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    Post  flamming_python Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:43 pm

    65 or not, he would have been granted a more dignified retirement plan, than a sudden demotion post inspection from the head of the Pacific Fleet to being in charge of military sports - had his fleet proved to be in a decent state. Clearly it ain't. But after the Moskva nothing surprises me any more. Spent his duty hours keeping his armchair warm or relaxing in the banya, more than likely. Never-mind there's a war on. And there's a lot more Admirals like that where he came from.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:38 pm

    Yes getting personnel right is important

    More money can be allocated to the fleet but only after clear review of the personnel and planning structures

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:50 am

    Sudden test set in motion ships, submarines and aircraft
    https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2023-04-20/1_1233_fleet.html?print=Y

    Putin's remark probably means that the fleet may be used to somehow aid the PRC in the upcoming Taiwan crisis.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:33 am

    I suspect Putin is smart enough to realise that the US might not actually go for the obvious and might actually want Japan to try to take back its northern Islands and for Georgia to attack South Ossetia and for Finland to try to reclaim land they think belongs to them... all at once...

    He is probably smart enough to know the west is desperate and really doesn't know what it is doing so expect anything at all... the US has blown up German gas pipes... who is to say they wont blow up Japanese pipes from Russia too.

    The US are the irrational actors they claim other countries are and right now who knows what they might do.

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    Post  franco Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:47 pm


    Admiral Viktor Liina, who served as commander of the Baltic Fleet, was appointed to the post of commander of the Pacific Fleet (Pacific Fleet), TASS reports citing a source. In this post, he replaced Admiral Sergei Avakyants.

    Liina has served as Commander of the Baltic Fleet since October 2021. According to TASS, he was replaced in his post by Vice Admiral Vladimir Vorobyov . Prior to that, Vorobyov served as Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces .

    Earlier, RIA Novosti wrote that Liina was being considered as a likely candidate for the post of commander of the Pacific Fleet.

    The presidential representative in the Far Eastern Federal District, Yuri Trutnev , said during a meeting with the heads of the regions that the commander of the Pacific Fleet, Sergei Avakyants, was appointed to a new position.

    https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2023/04/21/20262211.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 13, 2023 12:36 pm

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    Four new ships will join the Black Sea Fleet by the end of the year.

    3 x "Karakurt" class corvettes, which are Caliber Cruise Missile carriers and potentially with Zircon hypersonic missiles and Pr. 22160 Large Patrol Boat

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    Post  franco Sat May 13, 2023 3:13 pm

    Admiral Nikolay Evmenov, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, congratulated veterans and personnel of the Black Sea Fleet on the 240th anniversary of its foundation.

    NOTE: in addition the Baltic Fleet will celebrate it's 320th anniversary later this year.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12467177@egNews

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue May 30, 2023 9:37 am

    May 29, 23:29
    Up to 36 ships, boats and vessels will enter the Russian Navy in 2023
    Since the beginning of the year, the fleet has already received six ships and vessels of various classes.

    MOSCOW, May 30. /TASS/. Since the beginning of 2023, the Russian Navy has received 6 ships and vessels of various classes, and another 30 ships, boats and vessels are expected to arrive by the end of the year. This was reported on Monday in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    "Since the beginning of the year, the Navy has received 6 ships and vessels of various classes. As planned, about 30 more warships, boats and support vessels are expected by the end of 2023," the message says on the occasion of summing up the training results for the winter training period at the Main Command of the Navy.

    At a meeting of the Military Council of the Navy, Commander-in-Chief Admiral Nikolai Evmenov said that during the winter all the planned tasks facing the fleet had been successfully completed. Crews of ships and submarines have been trained, tactical groups of ships have been coordinated.

    It was noted that units of the coastal troops continue to participate in a special military operation, and also carry out assigned tasks in Syria.

    In addition, within the framework of international military cooperation, joint exercises were held in February with the naval forces of South Africa and the People's Liberation Army of China, and in March with ships of the Iranian Navy. In matters of operational training, the Northern and Pacific fleets were noted from the best side.

