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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:00 pm

    Apparently if you wander into a PFM-1 minefield, with lesochek or the plastic mine which looks like a toy

    You are screwed

    But they are detectable with FPV and FLIR sensor

    This helps to identify the presence of mines at certain times during the day, usually when it is the hottest because the plastic heats up and provides a contrast against the ground

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:09 pm

    pavi wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:Has Russia provided any concrete proof that the plane was carrying ukrainian pows?
    I warn you. This is not for sensitive persons...
    https://t.me/denatofication/7741

    Firewall is blocking Telegram unfortunately.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:21 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    pavi wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:Has Russia provided any concrete proof that the plane was carrying ukrainian pows?
    I warn you. This is not for sensitive persons...
    https://t.me/denatofication/7741

    Firewall is blocking Telegram unfortunately.

    NSFW Warning for body parts and crash footage.

    https://mega.nz/folder/Ngsk3TTA#sRWSrCYoem7G1O878dZApg

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    Post  DerWolf Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:27 pm

    Still no news from avdeevka, i guess there must be a hell a battles going on.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Still no news from avdeevka, i guess there must be a hell a battles going on.

    Yes, these images are ten days appart.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #52 - Page 36 Avdiiv11

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:39 pm

    One of the first warriors who participated in the preparation of the legendary operation to capture the “Tsar’s Hunt” died near Avdeevka.

    Exclusive footage shows the commander of the volunteer battalion "Redut" Pavel Fedorov with the call sign Pioneer. According to his relatives, while Pasha and the rest of the guys were working underground, many lacked oxygen due to the burners for cutting metal and the cramped conditions - some even lost consciousness. But despite this, everyone acted clearly and harmoniously.

    For his courage and heroism, Pioneer was included in the award lists back in 2023. But, unfortunately, he never lived to see the medal and the breakthrough of the Ukrainian defense - during the assault on the fortified area, Pavel was blown up by a mine. He is survived by his mother and little sister in Ramenskoye, near Moscow. So that Fedorov’s feat is not forgotten, friends shared an archived video with Mash.

    The kingdom of heaven is your warrior...

    https://t.me/avdeevkaru/46164

    ...who are these guys? Freaking lions

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:43 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:One of the first warriors who participated in the preparation of the legendary operation to capture the “Tsar’s Hunt” died near Avdeevka.

    Exclusive footage shows the commander of the volunteer battalion "Redut" Pavel Fedorov with the call sign Pioneer. According to his relatives, while Pasha and the rest of the guys were working underground, many lacked oxygen due to the burners for cutting metal and the cramped conditions - some even lost consciousness. But despite this, everyone acted clearly and harmoniously.

    For his courage and heroism, Pioneer was included in the award lists back in 2023. But, unfortunately, he never lived to see the medal and the breakthrough of the Ukrainian defense - during the assault on the fortified area, Pavel was blown up by a mine. He is survived by his mother and little sister in Ramenskoye, near Moscow. So that Fedorov’s feat is not forgotten, friends shared an archived video with Mash.

    The kingdom of heaven is your warrior...

    https://t.me/avdeevkaru/46164

    ...who are these guys? Freaking lions
    Totally unnecessary deaths for these fine men. They should be working in jobs and raising their families instead of being blown up by the mines.

    We would have never come to this had Russia had a capable leadership in 1991-2022.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:49 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Totally unnecessary deaths for these fine men. They should be working in jobs and raising their families instead of being blown up by the mines.

    We would have never come to this had Russia had a capable leadership in 1991-2022.

    Don't be so coy

    Putin restored Russia to 1.58 TFR birth rate , the data was release this week - Russia is achieving replacement rate with pro natal policy

    Putin made Russia 5th economy in the world

    Putin launched the SMO, allowing Russia to purge the 5th column and the liberals

    Putin made Russia #1 oil, grain exporter in the world

    Putin made Russia an industrial powerhouse outproducing the major neoliberal economies in all major categories

    Putin has returned Crimea, Donbass, Lughansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye to Russia and he is downloading the expansion pack

    Putin has turned the Russian army into the most battle hardened and experienced military in modern war

    Putin is going to be canonized by the ROC, he will be the most influential Russian leader by a significant factor, eclipsing the legacy of Stalin, and Peter the Great

    It is because of Putin, that we don't live in a Yankee - Chinese world, but in a Multipolar one

    PUTIN 2024 thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:05 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    NSFW Warning for body parts and crash footage.

    Thank you for linking to those clips.

    Up to perhaps 10,000 sqM with scattered body parts. The saddest part of it is that most of them onboard would have been alive for those seconds between the missile impact and the explosion. May they RIP.

