Russian special military operation in Ukraine #49

Russian Black Sea Fleet, Ropucha-class landing ship "Olenegorsky Gornyak", that was hit by a Ukrainian unmanned kamikaze boat and lying on its side on 4 August, returned to Sevastopol on 7 September after a 34-day repair period and was returned to service.

Ukrainian general staff claimed that it would be put into service only after 5 years of repairs
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It sounds like really good news, if it means that Poland will contribute less to this dangerous war, but it would be bad news, if Poland is breaking up with Ukraine with the intention to fight Russia itself and occupy West-Ukraine in the near future.

But that would be hilarious... Kiev would have to remove troops from the front line with the Russians to face the Poles attacking their rear... imagine Zelensky being overthrown and the Orc military asking Russian forces to push Polish forces out of their territory in the west in return for a total surrender and peace talks...

This is all centred around Ukraininan grain that is supposed to pass through the EU to be shipped to the rest of the world but not making it through the EU countries and being sold in Poland et al undercutting the prices that local farmers can sell the same products for so the local farmers are losing money because they can't compete.

The EU ban on Ukrainian grain sales in the EU ended and the EU refused to extend the ban so three countries have created their own unilateral ban which annoyed the EU and the Ukraine and so Kiev is taking those countries to the WTO... and it seems Poland is responding by cutting military aide.

Will the Russians make it easy as Pie ? This means partition plan , perhaps the most expedient . Cake for Russia first , Pie for Poland later ?

Russia has no reason to be handing out cake or pie. If Poland wants anything they are going to have to work for it and up until this point they have been doing everything they could to work against and hurt Russia and Russians and Ukrainians, so I don't really see any reason for Russia to give Poland anything at all.

And if they want to sneak in and take they might get their fingers burned... off.

What is the cost to hitting some visible targets like govt buildings and things in Kiev ? Even if it is mostly for show

Hitting government buildings would make no real difference at all.... I would say most government business in Kiev is done in the US embassy... they don't need the thousands of workers there for issuing green cards... they are either running the war or running the country or both... if you want to hit them hard then hit that.

But damaging buildings in Kiev related to their government would be pointless because their government is a puppet government... it is like the drunk at a ventriloquist show.... he stands up and says he is sick of all the bad irish jokes they are doing because he is irish and those jokes are making the irish look stupid... and if they don't quit it he is going to go up there and knock some sense into him. The Ventriloquist starts to apologise but the drunk says he is not talking to him, he is talking to the little fellow on his knee.

Is completely wrong. Iskander is not an MLRS, I thought even u knew this.

How can I be wrong... did you read what you quoted?

I am not making a statement, I am asking you a question.

HIIMARS and ATACMS operate from the same vehicle, but the Russians split the functions into two completely separate systems... Smerch and Iskander.

Westerners talk about ATACMS like it is HIMARS and an MLRS and it isn't.

ATACMS and Iskander and Tochka are tactical guided missiles, while HIMARS and Grad and Uragan and Smerch are MRLS systems.

The fact that HIMARS and ATACMS operate from the same platform blurs things badly... and gives the wrong impression of what the system is and does.

There is also a difference between rockets and missiles mainly around guidance. But iskander isn't classified as a MLRS, u might have thought it was due to being armed with more than one missile but this doesn't constitute an MLRS.

The clue is in the name.. Multiple Launch Rocket System... but does HIMARS qualify as a MLRS when its rockets are guided and therefore technically are missiles and not unguided ballistic rockets anymore.

Doesn't HIMARS become a tactical missile system with either six or one missile?

The neocons that have their hands up Elensky anus and flap his puppet lips are terminally deluded. Not surprising considering that they
are nothing more than higher functioning autistics.

Russia said from day one the longer this takes and the more Russia pays for this war in blood and money, the worse the outcome for Kiev is going to be.

If they had talked to start with it would not have been necessary and these four regions could be autonomous regions inside Ukrainian territory... they were never going to get Crimea back.

Now they will be lucky to survive intact with access to the Black Sea...

And the longer this takes the more damage the west inflicts on itself too...

Fucking hell, I hope it’s not a grim day for Russia.

You didn't think they would stop trying did you?