    The meeting also discussed operational and combat training, the activities of coastal troops, the implementation of the state defense order in the interests of the Navy, the heating season, the repair and maintenance of barracks facilities, engineering networks. Attention was also paid to the state of military discipline and law and order, the protection of the rights of servicemen and their families, and the implementation of social guarantees.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/17874371


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    Post  franco Tue May 30, 2023 2:24 pm

    MOSCOW, May 30. /TASS/. The United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) is building and repairing sixty two ships for the Russian Navy, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Tuesday.

    "The corporation is engaged in construction and repair of sixty two ships in interests of the Navy," the minister said.

    The work on five submarines and six surface ships is at the closing stage, Shoigu noted.


    https://tass.com/defense/1625073

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm

    To Franco....

    I hope that those submarines are nearing the end of their modernization and that they are K-132 Irkutsk (949AM), K-328 Leopard (971M).
    I assume that the work should then be near the end on the K-461 Volk (971M). I am convinced that among those submarines B-138 Obninsk (671RTMK) is included, as well as the B-448 Tambov, which is also a submarine of the 671RTMK project.
    All other submarines are likely to be nearing the end of their overhaul in the next year or the next few years.

    As for the ships, I hope that this is the end of the modernization work for Admiral Chabanenko and Admiral Nakhimov.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:50 am

    Today is the birthday of the most powerful Russian fleet.

    May 31, 23:23
    The Northern Fleet of Russia celebrates the 290th anniversary of its creation

    Soon, the latest Project 22350 frigate "Admiral Golovko" will join its fleet.

    MOSCOW, June 1. /TASS/. The operational-strategic formation of the Navy (Navy) Northern Fleet celebrates on Thursday the 290th anniversary of its creation. In the near future, Russia's largest fleet will become even more powerful - its fleet will be replenished by the latest Project 22350 frigate Admiral Golovko, armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles. In 2024, the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov and the heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov, which are completing their modernization, will return to combat duty.

    The Northern Fleet is the only association that has unique ships of the oceanic zone - the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser of project 1143.5 "Admiral Kuznetsov" of the Fleet of the Soviet Union and the heavy nuclear missile cruiser of project 1144.2 "Pyotr Veliky". The aircraft carrier will return to combat service next year after the completion of repairs and modernization at the Sevmash shipyard. In 2024, the fleet will be strengthened by the Project 1144.2 heavy nuclear missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov, which is also completing a major overhaul and deep modernization at the plant in Severodvinsk.

    According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in the near future, the carrier of sea-based hypersonic weapons, the Project 22350 frigate Admiral Golovko, built at the Severnaya Shipyard, will complete tests and enter the combat fleet. Today, the Severomorians have two units of this project - the frigates "Admiral of the Fleet Gorshkov" and "Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov". Earlier, the commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Alexander Moiseev, told reporters that by 2033, the carriers of long-range high-precision weapons, including hypersonic weapons - Project 22350 frigates, will form the basis of the fleet's general-purpose forces.

    The Northern Fleet has a powerful submarine force, which includes 7 strategic submarines: nuclear-powered submarines of project 667BDRM "Dolphin", projects 955 "Borey" and 955A "Borey-A". It is the Borei, according to Admiral Moiseev, that in the coming decades will be the basis of naval strategic nuclear forces. Today in the Navy they are represented by the lead cruiser Yuri Dolgoruky and the modernized missile carrier Prince Vladimir. In the future, they will be joined by the nuclear-powered ships Prince Pozharsky, Dmitry Donskoy and Prince Potemkin, which are being built at the Sevmash shipyard.

    The basis of the general-purpose submarine forces of the Northern Fleet in the future will be nuclear submarines of project 885M Yasen-M and diesel-electric submarines of projects 636.3 Varshavyanka and 677 Lada. The Severomorsky Yasenis are represented by the lead ship of project 885 Severodvinsk and the nuclear-powered vessel Kazan built according to the modernized project 885M. Already next year they will be strengthened by Arkhangelsk, and then by Ulyanovsk and Voronezh. The Russian Defense Ministry also signed contracts for the construction of six submarines. At the Admiralty Shipyards, three boats of project 636.3 and three boats of project 677 - Velikie Luki, Vologda and Yaroslavl - will be built for the North Sea submariners.