    What a terrible clean up task for someone.

    Looking at those holes punched in the fuselage reminded me of the day I was watching MP.net when a similar punctured section of MH-17 was found. They probably have a very good idea by now what missile did that.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:43 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    Totally unnecessary deaths for these fine men. They should be working in jobs and raising their families instead of being blown up by the mines.


    In a perfect world, yes.
    But we do not live in one.

    Outside the "safe" barriers of our carefully formed "western world" the real world exists.
    It is a very nasty one, where geopolitical games are initiated and fought by western elites that lack any sympathy or values.

    Everything that stand against them are target's to be obliterated.
    Their own troops they use for these purposes are just cannon fodder, a registration number.
    ignorant fools to be used. The people they fight are sub-human.
    These wars fueled by the millitary industrial complex that only aims to increase their own profits.

    it does not matter how they achieve their goals, they align with the worst of humanity to achieve this.

    this war already has taken the lives of good men, and it will continue to do so.
    I talked with guys out there, i really hope they make it home.

    But this is war, there will be sacrifices.
    how should they go home?. they are fighting actually Nazi's fully supported by NATO on their border.

    An infantryman does not go out there to throw his life away.
    they know the risks, they want to make it home. Nobody wants to die.

    They just suit up and go, because it is an job that needs to be done.
    And when you are asked, you do not turn away.
    it means someone else will take your place because you lacked the spine for it.

    This war, is not going to win itself. It will require soldiers that go into trenches and shoot the Bandera Bastards in the face up close and personal.

    Those permanently injured need to be supported by the state, Those that fought with them recognized for their service regardless of being and PMC or not, and those that made the ultimate sacrifice always need to be honored.

    This war is not over, and the guys serving out there can not walk away.
    This war needs to be seen through to it's conclusion otherwise NATO will restart the entire thing again that will cost even more blood to win.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:04 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Putin is going to be canonized by the ROC, he will be the most influential Russian leader by a significant factor, eclipsing the legacy of Stalin, and Peter the Great

    It is because of Putin, that we don't live in a Yankee - Chinese world, but in a Multipolar one

    Putin is clearly a patient and cautious man, facets of his character that cause less astute people to call him weak. It is in fact quite the reverse, the weak willed will lash out on a provocation without evaluating the situation, whilst the strong will absorb the blow if the situation demands it.

    Putting it bluntly, Putin inherited a country on its knees, being financially raped by western bankers and protected by a military coming apart at the seems. That the US didn't complete the job its bankers had started is one of the biggest strategic errors ever made.

    Putin knew from the day he took over that he must not wake the giant so Russia rolled with the punches, put markers down, allowed itself to be described as weak/evil etc. Very slowly pulling the economy out of the hands of the banksters and very quietly improving the military. Not reacting in 2014, because Russia wasn't ready economically or militarily, turned out to be a masterstroke as the US read it as weakness so was totally unprepared for the move into Syria. Even that didn't wake the arrogant US giving Russia another seven years to get ready to what it knew it would have to do one day.

    That brings us to the SMO, the death by a thousand cuts of NATO, where nothing has been done to 'scare' NATO into doing something stupid like a nuke. Just a steady drip, drip, drip of boring non PR friendly actions, all the while building up strength to the degree now where Russia is unstoppable. There will be an unconditional surrender and NATO will not like the terms, based in part on the December 2021 documents but by that time it will be facing a 1.5M strong, fully trained and battle hardened Russian military and a probable financial collapse.

    Garry won't like this but I can see a Gerasimov Plan, similar to the Marshall Plan of 1948, where Russia financially rescues Europe at 1c on the $, creating a captive market for the BRICS+'s products just as the US did. At that point Putin moves onto a pedestal of his own, with no other equivalent in history.

    I might get carried away but it could happen Laughing

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    Post  Backman Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:00 am

    JohninMK wrote:Note that today is Zelinsky birthday and the mobilisation bill was to be passed and the return of 140 prisoners to take place today. All good PR or events that someone didn't want.

    I seen that on one of the Telegrams too. All 148 POWs (2 planes) were going to be released to Ukraine on Zelenskys birthday. For a big PR song and dance. Sure, someone didn't want the PR event to happen. But what is that one PR event really worth ? It wouldn't be a game changer in the slightest. It would not move the needle one way or the other. The 148 troops would be worth more to send back to the front. So this can't really be the reason.

    There is no other answer but that the Anglo war machine just does these things in some sickening desire for maximum pain for everyone involved. Ukraine lost. Russia lost. It is just a big ugly sickening mess. That accomplishes nothing but pain and confusion. Most people on both sides can't see the US's invisible hand in these attacks. It seems like people on both sides don't even really know who to blame. An atrocity that no side can really profit from propaganda wise. This is what the Anglo scum does. It is truly the devils work.

