising in Warsaw terrorism. Well, except for Goebbels. Maybe.planned terror attacks
So all those civilians who were just machine gunned? For instance at that festival.
Are you saying that isn't a terrorist attack coordinated at the very highest(lowest) levels of Hamas with the other activity?
If so, you must be on another planet. Or just a dirty terrorist yourself.
Did the "likers" of that post actually read it rather than skim thro it?
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I have quite similar thoughts.
Hamas action was a combination of military and purely terrorist.
They targeted civilians from the beginning, unleashing havoc among them, and kidnapping hundreds of people to use them as human shields or some kind of leverage later.
It looks like they are trying to force Israel to be involved in a classic urban war, a huge and massive hostage release operation.
They can equal the chances then, and increase Israeli losses.
Pay attention, that we have quite unusual situation where human loses are about the same for both sides. For the usual clashes, Palestinians suffered tenfold, or an even worse ratio.
As the whole situation is a backfire of decades of mutual hate, I guess it is extremely complicated to make an objective judgment.
Hamas action was a combination of military and purely terrorist.
They targeted civilians from the beginning, unleashing havoc among them, and kidnapping hundreds of people to use them as human shields or some kind of leverage later.
It looks like they are trying to force Israel to be involved in a classic urban war, a huge and massive hostage release operation.
They can equal the chances then, and increase Israeli losses.
Pay attention, that we have quite unusual situation where human loses are about the same for both sides. For the usual clashes, Palestinians suffered tenfold, or an even worse ratio.
As the whole situation is a backfire of decades of mutual hate, I guess it is extremely complicated to make an objective judgment.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49
PapaDragon Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:02 am
Belisarius wrote:
https://t.me/VampireSix/889
Called it
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Firebird wrote:
Are you saying that isn't a terrorist attack coordinated at the very highest(lowest) levels of Hamas with the other activity?
If so, you must be on another planet. Or just a dirty terrorist yourself.
Did the "likers" of that post actually read it rather than skim thro it?
"One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter."
I live in the country that coined the phrase "Apartheid" - which actually means separate development BUT the word soon evolved internationally to Apart Hate.
What we have in Gaza is very similar as to what happened here in South Africa. People of colour were forced to live in separate townships (ghettos) mostly on the outskirts of the big cities. Their lives was turned into a living hell and they were treated like sub-humans. In those conditions you quickly learn what actual hatred means. This is the perfect breeding ground for what you phrased as "terrorists" - but I'm pretty sure if you had to live through that you would call them Freedom Fighters.
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The western public , especially the American / British and sidekick Canadian / Austrailian are hypocrites . They cry over the rape and killing of young woman by some Palestinian motorcycle gang in Israel . But they never show the burnt body of a Palestinian child , set alight by Israeli settlers ! If you condemn , you must condemn both ! Or none !They never condemned their own soldiers killing civilians in Afghanistan or Iraq or a thousand different places . The English Judges never found guilty . But they condemn the " Muslim terrorism " on streets of London ! One wears a uniform , the other does not ! Only difference .
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49
higurashihougi Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:47 am
Mir wrote:What we have in Gaza is very similar as to what happened here in South Africa. People of colour were forced to live in separate townships (ghettos) mostly on the outskirts of the big cities. Their lives was turned into a living hell and they were treated like sub-humans. In those conditions you quickly learn what actual hatred means. This is the perfect breeding ground for what you phrased as "terrorists" - but I'm pretty sure if you had to live through that you would call them Freedom Fighters.
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There were tanks and soldiers. Those "civilians" were radical settlers.For instance at that festival.
They gathered at the same place a few years ago to watch the bombing of Gaza and cheered it.
Now they were caught in the crossfire.
West likes to call those people collateral damage when they are brown.
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