    The day of the Northern Fleet was established by order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Felix Gromov, dated July 15, 1996. By order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, dated May 25, 2014, it was determined that the Northern Fleet was formed in 1733. The period of the creation of a military port in Arkhangelsk and the construction of a squadron of ships, whose area of ​​responsibility was the White and Barents Seas, was taken as a basis.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/17896917

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:39 pm

    Warships of the main classes of the Russian Navy as of 06/01/2023

    * Light green and dark green color; ACTIVE...
    * Blue color; in service or in extensive tests.
    * Yellow color; overhaul, modernization...
    * Gray colour; uncertain status or decommissioned..


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    Post  franco Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:55 pm

    Ukrainian warships remaining in Crimea since 2014 have been handed over for disposal. This was reported to Izvestia on June 9 by sources in the military department.

    We are talking about the missile boat "Pridneprovye", the artillery boat" Kherson", the sea minesweeper" Chernihiv", the corvette" Khmelnitsky", the sea minesweeper" Cherkasy "and the corvette"Lutsk".

    Earlier, on May 31, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, said that the last warship of the Navy by the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) in the port of Odessa.

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.57a195c3-6483035e-82e3b841-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1525957/2023-06-09/ostavshiesia-v-krymu-ukrainskie-boevye-korabli-utiliziruiut?main_click

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    Post  AMCXXL Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:06 am

    franco wrote:Ukrainian warships remaining in Crimea since 2014 have been handed over for disposal. This was reported to Izvestia on June 9 by sources in the military department.

    We are talking about the missile boat "Pridneprovye", the artillery boat" Kherson", the sea minesweeper" Chernihiv", the corvette" Khmelnitsky", the sea minesweeper" Cherkasy "and the corvette"Lutsk".

    Earlier, on May 31, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, said that the last warship of the Navy by the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) in the port of Odessa.

    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.57a195c3-6483035e-82e3b841-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1525957/2023-06-09/ostavshiesia-v-krymu-ukrainskie-boevye-korabli-utiliziruiut?main_click

    I wonder .... what about to Konstantin Olshansky BDK-56 ??

    It is possible that the Ukrainians broke the engines before being captured, but it would be a good reinforcement, especially considering that there are very old pr.1171 "alligator" boats that need replacement, one even was lost in the war


    Former ships of the Ukrainian Navy in Sevastopol handed over for disposal
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4710410.html

    According to the Black Sea Fleet Telegram channel , the dismantling of a number of former ships and boats of the Ukrainian naval forces that have remained in Sevastopol and Donuzlav since the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation in March 2014 has begun in Sevastopol. For nine years they were on the sludge.


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    Former ships and boats of the Ukrainian Navy delivered to the ship-breaking base in Inkerman in Sevastopol - from left to right: Project 12411T missile boat "Pridniprovya", Kherson artillery boat (former project 1388 torpedo launcher), Project 266M sea minesweeper Chernigiv, corvette " Khmelnytsky" of project 12412, sea minesweeper "Cherkasy" of project 266M, corvette "Lutsk" of project 1124MU. Far left - decommissioned sea minesweeper project 266M of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy (apparently, "Electric"), June 2023 (c) Telegram channel "Black Sea Fleet"


    The channel provides photographs of former ships of the Ukrainian Navy transferred to the ship-breaking base in Inkerman - corvettes "Lutsk" of project 1124MU and Khmelnitsky " of project 12412, sea minesweepers "Cherkasi" and Chernigiv " of project 266M, missile boat Pridniprov'ya " of project 12411T and artillery boat "Kherson" (former torpedo project 1388).

    In turn, according to the Zen channel "Morskoy", in the center of the city of Sevastopol, in the South Bay, the floating crane of the Black Sea Fleet PK-3100 prepared to disassemble the floating crane of the Navy "

    reported that "Ukrainian warships that have remained in Crimea since 2014 have been transferred for disposal. Izvestia was informed about this on June 9 by sources in the military department."

