Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

@charly0153
Avdeevka @rybar_force


@MyLordBebo
BREAKING: Russia’s new live stream drone tactic!

A new type of Geran’ (Shaheed) drone was discovered by Ukraine. It has no warhead on board, but live stream video and mobile connection equipment with a Ukrainian KyivStar SIM Card.

The drone flies deep into enemy territory over a specific route and streams via Ukrainian mobile connection live pictures.

Russian drone operators check the actual positions of potential targets and immediately send (a now explosive) missiles or drones to eliminate the target.

Depending of the urgency, they can send another (slow) drone, a Kalibr cruise missile or even a hypersonic Kinzhal. So moving the assets after each attack will not work anymore.

^^^
Not the first time Ukrainians find drones with SIM cards. They also found FPVs with SIM receivers!

What is the scariest for me, it's not the high-tech stuff, but COTS, low-tech, dirt cheap, creative engineering that strikes like a knife to the side.

Steadily but surely the west is now accepting defeat, albeit after sending thousands of Ukranians to their death.

GarryB wrote:

My biggest criticism of the Lingiust system is why the *uck are they using a droning male voice. These guys have been stuck at the front hearing male voices. Don't the Russians realize the power for a motherly female voice? for fucks sake. How can Russians be so smart and so dumb at the same time.

The west has turned you mate... your biggest criticism is you don't agree with their gender choices for a computer programme... guys at the front follow orders from mens voices all the freaken time, do you think they will hear another male voice and simply refuse?

Russian pilots are used to nagging nadia, but do you think they would ignore warnings to eject from a male fake computer voice.

I believe they call it a first world problem being upset about the gender of a computer generated voice providing instructiions and advice to soldiers in combat.

I did delete a double post of Johns at the start of this page BTW.

Why do you think they have nagging nadia in planes. After ALL that research why did they use a female voice? Female voices go all the way back to our primary care giver. The men are hearing male voices predominantly during war, now you want to urge them to surrender and save their lives. Who'ss voice do you think they will respond to. Its not about womens rights or any of that BS, its effectiveness of the system. Of wanting these men to pay attention to the message and grab their attention and think of seeing their mother or sister or girlfriend again.

About this drone and other drones , I think they all use GPS or camera to relay info . The greatest weakness is in data link to satellite or radio tower being physically attacked and data being jammed . Can drones have internal passive navigation and automated AI , target identification ? Can drone fly to general area by magnetic compass or starlight navigation and use software similar to face recognition ( Tank recognition ) instead , while in general area for precise flight ? Mobile phone software exists that point the phone to the sky and by starlight , identifies stars or ground location ?

The future is not for us to see ! Or is it ? Will Russia be victorious or is victorious ? We do not know the actual future conditions , but we can imagine the hypothetical possibilities . And I can not imagine the Orcs , ever remaining in power and governing Ukraine , or whatever is left of it ! Can you see a future , in your mind's eye , these extremists being able to rule ? The future IS for us to see .


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@ MNZTR

If you are talking about encouraging troops to surrender , agree female voice more effective , but also smell of fresh cut Grass and baked Bread .......

Steadily but surely the west is now accepting defeat, albeit after sending thousands of Ukranians to their death.

Russia was always going to win, because the US painted them into a corner and gave them no other choices.

The fact that they are trying to sell it to suggest Russia has turned the tide now suggests they have no idea of what has been happening, so don't expect much from them at all... other than what was obvious.

Why do you think they have nagging nadia in planes.

Getting instructions from your own aircraft about abandoning that aircraft for your own safety is one thing (you don't want your heroes to try to save doomed aircraft... you can make new planes), but sending voice messages to enemy forces is something completely different... if you used womens voices then Ukrainian Intel will just tell their troops.... hey look... they are running out of men too... so we are winning... If they are told to surrender by womens voices they might think they are surrendering to women and when they find they are not women they might do something stupid and end up getting shot, which destroys the whole programme because the enemy will use that as evidence they shouldn't surrender because you will get shot anyway.

I think they all use GPS or camera to relay info

They would use wifi datalink to send video footage, with another drone flying overhead finding targets and confirming kills or if the target needs to be attacked again the suicide drone could transmit its data to that drone which is a bigger drone that could relay the signal because it is flying higher than the low flying attack drones.

GPS signals just require a receiver on the drone... cellphones have such things... you need a battery, a piece of circuitry the size of your thumbnail and an antenna... cellphones and drones already have the battery and antenna so a thumbnail sized chip is all it needs to receive precise navigational information.