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    Post  Backman Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:13 am

    The US is using female suicide bombers in Ukraine


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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:25 am

    For the same expenditure of force ( the total integrated force over time )  we would expect the same advance or retreat ( the total integrated area of operations over time ) and the same rate of attrition ( the total integrated losses over time ) . The only difference being perhaps the changing rate , one of  increasing or decreasing amplitude or undamped system , where energy supplied equals energy lost ( more like what I am suggesting ) . Interesting problem !

    I disagree. If Kiev was able to get all ifs forces together and start mounting their attack on the Donbas and Lugansk regions there is no way Russia would be able to mobilise and attack and wipe out their air power and navy by surprise like that... the orcs would have the initiative and the numbers and the momentum and Russia would have taken heavy losses stopping them. More importantly there would be no prong of attack towards Kiev to keep Kievs forces spread out, they could have concentrated all their attacking power on the Donbass and probable would have made some ground, while the light small force of Russian unit would not have been enough to stop that steam roller and all those Russan forces would have had to go to the Donbass where they would have been vulnerable to artillery fire just like any other soldier and taken casualties like any other soldier.

    They would have kept taking losses as they stripped the enemy of air power and navy and armour, but their airstrikes would not have been a surprise because Kievs forces would already be fighting so Russian attacks would be counter attacks, unlike what they were, which was surprise strikes from an enemy force they didn't expect to be fighting... the real Russians.

    They called the Ukrainians wanting to speak Russian Russians, and they claimed they were fighting Russians all along but never expected to be facing them in actual combat till they got to Crimea. It was probably a bit like how colonial European soldiers felt about WWI... they had guns and artillery and even machine guns and horses and an organised and trained army against natives who had spears and shields and bare feet. Then WWI started an a couple of million heavily armed Germans came in to view... a terrible shock I am sure. Especially as they had the rifles and machine guns and artillery the the other colonial powers had and it created a real stalemate.

    The current stalemate is not a stalemate, the Russians have the resources and men and ammo and equipment in place to attack any time they please, they are waiting for the best time to get the most effect and most damage and kills and perhaps now territory for the least losses to try to get the enemy to collapse.

    #Ukraine easily loses 500 soldiers on a given day. 65 #POWs R nothing for #Zelensky if they could be sacrificed in a way that hurts reputation of #Zaluzjniy or anyone else he needs to remove so be it. #Ukranians loyal to regime will be unmoved too. Hate for #Russia is too strong

    They have likely lost half a million soldiers and will throw half a million more if they thought it would keep the money coming... they expect to be rescued to the west when this is over because they are defending the west from Russia... you know... like the Afghans weren't (rescued).

    And now Ukraine attacked and destroyed a Rosneft oil refinery near Krasnodar. It was the biggest oil refinery in Russia.

    One of many... why are you surprised?

    They can't protect just everything...

    They were quick to blame the Patriot for this ugly crime, before US blames SAMP/T. The blame will finally go the Germans I guess

    That is about the size of it... they could argue that the SAMP/T couldn't have done it because all the French Army officers that operate it were killed earlier in that Russian missile strike...

    The US is leaving Iraq and Syria under mounting pressure

    They were leaving Syria under Trump and they tricked him there too... they are entering talks to leave Iraq, but lets be honest, they will set up cooperation so they will need bases to rotate soldiers in and out of the region which means they will be permanently based there anyway... and that Syrian oil is too juicy to leave alone.

    But you are right... the Ukraine is a sick man and Germany is not much better.

    So someone wanted to sabotage any form of a peacemaking process similar to the negotiations in Istanbul

    As I have said many times, the elections will bring war, and a more aggressive Russia

    I think it is more likely these prisoners going back to the Ukraine will form a core of people who think surrender is their best option to stop the mindless bloodshed and those that shot it down obviously want the money to continue to flow and they could care less about blood flow.

    IMO Putin will untie the hands of the SVR, and take advantage of what is occurring in Texas

    And he will also untie the hands of the VKS, and start downing NATO ISR planes

    Such actions would backfire... when your enemy is collapsing because of their own stupid choices and short sighted decisions... don't correct them, don't distract them...

    Has Russia provided any concrete proof that the plane was carrying ukrainian pows?

    No they haven't, but Kiev came out with all sorts of BS and once it was revealed it carried POWs they didn't deny it.