    According to the channel "Morskoy", "the reason for the decisions taken is very simple. Over the past 9 years, this scrap metal has been constantly rearranged from one berth to another, because it interfered with the daily activities of the Black Sea Fleet. It was also necessary to allocate constant funding for the maintenance of this fleet. Russia the fleet is large. And there are not enough free berths for "non-combatant" units. And even more so money. The situation no longer allows the ships to be returned to the previous owners. Therefore, there was only one way out - to put them on pins and needles.

    According to Morskoy, the only thing that can be of value is the Kremenets tugboat . The ship was built in Finland for the Soviet Navy. The Finns built well. Shortly before 2014, he underwent repairs and could continue to serve in the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. All other ships are too old and dilapidated, they do not represent any value for the Russian Navy. "


    In total, 19 former ships, boats and vessels of the Ukrainian Navy remained in Crimea by the beginning of 2022:


    Large diesel-electric submarine U 01 Zaporizhzhya - the former B-435 project 641

    Control ship U 510 "Slavutich" - under construction SSV-189 "Pridneprovie" project 12884

    Corvette U 205 "Lutsk"MPK-85 project 1124MU

    Corvette U 209 "Ternopil" project 1124MU

    Corvette U 208 "Khmelnitsky" - former MPK-116 project 12412

    Missile boat U 155 "Pridniprov'ya" - former P-54 (before "Krasnodar Komsomolets" ) project 12411T

    Artillery boat U 891 "Kherson" - former torpedo TL-1616 of project 1388

    Marine minesweeper U 310 "Chernigiv" - former "Aircraft gunner" of project 266M

    Marine minesweeper U 311 "Cherkasi" - former "Scout" of project 266M

    Large landing ship U 402 "Kostyantin Olshansky" - former BDK-56 "Konstantin Olshansky" of project 775

    Anti-sabotage boat U 240 "Feodosiya " - former P-99 of project PV1415

    Marine rescue tug U 705 "Kremenets" - former SB-524 project 714

    Large hydrographic boat U 635 "Skvira" - former BGK-697 project 1896

    Small hydrographic boat 662 - former MGK-1889 project 16830

    Road tug U 953 "Dubno" - former RB -295 project 737M Road boat

    926 project 376 " - former PK - 23050 of project 771 _ _








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    Former ships and boats of the Ukrainian Navy delivered to the ship-breaking base in Inkerman in Sevastopol - from left to right: Project 12411T missile boat "Pridniprovya", Kherson artillery boat (former project 1388 torpedo launcher), Project 266M sea minesweeper Chernigiv, corvette " Khmelnytsky" of project 12412, sea minesweeper "Cherkasy" of project 266M, corvette "Lutsk" of project 1124MU. Far left - decommissioned sea minesweeper project 266M of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy (apparently, "Electric"), June 2023 (c) Telegram channel "Black Sea Fleet"



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    The floating crane of the Black Sea Fleet PK-3100 begins dismantling the former floating crane of the Ukrainian Navy "Kalanchak". To the left of it stands the former oil and waste collector vessel of the Ukrainian Navy MUS-482. Sevastopol, June 2023 (c) Zen channel "Morskoy"


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:01 am

    This will free up more room for BSF ships & boats, & their guns (if any) could be used in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/v7NCo9T54U8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/03/11/those-weird-russian-vehicles-with-80-year-old-naval-turrets-might-have-an-air-defense-role/?sh=6dc2602c164f

    In other news: https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-747028
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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:12 am

    All new Russian frigates and corvettes will be armed with Zircons
    Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Evmenov: all under construction and new frigates and corvettes will be armed with Zircons

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    St. Petersburg, June 22 - RIA Novosti. All under construction and new frigates and corvettes will be armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Admiral Nikolai Evmenov told RIA Novosti at the International Naval Show in Kronstadt."
    "The frigate-type ships under construction and laid down will be armed with Zircons. Corvettes too," the source said.
    He noted that the Navy does not abandon the cruise missiles "Onyx" and "Kalibr". According to Evmenov, they proved their high reliability.