The greatest weakness is in data link to satellite or radio tower being physically attacked and data being jammed .

Satellite links would be very difficult to jam because you would need to get between the drone and the satellite. Radio towers... more like satellite dish like structures you could carry in a bag. The Russians will have these as part of its comms equipment with backups and will also be hunting enemy equivalents and systems.

Can drones have internal passive navigation and automated AI , target identification ?

Inertial navigation is good enough most of the time with occasional updates from sat nav... optical systems with image processing and cellphone level processing power... more than the US used to get men to the moon, can look through the image presented by a camera on board to find targets and identify them and attack them... but most of the time the targets have already been found by a higher flying recon drone which watches the FPV or suicide drone fly to the target coordinates and attack the target.

Mobile phone software exists that point the phone to the sky and by starlight , identifies stars or ground location ?

These FPV drones and suicide drones are not flying enormous distances and are unlikely to get lost.

If you are talking about encouraging troops to surrender , agree female voice more effective

I would say you couldn't say one way or the other without testing, and that they probably did test and the fact that they use a male voice suggests they are not ready to take orders from women... remember this is different from nagging nadia because this is a case of talking to the enemy... a Russian pilot is likely to listen to a warning system on his own aircraft and a female voice might relax him in what is otherwise a very stressful situation, but I don't see how you can claim the enemy (Ukrainians) are more likely going to listen to a Russian woman telling them to surrender as they are a Russian man telling them to surrender.

a female voice

A female voice was chosen back in the 70´s so that the pilot knows it´s the warning system of his aircraft and
not some command from his superiour on the ground.

For the first time since Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, it looks as if he could win.

What f...ing morons. Under which rock did they sit in the last 21 months?

A new type of Geran’

Geran is much bigger. And why would Russians use a SIM card from Kiev?

Colonel Snow has arrived

So has General Frost.

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (as of December 2, 2023)

In the period from November 25 to December 2, 2023, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 27 group strikes with precision weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles on military airfield infrastructure, arsenals, places of storage of artillery ammunition, weapons, military equipment and fuel bases.

In addition, the locations of the AFU units were affected. All assigned objects are hit.

In the Kupyansk direction, units of the "Western" grouping of troops improved the position along the front edge in the area of the settlement of Sinkovka, Kharkiv region, and repelled 18 enemy attacks.

Air strikes and artillery fire defeated the manpower and equipment of the 10th mountain assault, 57th motorized infantry, 14th, 43rd, 53rd and 67th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Sinkovka, Ivanovka and Kislovka in the Kharkiv region.

The enemy's losses during the week amounted to over 315 soldiers, two tanks, eight armored combat vehicles, 15 vehicles and seven field artillery guns.

In the Krasno-Limansky direction, units of the Center group of forces, with the support of aviation, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems, repelled thirteen attacks by assault groups of the 12th Special Purpose Brigade, the 47th and 67th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In addition, clusters of manpower of the 31st National Guard Brigade, as well as the 117th and 125th territorial defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Torskoye, Krasny Liman, Serebryanka and Grigorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic were defeated.

The total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area amounted to more than 950 servicemen killed and wounded, seven armored combat vehicles and 21 vehicles.

In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" group of troops, with the support of aviation and artillery fire, continued to improve the situation along the front line and liberated the settlement of Artemovskoye in the Donetsk People's Republic.

Also, fire damage was inflicted on the personnel and equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Marinka, Kurdyumovka and Kleshcheyevka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Over the past week, Russian units have repelled 17 enemy attacks in this area.

The enemy's losses amounted to more than 1,680 soldiers, six tanks, six armored combat vehicles, 31 vehicles and 19 field artillery guns.

In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of forces repelled three enemy attacks.

Air strikes and artillery fire inflicted fire damage on units of the 58th motorized Infantry, 72nd mechanized brigades and the 128th Brigade of the Territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novomikhailovka, Staromayorskoye, Nikolskoye, Shevchenko, Konstantinovka and Novodonetsky of the Donetsk People's Republic.

The enemy's losses during the week amounted to over 880 military personnel, a tank, six armored combat vehicles, 20 vehicles and five field artillery guns.

In the Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian troops conducted an active defense, during which they repelled 14 enemy attacks in the areas of the settlements of Rabodino and Verbovoye in the Zaporozhye region.

In addition, fire damage was inflicted on the manpower and equipment of the 71st Jaeger, 82nd airborne assault, 33rd, 65th and 118th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Malaya Tokmachka and Novoandreevka of the Zaporozhye region.