    The comments about them flying S-300 missiles to shoot at Ukrainian cities was hilarious... they have plenty of custom designed weapons that can destroy Ukrainian targets... save the SAMs for the air targets. They have plenty of everything and the luxury of using the right tool for the job.


    Quite amazing that the most famous Vasilly Zaytsev is so low down the list. I guess he was early and then withdrawn and used for propagada purposes.

    Politics is a factor. His performance in Stalingrad was probably very useful and was very good for morale which makes it a double edged sword if he gets killed in combat, so withdraw him and have him train a new generation of snipers to up their performance and spread the love so to speak.

    Apparently if you wander into a PFM-1 minefield, with lesochek or the plastic mine which looks like a toy

    None of them look like toys... that is US propaganda from the Afghan conflict in the 1980s... the ebil commies were killing innocent afghan children with mines that look like childrens toys... when they finally provided a photo of them they screwed up... it was a pen and it had made in Japan printed on it in English and was a CIA booby trap for Soviet soldiers.


    We would have never come to this had Russia had a capable leadership in 1991-2022.

    Of course, you blame Putin because the Ukraine are a bunch of weak pussies lead by corrupt censored  and given a full colonoscopy by the west... a repeat of what they did to Russia during the 1990s.

    It is OK for you to be fooled by western propaganda, I do understand... you probably have snipers across the street in a van reading your every word to make sure you post what you post and try to blame everything on Putin and Russia. The German leader also blames Russia for the German economy at the moment because Putin is all powerful and controls everything and there was nothing he could do except what he did.

    Pathetic.

    Conversely Russia is in the best possible position it could be... I remember in the late 1990s talking on the internet with American teenagers who thought by now HATO would be flying F-35s and F-22s and that Russia would be begging HATO countries for the no longer wanted F-16s because Sukhoi and MiG and their entire air industry would have collapsed because its eastern european market was gone and serviced by America.

    I don't celebrate the lost men or the wasted money, but Russia has achieved almost complete separation from the west and is actually much stronger for it.

    If Putin had acted differently... had been either harder or softer... the west would still be getting cheap power from them because they either would have folded or they would be North Korea now... isolated and unable to use its resources to grow and develop without outside technology and help.

    The west has really screwed itself in a way Russia and China were not only never capable of, but also never interested in... they would have been happy to cooperate and the west just kept trying to bully them for a better deal... a master servant deal... that the EU bends over to the US for.

    The European economy is in tatters and still you say thank you America, you are the best, can we have some more?


    Garry won't like this but I can see a Gerasimov Plan, similar to the Marshall Plan of 1948, where Russia financially rescues Europe at 1c on the $, creating a captive market for the BRICS+'s products just as the US did. At that point Putin moves onto a pedestal of his own, with no other equivalent in history.

    It is not in Russias interests for the entire west to collapse and despite me and others talking about US debt and their arrogance and not even lifting a finger to deal with the problem other than increasing the amount they allow themselves to print of new money, Russia would not benefit from a total western economic collapse... that will effect global trade and global relations in a bad way.

    I think it was Swgman_BK who mentioned how feral western civilians get when you talk about restricting their legal legitimate access to oil and how they would just steal it like pirates at sea, ignoring the consequences.... the reality is that while we talk about how evil western governments are they are merely a reflection of their populations because they wont care about Palestinians being murdered or Russians getting killed in terrorist attacks... but you make their grocery or power or wifi bills too high and they will rise up and vote for someone else...

    I would guess they would not make terms with Russia but they might make terms with a combination of Saudi Arabia and China perhaps... but even then they are so proud.

    I remember watching an entertaining episode of Long Way Down with Ewan McGregor and Charlie Borman riding motor bikes down from the top of the UK down to near the bottom of Africa and they kept going on about the roads and mentioned roads the Chinese made in a rather negative way, but when they actually rode on them they were impressed and realised the Chinese were actually doing some good there... they didn't mention the damage that Europe has done to that continent these last few centuries but taking shots at Gaddaffi were not ignored. The American in the group couldn't get a passport in time. Well worth watching.

    Would the gardeners accept money from the Jungle Bunnies?

    They would view it as a means of control... because they use it widely as a means of control... which is ironic because they blame Russia and China of doing the same but the evidence clearly shows they do not.

    I seen that on one of the Telegrams too. All 148 POWs (2 planes) were going to be released to Ukraine on Zelenskys birthday. For a big PR song and dance. Sure, someone didn't want the PR event to happen. But what is that one PR event really worth ? It wouldn't be a game changer in the slightest. It would not move the needle one way or the other. The 148 troops would be worth more to send back to the front. So this can't really be the reason.

    At a time of the war when Ukrainian losses are an issue I would think Zelensky needed a win and getting 150 odd soldiers back alive would be something to be positive about... and clearly someone else wanted to deny him that...

