Russian special military operation in Ukraine #52

i am surprised the Russians did not detect the missile deployments. Or maybe they did.

mnztr wrote:i am surprised the Russians did not detect the missile deployments. Or maybe they did.

They wouldn't sacrifice 1 il-76 for that.

They clearly lack ELINT planes. It's a shame for them to not be able to locate a soviet S-300 close to their border.

Peace means a Rope around the Orcs necks , and zero profits for MIC . Prisoner exchange gives too much hope for peace . Agree no error . The UK Brass predicts war with Russia , asking for mobilisation ! They know their misadventure in Ukraine coming to an end ! What they omit to say , is that war between nuclear powers , remains conventional for exactly one microsecond ! Those bloody nukes keeping the peace !

Geraniums in Odessa region!

Absolutely no evidence Jellyinsky is ultimate decision maker like Hitler . More a frontman popular TV personality , taking a Role nobody else wanted . The Orcs act collectively and with NATO leadership . Assuming stupidity about an enemy is negligence . Even if the Orcs survive the war , they will not survive the peace . The reason they chose war , was that they could not survive the peace . I heard attempts had been made to take out Jellyinsky . If he survived the war , he will not survive the peace .

Isos wrote:

mnztr wrote:i am surprised the Russians did not detect the missile deployments. Or maybe they did.

They wouldn't sacrifice 1 il-76 for that.

They clearly lack ELINT planes. It's a shame for them to not be able to locate a soviet S-300 close to their border.

What the hack are you even talking about, aside from just talking/barking
What we have for now, is that the most probable case is taken down by a "wandering" Buk system.
It operated from the Liptsy area, just hit and run tactics using heavily urbanized area surrounding Charkov.
The second - even more absurd - is that they made a missile trap knowing that 76s would transport POWs, as they used to multiple times.
Russkie marked two missiles used, but hardly anyone sane would consider they would take down their own 65 men on board, just for glory.
The second board with 80 more POWs was called back
Ukro infosphere is crystal clear for the event, most of them just switched off the comments, as the Ukrainians were busy tearing them to pieces in a rage.
I seriously suggest some of you to shut the fuk up until any proven data will be released, because what you are doing right now is just crap.

No need to shoot it deliberately. The malfunction rate and the scale of usage do the job.
They do shoot their own citizens on purpose, but with more media coverage.
"Heavenly hundred" was murdered by sniper fire in the back.
And that was 10 years ago, when they only started warming up.
Ukro elites learned about absolute impunity and the scale of money they can robe feel no shame.
So I am not quite sure what you are even talking about.

Ukraine kills its own, by Victoria Nikiforova for RiaNovosti. 01.24.2024.

Ukrainian air defense fired foreign missiles at the Russian Il-76 transport aircraft . The plane crashed, killing everyone on board. This is not just another bloody, senseless terrorist attack that will not delay the collapse of the Kyiv regime for a second.

This time the leadership of the former Ukrainian SSR has surpassed itself. The IL was flying on a humanitarian mission. There were 65 Ukrainian prisoners of war on board. These were Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers who were exchanged back to their homeland. The cynicism of the situation is difficult to imagine.

People who fought for Kyiv are returning home to their families. Yes, they are our opponents, but we are honest in observing the laws and customs of war: we treated them and fed them. They lived with us in human conditions. And so they were lucky to get on the exchange list. The relatives were notified - their wives and children were waiting for them at home.

But the plane was shot down by an air defense system of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and the newspaper "Ukrainian Pravda" cheerfully reported on this victory. How is this in the style of the Kyiv Nazis: kill their citizens, their defenders - and boast about it.

Now the publication is rapidly deleting links, but the Internet remembers everything. The British Guardian noted the boastful publication of the Ukrainian media.

It is unlikely that the wives, mothers and children of the dead prisoners missed this article. Their emotions, of course, are difficult to imagine. At first they let their relatives go to war, then they trembled for their fate, and finally they were able to calm down: Russian captivity is much better than a senseless death somewhere on the outskirts of Krynki. And then luck struck: their captors should be returned to Ukraine. But here they are killed in broad daylight in front of the whole world by their own authorities - even the Hitler regime did not stoop to this, by the way.

There is nothing fundamentally new in this terrorist attack. The Kiev regime has not hidden for a long time that the population under its jurisdiction is simply cannon fodder, which is cheaply exchanged for dollars for Zelensky and co. Throwing your soldiers to certain death near Artemovsk or Marinka - wasn’t this the same mass murder of their citizens?

Or take this surreal epic with Krynki, a supporter of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the left bank of the Dnieper . The Russian army grinds down Ukrainian fighters there day after day, but the command sends more and more unfortunates there. The footage of them crossing the Dnieper makes your blood run cold: on their little boats they are in full view - an easy target for our artillery. But they keep sending them there and sending them. For what?