The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the specified period amounted to up to 315 military personnel, five tanks, seven armored combat vehicles, 21 vehicles and five field artillery guns.

In the Kherson direction, the enemy made unsuccessful attempts to land combat groups on the islands and the left bank of the Dnieper.

As a result of the pre-emptive actions of Russian troops and artillery fire raids, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area for a week amounted to 450 military personnel, 13 field artillery guns, 23 boats and 26 cars. Two enemy divisional reconnaissance groups have been destroyed.

Also, units of the 35th, 36th and 37th brigades of the AFU Marines were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Tyaginka, Tokarevka and Sadovoye in the Kherson region.

In addition, 14 Ukrainian servicemen were captured.

During the week, tactical aviation and missile forces of groups of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation hit: the fuel storage and parking of aviation equipment at the Mirgorod airfield in the Poltava region, as well as six P-18 radar stations.

During the week, eight Ukrainian Air Force aircraft and one helicopter were shot down by air defense means, including: five Mig-29s, two Su-27s, one Su-25, as well as an Mi-8 helicopter.

In addition, 41 HIMARS and Uragan multiple launch rocket systems, three HARM anti-radar missiles, as well as 188 unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 545 aircraft, 256 helicopters, 9353 unmanned aerial vehicles, 442 anti-aircraft missile systems, 13743 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1187 multiple rocket launchers, 7215 field artillery and mortars, as well as 15,844 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12488906@egNews

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:@charly0153
Avdeevka @rybar_force


@MyLordBebo
BREAKING: Russia’s new live stream drone tactic!

A new type of Geran’ (Shaheed) drone was discovered by Ukraine. It has no warhead on board, but live stream video and mobile connection equipment with a Ukrainian KyivStar SIM Card.

The drone flies deep into enemy territory over a specific route and streams via Ukrainian mobile connection live pictures.

Russian drone operators check the actual positions of potential targets and immediately send (a now explosive) missiles or drones to eliminate the target.

Depending of the urgency, they can send another (slow) drone, a Kalibr cruise missile or even a hypersonic Kinzhal. So moving the assets after each attack will not work anymore.

so one more month for avdiivkas capture?

In the last days of the war Himmler turned against Hitler (sort of).
He ignored orders and started negotations with the western powers via Sweden.

Those Ukros are really into repeating anything their role models did.

https://rutube.ru/video/7824f23665ca52ece64ce31f0a3211aa/
https://t.me/KotNaMirotvorze/18284

Two videos about the Russian fortifications in the area of the SVO.

Ukraine blew up a fuel train in a tunnel no less on the mainline to China in Buryatia


https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/12/01/shoigu-says-125k-ukrainian-troops-killed-in-counteroffensive-a83283

Russia needs to hit all SBU offices, kill as many of there agents and there support staff as possible

Zaluzhny vs. Zelensky: Top Ukrainian General Surpasses President in Approval Rating, by Sputnikglobe.com. 12.02.2023.

Reports suggest there is a major spat between the chief of Ukraine's military and the head of state after the much-touted "counteroffensive" against Russia failed, leading only to dramatic casualties and growing fatigue in the West.

Ukrainians trust the Commander-in-Chief General Valeriy Zaluzhny more than President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to the results of a recent sociological survey, the Strana.ua newspaper reported.

According to the data, Zaluzhny has a 82% approval rating, while Zelensky is at 72%. Likewise, 63% of citizens fully trust the commander and 19% tend to trust him more, while for the Ukrainian leader these numbers are 39% and 33%, respectively).

According to the "Rating" data, Zelensky began losing the trust of citizens from July, as noted by the publication.

In the hypothetical scenario of elections featuring both Zelensky and Zaluzhny, neither would secure victory in the first round (47.4% of voters would hypothetically support the president, and 30.7% the commander). In the second round, the votes would be almost evenly distributed: 42% for Zelensky and 40% for Zaluzhny.

Last month, Bloomberg cited data from the Kiev International Institute of Sociology in presenting different information: according to KMIS, Zelensky's approval rating decreased from the wartime peak of 91% but still remains high at 76%.

It came amid media reports of a growing internal conflict between the political and military leadership of Ukraine. The Economist has claimed that relations between Zelensky and Zaluzhny are described in their circles as "terrible."

In an interview with The Economist earlier last month, the general stated that the situation on the battlefield had reached a deadlock, while Zelensky disagreed with his evaluation.

Ukraine's political leadership denies any conflict between the president and the chief of the Armed Forces. "There has never been any tension between the political and military leadership," said the speaker of the country's parliament, Ruslan Stefanchuk, in an interview with Politico, calling such ideas "rumors."