    Ukraine lost. Russia lost. It is just a big ugly sickening mess. That accomplishes nothing but pain and confusion. Most people on both sides can't see the US's invisible hand in these attacks. It seems like people on both sides don't even really know who to blame. An atrocity that no side can really profit from propaganda wise. This is what the Anglo scum does. It is truly the devils work.

    I agree Ukraine has lots a lot... men, territory... a working society actually, and Russia has certainly paid a serious price, but this heat has forged some incredibly strong metal at a time when the west is holding plastic swords and cardboard armour that cost more than the real thing.

    This whole affair has made Russia strong and also independent and now they can see their future rather more clearly to the East and the South, with little to nothing of interest to the west except some threats they are in the process of dealing with... and they wont be tricked into freezing the conflict for it to be restarted again in 10 years with a more capable opponent.

    I would say the biggest loser in all this is the west... it has been broken... everyone sees the king is naked and they have tentacles everywhere but have to rely on massive over reaction or it will be vulnerable to massive attacks in thousands of locations from different enemies it has created over the years.

    Previously most countries wouldn't try but now there is the potential for assistance from Russia and China and Iran and quite a few other countries.

    MANPADS and ATGMs and other modern mobile capable systems can do very serious damage to any world power spread out like that.

    With just the experience they have gained and the production potential of China and Iran and North Korea to support them they could flood any poor country with enough drones and effective anti armour and anti aircraft weapons to make a western attack a bloodbath.

    But they now also have the command and control and communications networks to make these poor countries into effective fighting forces... given sufficient training the rest of the world has rather more bodies to throw at the west than the west could ever muster and convince to go to war for the super rich in the west to get slightly richer.

    Note will strip away some posts about the US situation to the relevant thread:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t9057-usa-internal-conflict?nid=18132#450844

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 am

    Backman wrote:....
    I seen that on one of the Telegrams too. All 148 POWs (2 planes) were going to be released to Ukraine on Zelenskys birthday. For a big PR song and dance. Sure, someone didn't want the PR event to happen. But what is that one PR event really worth ? It wouldn't be a game changer in the slightest. It would not move the needle one way or the other. The 148 troops would be worth more to send back to the front. So this can't really be the reason...

    148 POWs is nothing, they lose more than that per weekend

    Taking out enemy cargo plane and crew however, is definitely something

    All the reason you need



    Backman wrote:... Ukraine lost. Russia lost. .

    What did Russia lose exactly?

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:33 am

    French thinker prophesies the end of Western hegemony, by Valeria Verbinina for VZGLYAD. 01.26.2024.

    With its actions in Ukraine, Russia is defending its sovereignty, while the “degree of madness” is growing in the West. Western countries are oligarchies, but Russia is a democracy. These assessments, seditious by Western standards, were expressed by one of the leading French intellectuals. Particularly interesting are his observations of how much more stable society in Russia is in America.

    A serious scandal is breaking out in France. The famous demographer and essayist Emmanuel Todd published the book “The Defeat of the West,” which became a sensation, in which he outlined his point of view on the historical and geopolitical processes currently taking place. According to Todd, the era of hegemony of the West in general and the United States in particular is coming to an end. Moreover, he directly stated in an interview with the BFMtv channel that “the disappearance of the United States is the best thing that can happen to Europe.”

    It should be noted that one of Emmanuel Todd’s previous works is called “The End of the USSR,” and this book was published in 1976 and thus anticipated the collapse of the Soviet Union by as much as 15 years. It is not surprising that Todd's current theses have attracted more attention than any other scientist's presentation.

    Todd's skepticism towards the West and disappointment with its actions in Ukraine did not appear yesterday. In May 2023, he writes : “The degree of madness is growing in the West. America and Britain are demanding that a bloodless Ukraine go on a counter-offensive, while the latter does not have enough weapons to defeat Russia. Thousands of people will die for nothing...” Let us remember that this was written when the widely publicized counteroffensive had not even begun.

    In October 2022, Todd writes : “They (the Russians) will not yield. We won't give in. China will support Russia because Xi Jinping knows that in the event of a Russian defeat, he is next in line. Yes, this is the third world war. But there is a big difference: at the beginning of the First and Second World Wars, the world was in a phase of expansion, but now it is contracting.” Todd concludes that the real problems will begin "when the demographic and economic winter sets in for everyone."

