Russian special military operation in Ukraine #50

It's easier to fill their orbits with shrapnel than to put the satellites into these orbits.

Also, EMP nukes will do wonders on satellite constellations. In WW3 there will be no functioning satellite networks left.

Challenger 2 still uses asbestos for its armor package, so technically speaking there is not much difference from the health issues perspective. They will get a cancer because of a different substance, that's all.

It takes years of inhaling asbestos fibres before you have any risk of lung cancer... an office worker or teacher in a school with asbestos, or someone who installs asbestos insulation were the real victims... in a tank it is really not a serious issue and would not burn like DU would.

What has Russia gained from being a niceguy and "gentle giant" when its enemies are not playing by the same rules?

When they hold war crimes trials after the war they wont be in the accused chair very often at all.

Those that survive will realise who the good guys were and who their future lies with, without needing to be bought.

And it is just the right thing to do.

Any other leadership than the Kremlin would have already gone after Ukrainian leadership.

They would have, and the west simply would have hand picked the next Ukrainian leadership like they did the last.

When Ukrainians kill Zelensky or capture him to hand him over to Russia for trial then the west will have no say in the matter.

One way would be to release put a satellite in the same orbit and release water vapor going a couple hundred kPH slower, this will cause drag and the sat will have to burn a ton of fuel each time you do this and eventually deorbit.

If you put something in the same orbital path as an object it has to be the same speed... if it is faster it will climb to a higher orbit and slower to a lower orbit.

There are 5,000 Starlink satellites orbiting the earth every 90 minutes. SpaceX is launching about 200 new satellites every month. To do what you are suggesting and to have any meaningful impact on the constellation is, I'm sorry to say, absurd.

Plus the obvious problem that if you take out the satellites then you can't find the Ukrainians using the satellites to enable you to kill them.

They will be blind and lost but also hard to locate. Sounds better for them to know where they are when you kill them.

It's easier to fill their orbits with shrapnel than to put the satellites into these orbits.

Release a bucket of nails in the exact opposite orbit... as the nails spread out every 45 minutes you get a new chance to hit the target with the ever expanding cloud of nails... the closing speed giving them the kinetic energy to obliterate the targets easily... no warhead required... but then how would you find the Orcs using the signals or intercept their communications and find out where they are and what they are up to?

It would depend on the target really and the effect you were going for... satellites not in geostationary orbit will pass over any fixed location on earth about 6 or 7 minutes at the most... more often just a few minutes to pass over and then 90 minutes to the next pass for that satellite...

The distance to the target and the level of effect you want will be huge factors in how many shots you get, but lets face it... just because it is truck mounted doesn't mean it can't operate next to a building with a wall plug and use power from the local grid to boost its performance....

They have a reduced sized model that can destroy drones within 5km or so operational in Ukraine and no doubt it will get better over time with improvements in performance and technology.

You don't have to pump enough energy into a satellite to obliterate it, and an incoming missile with optical guidance can be defeated simply by dazzling the optical seeker with a bright flash of light so it can't see anything at all.

Of course most of the time a TOR missile will get the job done too... the new missiles can be carried 16 to a vehicle and the newer lighter anti drone missiles are supposed to be much smaller allowing perhaps 32 missiles in one slot and 8 current missiles in the other slot.

The original missiles were rather large and would only fit four missiles to each ammo slot, of which there are two.

The original missiles reached 12km, while the newer missiles could reach about 3km further at about 15km but were smaller and lighter and more accurate.

TMA1 wrote:Would like to know the amount of times targets can be lased in a day with Peresvet. I remember hearing it is nuclear pumped. Honestly a good stationary laser can heat up a satellite to failure very quickly. I bet in a matter of weeks you could take out substantial numbers of the satellites which pass thru Russia's orbit.

Peresvet is connected to the grid. The ammo counter is essentially infinite and ROF can be as high as you want.

In the period from October 21 to 27, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 19 group strikes with precision weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles on arsenals with artillery ammunition, storage sites for unmanned boats, military airfield infrastructure, as well as fuel and lubricants bases.

In addition, the locations of Ukrainian servicemen, nationalists and foreign mercenaries were affected. As a result of the strikes, all designated objects are hit.

In the Kupyansk direction, units of the "Western" grouping of troops repelled 47 enemy counterattacks over the past week and took more advantageous lines and positions with professional actions.

Air strikes and artillery fire defeated the manpower and equipment of the 25th Airborne, 14th, 32nd and 41st mechanized, 68th Jaeger brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Ivanovka, Sinkovka, Kharkiv region, Sergeyevka and Novoegorovka of the Luhansk People's Republic. In addition, four warehouses with weapons and ammunition of the AFU units were destroyed.