Presidential elections in Ukraine are scheduled for March 2024. According to Ukrainian legislation, holding elections is impossible under the current martial law. Zelensky stated recently that he is prepared to hold elections, but the majority of Ukrainians are against it.

The Russian leadership has repeatedly spoken about the failure of Kiev's counteroffensive and significant losses for Ukraine. The day before, Russia's defense minister stated that since the beginning of the counteroffensive, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have lost more than 125,000 people and 16,000 units of weapons.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20231202/zaluzhny-vs-zelensky-top-ukrainian-general-surpasses-president-in-approval-rating-1115345819.html

As part of a special military operation, the Russian army uses about 300 aircraft out of one and a half thousand, partially realizing its potential in the air. Official representative of the Ukrainian Air Force Yuriy Ignat stated this in an interview on the YouTube channel of journalist Dmitry Gordon (recognized as a foreign agent in the Russian Federation ) .

According to the serviceman, Russian planes and helicopters make combat sorties from 30-40 airfields, five of them are in Crimea .

The day before , the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that Russian soldiers shot down eight Ukrainian planes and one helicopter from November 25 to December 2.

Prior to this, the Russian defense department reported that fighter jets of the Aerospace Forces (VKS) of the Russian Federation destroyed a MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the sky over the village of Mezhevoye, Donetsk People's Republic.

In total, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, since the beginning of the special military operation, 545 aircraft and 256 helicopters have been destroyed.

Earlier, Russian air defense systems destroyed five Ukrainian drones in the LPR.

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2023/12/02/21837937.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

@GeromanAT
Russian TG channel reports:
Battles near Avdeevka: The Russian Army advances forward with fierce fighting

Yesterday there was information about stormtroopers occupying the first line of houses in the village of Stepovoye. Also, our troops, with heavy fighting, are moving south of the village along the plantings.
These data allow us to conclude that the northern claw is gradually expanding and growing.
At the northern end of the right (northern flank), fighting is going on in the direction of Novokalinovo.
On the left (southern) flank and in the south (in the industrial zone) the front line has not changed much. In the direction of Tonenky and Severny, advancement is complicated by a large number of open spaces.
Every day Avdeevka, the plant and its surrounding settlements are subjected to powerful artillery and air strikes.

What do the enemies say?
Enemy military bloggers report that southeast of Stepovoy, our troops have advanced and entrenched themselves along the forest belt north of the Avdeevsky coke plant (up to 140 meters deep), and are also fighting in the Stepovy area.
The American Institute for the Study of War confirmed that Russian troops have advanced east and southeast of Stepovoy.

Analytics by Yuri Podolyaki


@MilitarySummary
#UkraineRussiaWar
Zelensky will not begin mobilization until he receives a 100% guarantee from Zaluzhny, who is hesitating and holding secret negotiations with Moscow. Meanwhile, the Russians are advancing in every direction, taking advantage of the confusion in the Ukrainian government.

Geranki in the air again

Ukraine is the most corrupt nation on earth

No, that´s the US.

taking advantage of the confusion in the Ukrainian government.

Sure.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Although noone in Russia wants this deal, if they cannot get advantages on the ground, then they will lose the war - post 2025, NATO will reach the desired production volumes of 155mm, and Ukraine already matches Russia for Drone volume, having enough to spare on individual servicemen as we see on endless Twitter videos, and they also look to reaching adequate volumes of HIMARS, Air defense, EW, and other important factors for Ukraine

So Russia has 2 years, 2024-2025 to win, or if Ukraine survives to 2026, it will be a defeat for Russia, with the only caveat, that if Ukraine take back all their territories, the land itself will be ruined and Ukraine remains a dead country

What makes you think that Russia won't have its own increased production of artillery by then? They just put the Malva and the Coalition into service. They are building more Tornado systems.

As for drone volume. Ukraine might have had more FPV drones than Russia at one moment, because the Russian MoD did not see the point given they already had the Orlan and Lancet, but once they figured out the cost-performance benefit, this changed and now you see dedicated factories being built, and FPV drone design being made in Russia. The truth is Russia has more FPV drones in the field than Ukraine at this point and they are of higher quality.

Ukrainian air defense is pathetic. The West cannot supply it in any meaningful numbers. And I have seen no actual effort to change this with a collection of hodge podge systems being delivered in dribs and drabs. And let us not even talk about their EW which might as well be non-existent.

Reaction of AFU soldiers after receiving "more" ammunition


Note the use of a civilian vehicle to deliver ammunition