    In an interview to coincide with the release of the book The Defeat of the West, Emmanuel Todd admits : “As a historian, I realized that what was happening (since February 2022) was an incredible opportunity to use my accumulated reflections and skills over half a century, and to explain hot on the heels of this turning point in world history... Most people believe that the West is made up of countries that follow the US and are thus inherently liberal democracies. “I believe that now there is no real liberal democracy anywhere, but there are liberal oligarchies.”

    “The collapse of the USSR was perceived as a victory for capitalism, which spread to the east of Europe, where it would eventually inevitably clash with Russia. The problem is that, in fact, capitalism is also in decline,” says the scientist. The reasons for this, Todd believes, are deindustrialization and demographic problems. The most successful Western countries have so far managed to keep birth rates at acceptable levels, but as governments throughout the West move to minimize social benefits for new mothers, birth rates are bound to fall. Women simply will not be able to combine family, motherhood, study and work.

    According to Todd, it is the demographic crisis that will not least lead to the fact that the United States will have to curtail its activities wherever it still dictates its will. “The United States will have to leave Europe, Asia and all the regions where they are stirring up conflicts... It is vital for them to create discord in Eurasia... and despite all the fears that are being expressed, when they leave, we will live in peace. The best thing that can happen to Europe is the disappearance of the United States,” Todd noted.

    He has no illusions at all about the powerful hegemon:

    “The greatest threat to all is a strong power that has lost faith and is infected with nihilism, does not know where it is going, is in decline and provokes conflicts around the world.”

    Assessing Todd's work, the Le Point columnist believes that "by painting a picture full of contrasts, the author intends to convince us that it was not Ukraine that was attacked by Russia, but Russia itself became a victim of the slow but steady expansion of the West." Moreover, according to Todd, Moscow's actions are nothing more than a defense of sovereignty (Todd even suggests the name "defensive sovereignty" for it) in the face of an advancing NATO.

    In the same interview with Le Point, Todd draws attention to the artificially inflated US GDP, to the American infant mortality rate, which shows the general level of society, to the statistics of suicides and crimes against individuals.

    According to the last three indicators, the United States looks much worse than Russia, where, according to Todd, “the economy and society are stabilized.” It is the United States, as Todd notes, that is most interested in pitting Russia and Europe, primarily Germany, against each other, because a union between Russia and Germany would mean the end of American influence in this part of the world.

    But Todd is still optimistic: “It will all end with Russia and Germany coming to an agreement. Peace will reign again."

    Todd's discussions about the inevitable loss of influence of the world hegemon and the general weakening of the role of the West indicate that humanity is on the threshold of a multipolar world. Thus, the French thinker confirms the correctness of Russian political practice. This is exactly what Russian President Vladimir Putin says : “the previous model of globalization is being replaced by a multipolar model."

    .Despite the fact that today in the West and certainly in France, discussions about multipolarity are supported only in one spirit - negative. In the newspaper Le Monde, multipolarity (“multipolar disease”) is obsessively compared to bipolar disease, so that readers do not dare to think in this direction. And even political scientist Pascal Boniface, who back in 2010 argued that the world was on the threshold of multipolarity, now prefers not to remind about it again.

    Others, like political scientist Henri Guenault, acknowledge that the world is becoming multipolar, but frankly admit that it frightens them. “The old bipolar world was a battleground between two ideologies invented by the West - liberalism and communism. It has given way to a multipolar world, which marks the end of an era of Western influence on the world that lasted five centuries... A multipolar world is unstable and insecure, but it has arrived,” writes Genault.

    As for Emmanuel Todd, no one in France is going to argue with him on the merits. Voices have already been heard accusing him of working for Russian propaganda.

    For example, French American specialist Dominique Simonnet gave an entire interview in which he threw mud at Todd. Simonnet said that the scientist “supports the ideas of the Kremlin” and “defends Putin.” The professional Americanist was clearly hurt by Todd’s words that “the disappearance of America is the best thing that could happen to Europe,” because then there would be no need for Simon and his services.

    It is significant that instead of polemics, an attempt is being made to denigrate the opponent. Apparently, there is simply nothing to object to. The world is changing before our eyes, and Western ideologists are tremblingly afraid of change, because it will mean the end of the myths that they have been spreading for a long time.

    https://vz.ru/world/2024/1/25/1248657.html

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:46 am

    NATO's expected strategy to defeat Russia

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    Post  nomadski Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:50 pm

    GarryB wrote :


    "....the Russians have the resources and men and ammo and equipment in place to attack any time they please....."