The total losses of the enemy over the past week amounted to over 705 soldiers, a tank, 11 armored combat vehicles, 19 cars, as well as five field artillery guns.

In the Krasnolimansk direction, units of the Center group of troops, supported by aviation, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems, repelled 45 attacks by assault detachments of the 24th, 63rd and 67th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 15th Regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine.

The enemy's losses in this direction amounted to more than 1,020 servicemen, 20 armored combat vehicles, 14 cars and three guns.

In the Donetsk direction, Russian units of the "Southern" grouping of troops repelled nine enemy attacks over the past week and defeated the combat groups of the 24th, 54th mechanized and 77th airmobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Maryinka, Kurdyumovka, Bogdanovka and Kleshcheyevka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

As a result of the fighting, the total losses of the AFU in this direction amounted to more than 2,055 servicemen, three tanks, 17 armored combat vehicles, 22 vehicles, as well as 16 field artillery guns.

In the South Donetsk direction, Russian units improved the situation along the front edge and defeated units of the 58th Motorized Infantry, 72nd Mechanized Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the 128th Territorial Defense Brigade in the areas of the settlements of Staromayorskoye, Ugledar and Urozhodnoye of the Donetsk People's Republic.

The enemy's losses during the specified period amounted to over 885 servicemen, a tank, four armored combat vehicles, 17 vehicles and four field artillery guns.

In the Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian troops conducted an active defense, during which 19 attacks of the assault groups of the 65th and 118th mechanized, as well as the 82nd airborne assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were repelled in the areas of the settlements of Workino and Verbovoye of the Zaporozhye region.

The total losses of the enemy amounted to more than 435 soldiers, 15 tanks, 17 armored combat vehicles, 16 cars and 17 field artillery guns.

In the Kherson direction, as a result of pre-emptive actions of Russian troops and artillery fire raids during the week, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to up to 485 servicemen killed and wounded, 11 field artillery guns, as well as 20 cars.

In the area of responsibility of the "Western" grouping of Russian troops, as well as in the Soledar-Bakhmut and South Donetsk directions, a critically low level of the moral and psychological state of Ukrainian servicemen is recorded.

During the week, 54 Ukrainian servicemen of the 54th Mechanized, 56th, 57th and 58th motorized Infantry Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 110th and 115th Territorial Defense Brigades surrendered voluntarily to Russian troops.

Over the past period, 208 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been destroyed by air defense means. In addition, intercepted: 19 multiple rocket launchers HIMARS and four "Hurricane", two tactical missiles ATACMS, two anti-ship missiles "Neptune", six anti-radar missiles HARM, 8 guided bombs JDAM, as well as converted to defeat ground targets anti-aircraft missile S-200.

Since October 1 of this year, fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces and air defense means have destroyed: 31 aircraft and three helicopters of the Air Forces of Ukraine, including: 20 Mig-29 aircraft, eight Su-25 attack aircraft, one Su-24 bomber, two L-39 combat training aircraft and three Mi-8 helicopters.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 515 aircraft, 253 helicopters, 8312 unmanned aerial vehicles, 441 anti-aircraft missile systems, 12960 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1169 multiple rocket launchers, 6893 field artillery and mortars, as well as 14684 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12483097@egNews

Former employees of the PMC "Wagner" began en masse to transfer to the special forces units "Akhmat" and arrive in the zone of military operations, the commander of "Akhmat" Apty Alaudinov reported to RIA Novosti on October 28.

“They have switched to me before, a certain number of fighters from time to time. And now, in essence, we have a massive replenishment of Wagner fighters. That is, now they have joined me in different detachments. It turns out that former commanders are coming in, and their fighters are slowly coming in with them,” said the Akhmat commander.

The special forces commander emphasized that the units worked together more than once in different areas of combat operations.

On October 1, the Akhmat commander called on Ukrainians to wake up and rebel against the authorities of Kiev and its Western partners .

https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1596679/2023-10-28/byvshie-sotrudniki-chvk-vagner-perekhodiat-v-spetcnaz-akhmat?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Filling the orbits of 5,000 satellites with shrapnel, causing a multiplying effect leading to hundreds of thousands of pieces of space junk and creating a Kessler cascade, is probably the dumbest idea I've read in the last few weeks. And that's something, because I occasionally read NATO OSINT Twitter for amusement.

What do you think US space command will be doing in WWIII?