In turn, the Wesseushniks, feeling that they are being betrayed by their own command, hide behind civilians, in fact taking them hostage - this is a classic practice of terrorists. The ruins of Mariupol are clear evidence that the Ukrainian military treats their compatriots as enemies.

Zelensky and Zaluzhny need this mass bloodshed like air: they monetize it. Then Zelensky’s relatives will buy another villa near the warm sea. His wife will go shopping in London. And the wives of the Ukrainian military who died senselessly today - what do they think about this bloody lottery?

They should especially thank the American and German patrons of Kyiv for this tragedy. Il-76 was shot down by foreign air defense. State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin has already suggested that deputies turn to the German Bundestag and the US Congress . Did you promise to support the Ukrainians there? But you kill them. You have unleashed such a terrorist regime on Square that, unable to reach the Russians, it attacks its own. All this hell was financed by you, it seemed to you that this was a “successful investment”.

Well, look how the people you deceived die. It will be especially useful for American and European taxpayers to learn about this story. Some of them sincerely believe that they are helping a “free democratic” Ukraine. Well, this is what this assistance actually looks like - it looks much more like sponsoring terrorism.

I don’t think that the attack on Il-76 was some kind of “tragic mistake”. The Russian transport aircraft is a famous and valuable aircraft; knocking it down is a great success. Russian pilots are the highest professionals, and there is a real hunt for them. That is, from a military point of view it was a very expensive goal.

And prisoners - what are prisoners? The Kyiv regime hates such people. At the front, a VSE officer who plans to surrender can easily be shot by his own commander. So why should they feel sorry for those whom they consider traitors? Only Russia will feel sorry for them : the second plane with the prisoners managed to turn around in time after the attack on the Il-76 and returned safely to the airfield.

The crew members of the deceased Il-76 showed outstanding courage and skill, managing to take the plane away from the populated area. Their courage and sacrifice is another difficult step towards our victory. They are heroes.

But what can we say about the Ukrainian military - victims of the terrorist attack? Their death is terrible in its absolute senselessness. These are Russian people, confused by the Kyiv maniacs and killed by them. Their death is a clear metaphor for the fate of all of Ukraine.

https://ria.ru/20240124/ukraina-1923249173.html

Backman wrote:
This IL76 was 100% shot down on purpose by Ukraine on a directive from the US. 
And anyone who doesn't understand that is naive and ignorant. Its the same move as the Maidan snipers, MH-17, you name it.
And no. It wasn't for the glory. What glory ? I never said that or implied it.

I will give you a hint.
This :

The second - even more absurd - is that they made a missile trap knowing that 76s would transport POWs, as they used to multiple times.

Is being called "sarcasm".
You can line it up with "naive" and "ignorant" at any moment, as soon as you will get the meaning.

ALAMO wrote:

Isos wrote:

mnztr wrote:i am surprised the Russians did not detect the missile deployments. Or maybe they did.

They wouldn't sacrifice 1 il-76 for that.

They clearly lack ELINT planes. It's a shame for them to not be able to locate a soviet S-300 close to their border.

What the hack are you even talking about, aside from just talking/barking
What we have for now, is that the most probable case is taken down by a "wandering" Buk system.
It operated from the Liptsy area, just hit and run tactics using heavily urbanized area surrounding Charkov.
The second - even more absurd - is that they made a missile trap knowing that 76s would transport POWs, as they used to multiple times.
Russkie marked two missiles used, but hardly anyone sane would consider they would take down their own 65 men on board, just for glory.
The second board with 80 more POWs was called back
Ukro infosphere is crystal clear for the event, most of them just switched off the comments, as the Ukrainians were busy tearing them to pieces in a rage.
I seriously suggest some of you to shut the fuk up until any proven data will be released, because what you are doing right now is just crap.

If they could destroy this one they could destroy any other plane flying there.

I would love to see a map with those claims because the 35km of the buk won't allow a cross border attack unless they bring it in front of russian lines.

This thing was either a patriot or a s-300.

Having them operating in an area known to be used by the ukro for their dirty revenge missions without any intel about it is a major failure for Russia.

Flying a il76 so close in an area they lost fighter jets near the front is also a major failure that adds to Moskva sinking, the 2 or 3 damaged/destroyed landing ships, the Kilo class destruction, il-22 hit, a-50 destruction...

They are loosing to many good stuff for no reason.

the Ukrainian AD is doing well

No, it is not. It can´t stop 60 year old missiles from hitting targets because
there are only single units left, not an integrated system.
They knew the place and time beforehand.
That was as easy to prepare as playing Poker with all your opponents
showing their hands.


The stuff seems to work.  
Third carrier after MT-LB and T-80.

According to information from Russian media, the crew of the downed IL-76 spent the last 40 seconds of their lives trying to take the falling plane away from the village over which it was shot down, probably preventing hundreds more victims.