    I hope I have not tired you out . This is not my aim . I think , somehow you think I am critical of the SMO or the " stalemate ! " I said something  in this regard in the past , when I referred to static frontlines .  I agree with you , when you say that the rate of attrition can vary , depending on tactics . But what I am saying is that , this attrition rate averages out over time . This is especially true , when wars last a longer time and when the opposing sides are at least for a time , performing in a predictable manner  . In these cases then when the Battle turns into a predictable pattern and constant rate of attrition , then it is the total force expended over time by both sides that decided the outcome . Even if the battles consist of major advances or retreats or a constant back and forth , or skirmishes lasting many years . Therefore I am agreeing with you , that this force can be expended at ANY TIME , during a variable timescale in various ways or tactics ! The outcome will be similar or the same . It is a steady state situation .
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:38 pm

    Sujoy wrote:NATO's expected strategy to defeat Russia


    What NATO planners don't understand, is Putins psychology

    They don't understand, he views Ukrainians as Russians

    Many Russians are shocked, because Ukrainians fight like mortal enemies

    But not for Putin, Ukraine is fundamental to restoring TFR(total fertility rate) and population replacement of the entire Russian world, not just Russia

    So Putin fights in a way which requires a sacrifice, but on the whole preserves most of Ukraine as a viable appendix of Russia

    On the other hand, Putin does not view Finland, Poland, Baltics , Romania as Russian at all

    Neutron weapons are much more economical and beneficial to TFR rates in a war with non-russian states

    Also Noone will nuke Russia, at best B61 could be dropped on the NATO states own territory, but not on Russia

    Because a Yasen will just reply onto the home city of the country with authorized the strike

    And Noone will trade a home city for an Eastern European one

    From the outside, it seems Putin would tolerate casualties in a war with NATO, because they observe Ukraine

    But outsiders do not recognize how the war is fought or what the motivations are for the war

    They think this war is the model for other wars

    No it is not, the special military operation Is tailored to reduce bloodshed in the conditions of high intensity conflict between fraternal states , where the dominant one (Russia) understands it will be responsible for the smaller one (Ukraine)

    It is extremely specific, and unique , and would never be fought that way if it was an Eastern European country

    Putin does not expect to occupy or take responsibility for Finnish people, therefore neutron bombs are a better tool to preserve the lives of Russians , and to eliminate the need to occupy hostile populations

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:52 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote: Many Russians are shocked, because Ukrainians fight like mortal enemies

    But not for Putin, Ukraine is fundamental to restoring TFR(total fertility rate) and population replacement of the entire Russian world, not just Russia

    So Putin fights in a way which requires a sacrifice, but on the whole preserves most of Ukraine as a viable appendix of Russia
    But the West, particularly the US is already sacrificing thousands of Ukrainians. And regardless of how Putin intends to keep casualties low the West will keep on pouring millions of Ukrainians into the battlefield.

    Recall what the defense minister of Netherlands said last year that Ukraine is a “Very cheap way to make sure Russia is not a threat”

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    Post  Hole Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:26 pm

    NATO's expected strategy to defeat Russia
    Typical succession of western buzz words from people without any knowledge of real warfare.

    millions of Ukrainians
    They can´t find enough to replace the losses of the last few months.

    Very cheap way to make sure Russia is not a threat
    Worked really well.
    NOT.

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    Post  franco Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:57 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from January 20 to January 26, 2024)

    In the period from January 20 to January 26 of this year, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 13 group strikes with high-precision long-range weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles against objects of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine that produced unmanned boats, ammunition, missiles and their components. In addition, arsenals, military airfield infrastructure, fuel bases and temporary locations of foreign mercenaries were affected.

    The aim of the strikes has been achieved. All designated facilities were hit.

    During the week, in the Kupyansk direction, units of the Western Group of Troops liberated the settlement of Krakhmalnoye in the Kharkiv region and improved the situation along the front edge in some areas.

    43 enemy attacks were repelled in cooperation with aviation and artillery. Fire damage was inflicted on clusters of manpower and equipment of the 68th Jaeger, 25th, 30th, 32nd, 43rd, 57th, 60th, 66th mechanized, as well as the 25th Airborne brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 1st Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in in the districts of the settlements of Makeyevka of the Luhansk People's Republic, Berestove, Sinkovka of the Kharkiv region and Terny of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    The enemy lost over 740 soldiers, seven tanks, seven armored combat vehicles, 18 vehicles and 14 field artillery pieces

    In the Krasnolimansk direction, as a result of the active actions of the units of the Center group of forces, more advantageous lines and positions are occupied. 17 enemy attacks were repelled.

    Air strikes, artillery fire and heavy flamethrower systems defeated the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of settlements, as well as the Serebryansk forestry.

    The enemy's losses amounted to over 1,570 soldiers killed and wounded, seven tanks, 25 armored combat vehicles, 52 vehicles and nine field artillery guns.