    In February, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that mass deliveries of Zircon sea-based hypersonic missiles to the Armed Forces would begin in 2023.

    https://ria.ru/20230622/tsirkon-1879729173.html

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    Post  franco Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:01 pm

    Romania is nervous about Moscow's plans to create an Azov naval flotilla based in Mariupol as part of Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

    Romanian experts indicate that the flotilla will include small missile ships of the Karakurt type, which carry Caliber cruise missiles, and remind that these missiles of the Russian Armed Forces strike at Ukrainian military facilities.

    The Azov Flotilla will interact with the Caspian Flotilla through the Volga-Don Canal. This will give Russia room to maneuver in the waters of the two seas and strengthen control over the Black Sea region. It is this fact that annoys Bucharest.

    The Black Sea has been declared a foreign policy priority by Romania, as it enters the outside world through the Black Sea. Bucharest's emphasis on maritime culture in Romania aims to nurture Romanians' maritime traditions and aspirations in order to make the country a leader in Southeast Europe. This can only be achieved by damaging Russian influence in the region. The appearance of the Azov military flotilla will confuse all the cards for the Romanian strategists.

    https://www-ritmeurasia-org.translate.goog/news--2023-07-01--rumynija-nedovolna-planami-rossii-sozdat-azovskuju-voennuju-flotiliju-67252?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  AMCXXL Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:22 am

    franco wrote:Romania is nervous about Moscow's plans to create an Azov naval flotilla based in Mariupol

    Romanian experts indicate that..

    The Azov Sea is an inland sea of Russia, it has nothing to do with Romania

    Romanians "experts" are pretty illiterate, maybe they should look at a map to see that Sevastopol is much closer to Romania than Mariupol, and when the Odessa region passes into Russia, they'll have the Russian Navy coming up the Danube

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:48 am

    .....they'll have the Russian Navy coming up the Danube

    Hahahaha... that sounds like a dirty euphemism... Twisted Evil

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:22 am

    Nope, it is all right Laughing
    Russia is still a member of Danube convention, but has not access to it.
    But soon it will. Twisted Evil
    I will gladly travel to friendly Budapest for a Navy parade involving some Buyans and Karakurts, you know Laughing

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    Post  AMCXXL Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 pm

    Yélizovo - Google Maps

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    The latest Google update shows up to 9 nuclear submarines, the total active Pacific nuclear submarine force
    - 3 Borey (including one on the west side of the bay)
    - 1 Delta III
    - 1 Yasen
    - 3 Oscar II
    - 1 Akula

    Probably taken last autumn after the Borey-5 "Knyaz Oleg" reached the Pacific

    The rest of Pacific submarine force are:
    - Borey-6 "Generalissimus Suvorov" in Barents Sea, to transfer Pacific after the summer
    - Borey-7 "Imperator Alexandr III" in Barents Sea, in trials
    - Yasen-4 "Krasnoyarsk" in Barents Sea, in trials
    - Oscar II "Irkutsk" in Zvezda, modernized in trials
    - Oscar II " Chelyabinsk" in modernization in Zvezda
    - Akula "K-331 ex-Madagan" repairs in Zvezda
    - Akula "Samara" in modernization in Zvyodozchka
    - Akula "Nerpa" unkonow status in Zvezda

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    from 5 July 2023. It's been a while since we've had a view.
    More empty than the past several times, 2x Oscar II (949A), 2x Borei Class (955A) & a Ropucha across the bay.
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    Post  AMCXXL Sat Jul 15, 2023 6:12 am

    New images of Zapadnaya Litsa, headquarters of the 11th Subnarine Division.
    - 3 Oscar II (including decommissioned Voronezh)
    - 1 Yasen
    another Yasen must be in the sea.

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    10 July 2023 of Guba Ara Sub base, HQ of 7th Submarine Division
    4 submarines:
    There are 2 Sierra II submarines, and a decommissioned Sierra I in the middle
    at the bottom, one Victor III. undoubtedly the Tambov after its repair in Nerpa since Obninsk is currently under repair at Nerpa Shipyard
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    Meanwhile in Severdvinsk you can see a Detla IV under repair, probably the Bryansk and another submarine being scrapped on a floating dock, seems one Kilo by the size.
    You can also see ships in reserve, such as the three Thypoon and the Kirov
    In the botton also ine Yasen, probably Krasnoyarsk while Borey Aleksander III seems to be at sea
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