Isos wrote:
If they could destroy this one they could destroy any other plane flying there.

Yes.
It is one-way operation they are focused on lately, having no chance to repeat.
Sometimes I really wonder if some of you are keen to read a map.
Reports suggest that the missiles were released from the Lyptsi area.
It is the range of Buk-M1 that is still operational in 404 forces.
It is even in range of IRIS.
After this attack, Russkie will cover the entire area with surveillance and land every plane in 70+ km distance, which will solve the case.

More on that pipe attack

GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
Ukrainian sources confirm:
Russians used an old pipe to break through the southern Avdeevka line - some say it is 2km long - other say 4km - how ever - that was a pretty stunning surprise for the defenders - Russian just popped up behind their lines - encircled them - and so broke a 10 years old fortification line.
(They did that before to take the industrial zone further east)


"Royal hunt. Underground landing operation.

Trip to the Royal Hunt, beginning.
On January 17, tigers from military reconnaissance marched through this pipe to the enemy’s rear to storm the Tsar’s Hunt.
A few weeks ago, this pipe looked even more apocalyptic, it was completely flooded and littered with rubbish accumulated over many years of neglect. The first dives into the hole were so dangerous (since no one knew what condition the pipe was in, and in the event of an emergency, its length would not allow leaving it in a timely manner) that the fathers-commanders of the reconnaissance forces personally reconnoitered the route, repeatedly going through the hole until the end of the pipe, so as not to put personnel at risk.

The scouts carried out colossal, absolutely inhuman work, clearing a hole in the icy water for several weeks, day and night, with manual labor, without lifts or drilling rigs to avoid noise, and all this for the sake of one single opportunity to strike a surprise blow to the enemy.
The opportunity was used to the maximum: military reconnaissance passed through the pipe without making a single sound - which in itself is a unique phenomenon, eliminated the sentinels, the OP, and, going behind enemy lines, eliminated the garrison of the enemy fortified area, without allowing it to come to its senses; later the forest to the west was cut off Central Election Commission, a significant part of the enemy fighters were captured, ending up in mini-cauldrons, after which the tigers attacked the enemy within the city limits, showing the highest level of maneuver warfare."


Illia Ponomarenko
@IAPonomarenko
The Tsarskaya Okhota ('the tsar's hunt').

It's a Ukrainian fortified position in the woods south of Avdiivka. In the Jurassic period, this used to be an out-of-town restaurant pretty close to a highway junction running into Donetsk.

And I believe it was the place I was embedded with the Ukrainian military for the first time as a Kyiv Post war reporter in early 2017, during the Battle of Avdiivka 2017.

There was... a lot of smoke and ashes.

And now in late 2023, it's absolutely incredible to read Z-channels whining about this very position STILL being an enormous pain in the ass to Russia's assaults against the fortress city.

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
IT’S GONNA GET UGLY. VERY UGLY.

If the usual suspects sideline popular Zaluzhny and install Budanov as the head of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, run for cover.

The AFU will be under total control of the CIA - and not NATO generals, as it’s still the case.

This will prevent a military coup against the sweaty sweatshirt.

But then comes hell: 404 will go Total Guerrilla, with only two objectives: to kill Russian civilians en masse and to destroy civilian infrastructure in Russia.

Moscow of course knows it.

Thus the need to go for the jugular. Fast.

Now enjoy Budanov giving a hard-on to a FT hack:

https://ft.com/content/98c005

No news from Avdeevka. I guess the Ukrainians are trying very hard right now trying to regain those southern strongholds they lost.

Christopher Ramsay
@IOTEChris
The video posted on @maria_avdv
timeline is 27 seconds, not the 17-second version most people have seen. There is a puff of thick smoke back along the aircraft flightline. It looks like a SAM strike.





Medvedev:

„The story of the destruction of the IL-76 plane is the result of the internal political struggle of neo-Nazi elites in Kiev. A war of pigs at the trough. Many have already written about this.

Bright memory to our pilots. They are heroes. Ukrainian families did not receive their captives from Russia.

It will only get worse from here: these trident-bearing monsters, to maintain their power, will easily kill their own servicemen and prisoners of war, as they learned in 700 days of their own war. They will ruthlessly bomb their cities and villages, reducing their homes to dust and turning their elderly and children into ashes. There are no limits for these yellow-blue creatures. After all, the main stakes are power and money.”

Backman wrote:

mnztr wrote:i am surprised the Russians did not detect the missile deployments. Or maybe they did.

They obviously had arrangements for the plane and has special clearance because it had Ukr POWs on it. 

And again , there was no errors here. They wanted to shoot it down even knowing there was POWs on board.

For inflicting the loss? someone or some people they wanted to finish? NOt wanting to pay back pay to the prisoners? (maybe that's why Russia published the list. )