    In the Donetsk direction, the skilful actions of the units of the "Southern" grouping of troops improved the position along the front edge and repelled 12 enemy attacks.

    The manpower and equipment of the 22nd, 24th, 28th, 42nd, 58th, 92nd, 93rd mechanized, 81st airmobile, as well as the 5th assault brigades were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Andreevka, Belogorovka, Grigorovka, Kleshcheyevka, Kurdyumovka, Mayorsk and Chas Yar of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    The enemy lost more than 1960 soldiers killed and wounded, 19 tanks, of which one was Leopard, 22 armored combat vehicles, 56 vehicles, four multiple rocket launchers, including MLRS, HIMARS and two Grad, as well as 27 field artillery guns.

    In the South Donetsk direction, coordinated actions of units of the Vostok group of forces defeated units of the 31st, 72nd mechanized, 79th airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the 105th and 127th air defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Rovnopol, Paraskovievka, Novomikhailovka, Staromayorskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic and The shelter of the Zaporozhye region.

    The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to up to 745 military personnel, a tank, two armored combat vehicles, 23 vehicles and 14 field artillery guns.

    In the Zaporozhye area, the active defense of Russian troops units and systematic fire action defeated the formations of the 33rd, 65th, 117th, 118th mechanized and 128th mountain assault brigades, as well as the 112th air defense brigade in the areas of the settlements of Workino, Verbovoye, Nesteryanka and Pyatikhatki of the Zaporozhye region.

    The enemy lost more than 450 soldiers, three tanks, four armored combat vehicles, 17 vehicles and 11 field artillery pieces.

    In the Kherson direction, the preemptive actions of Russian troops in cooperation with aviation and artillery inflicted fire damage on units of the 35th, 36th, 38th Marine brigades, as well as the 121st, 123rd, 126th air defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Zolotaya Balka, Mikhaylovka, Tyaginka, Zmievka and Stanislav of the Kherson region.

    The enemy's losses amounted to over 335 military personnel, 23 vehicles, two MLRS Grad combat vehicles and eight field artillery guns.

    During the week, 35 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered, 16 of them in the Krasnolimansk direction.

    Over the past week, four anti-aircraft missile launchers have been hit by tactical aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, missile forces and artillery of military groups, including two Patriot missile systems manufactured in the United States, SAMP-T manufactured in France, IRIS-T manufactured in Germany and three radar stations for them, as well as the radar of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system and six field ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    During the week, aviation and air defense equipment shot down a Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, destroyed six Storm Shadow cruise missiles, four Tochka-U tactical missiles, 28 HIMARS and Vampire multiple launch rocket systems, as well as 361 unmanned aerial vehicles.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 568 aircraft, 265 helicopters, 11255 unmanned aerial vehicles, 455 anti-aircraft missile systems, 14,800 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,210 multiple rocket launchers, 7871 field artillery and mortars, as well as 17,891 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12497684@egNews

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:05 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote: Many Russians are shocked, because Ukrainians fight like mortal enemies

    But not for Putin, Ukraine is fundamental to restoring TFR(total fertility rate) and population replacement of the entire Russian world, not just Russia

    So Putin fights in a way which requires a sacrifice, but on the whole preserves most of Ukraine as a viable appendix of Russia
    But the West, particularly the US is already sacrificing thousands of Ukrainians.  And regardless of how Putin intends to keep casualties low the West will keep on pouring millions of Ukrainians into the battlefield.

    Recall what the defense minister of Netherlands said last year that Ukraine is a “Very cheap way to make sure Russia is not a threat”


    Eastern Slavs are mentally weak. They have allowed Anglos to drive themselves into a situation where they are killing each other in hundreds of thousands while Anglos are cheering in the sidelines.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:17 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:

    Eastern Slavs are mentally weak. They have allowed Anglos to drive themselves into a situation where they are killing each other in hundreds of thousands while Anglos are cheering in the sidelines.

    Unfortunately, The Anglo Saxon population does not meet replacement TFR rates

    America is overwhelmed with immigrants , and they are splitting into internal conflict

    The Russian world does not have these issues, TFR rates of 1.5 can be sustained and in 2027, the pro natal policies of Putin will mean TFR can reach 1.7, by the next decade TFR will be at 2.0

    You know what that means? Russia will experience population growth by 2040

    This small fraternal war managed some successes, but most of them overshadowed by the collapse of the post liberal economy, the replacement of Anglo Saxons with migrants, internal conflict, and balkanization of USA and Europe

    Russia on the other hand is expanding and actually has managed to re-establish a Slavic community with Slovakia, Hungary, Belarus, soon Ukraine, and possible Poland if things there change

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