Issuing requests that Russian and Chinese and Iranian satellites turn off so they don't have to destroy them?

@Belisarius.... that is funny... that guy thinks a Leopard can fire 49 shots at Russian tanks and the Russians wont notice them till they fired their 50th shot and is leaving to reload?

Leopards will be watching Russian helicopters 15km away launching anti armour missiles at them and they wont be able to do anything except bail out before the missiles start hitting. Not to mention the mines that will destroy them everywhere they try to go... Russian mines and now their own mines... and of course drones are going to be hunting them down day and night.

The Russians don't need tanks to defeat Kiev.

Before Odessa, you need the rest of Kherson and Nikolayev

When the weapons and ammo and most importantly money runs out from the west the top echelon in Kiev are going to run away, and of the people left I doubt most of them will want to fight Russia all on their own... the country will be denazified to a significant degree where normal people might get a chance to take over, but without weapons and ammo the guys on the front line have very limited options too... surrender or suicide charge... which seems to be what they are already doing anyway...

As their side collapses the options and choices for Russia will dramatically improve... but worst case scenario Russia can always go hard core and say we have been nice but you have tested out patience and are murdering out soldiers and civilians and we are no longer going to be nice so we are going to target infrastructure to force a civil uprising against the leadership of the country... power stations, logistics centres, transport links, roads and rail and bridges will be destroyed, trucks heading east will be destroyed, buses and vehicles heading east will be fair game... leave now and go to the EU or starve, or rise up and get rid of Zelensky and we can negotiate with you.

NOTE: from an Ukrainian blogger on the distribution of Russian aircraft and helicopters in the Southern zone around Crimea and surrounding Regions... actually a fairly good dispersal of assets which is needed in combat. Wonder if AMCXXL and his fellow aircraft trackers have something similar.

The schedule for the forces and means of the operational-tactical and army aviation (AA) of the enemy, which operate in the Southern operational zone (Tavria and Crimean operational areas) as of the morning of 10/28/2023.

Dzhankoy Air Base:
Ka-52 - 5
Mi-28 - 3
Mi-24\35 - 1
Mi-8\17 - 7

AB Small Arms:
Ka-52 - 3
Mi-24\35 - 2
Mi-8\17 - 2

Guards AB:
Su-24M – 8
Su-25 – 10
Mi-28 - 2

AB Belbek:
Su-34 - 3
Su-27\30 - 10
Mig-31BM – 4

AB Saki:
Su-24M – 3
Su-30SM – 12
Mig-29 - 2

Kirovskoe AB:
Su-30SM – 6
Ka-52 - 6
Mi-24\35 - 6
Mi-8\17 - 15

AB Kacha:
Mi-8\17 - 6

Thus, a total of 58 combat aircraft and 58 helicopters are based on the AB located on the territory of the occupied peninsula of Crimea, of which 28 are attack helicopters (helicopters of fire support of troops). This is something that can be quickly used precisely in the Kherson and Zaporozhye directions, as well as "in relation" to the Nikolaev and Odessa regions, in the airspace over the northwestern, western and central parts of the Black Sea.

2.In the Southern operational Zone, there are operational-tactical and army aviation of the enemy from the AB located in the Rostov region and the Krasnodar Territory of the Russian Federation, although, of course, the Donetsk operational area is the main one for them

However, they also operate in the Mariupol and Berdyansk directions.

Primorsko-Akhtarsk AB:
Su-34 - 3
Su-25 – 17
Mig-31BM – 7
AB Crimean:
Su-27\30CM - 24
Ka-52 - 3
Mi-24\35 - 2
Mi-8\17 - 2

Rostov-on-Don AB:
Mi-28 - 2
Mi-24\35 - 1
Mi-8\17 - 18
Mi-26 - 1

AB Taganrog:
Su-25 - 4
Ka-52 - 7
Mi-28 - 3
Mi-24\35 - 2
Mi-8\17 - 15

AB Yeisk:
Su-25 – 9
Su-30SM – 2
Mi-8\17 - 1

AB Kushchevskaya:
Su-35-5

AB Zernograd:
Su-30SM – 1
Ka-52 - 6
Mi-28 - 4
Mi-24\35 - 2
Mi-8\17 - 15
Mi-26 – 10

AB Korenovsk:
Mi-28 - 11
Mi-24\35 - 7
Mi-8\17 - 13
Mi-26 – 6

Anapa AB:
Su-24M – 9

AB Tikhoretsk:
Su-35-5

It is not a fact that all these forces and means are involved in the Mariupol or Berdyansk directions, but it is obvious that a significant part of them directly "works" there.