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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:19 pm

    in short BBC/CNN:

    Iran fired 1500 missiles and 1499 were downed
    one missile destroyed an animal shelter killing all puppies
    No military objects were even scratched.



    BTW don't you think that the Iranians learned from Russian experiences and tactics in Ukraine?

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:41 pm

    It was a good move by Iran.

    -Respond in a visible way to the attack on the embassy in Syria.

    -It has a psychological impact, both in fearing the Israeli population and also encouraging the Palestinians.

    -This is not going to produce any war since there are no common borders, but it will put pressure on the Israelis.

    -Russia benefits: It leaves Biden as a helpless idiot, benefiting Trump. Takes attention away from Ukraine. If there is money, it will go to Israel.

    -Iran has its back covered with Russia and China. So Israel has no chance of taking down any Iranian government. They can't take 3 streets of Gaza, they will never enter the capital of Theeran

    Obviously these things have the approval of Russia. You have to be a fool to believe that Russia and Israel have good relations. Russians don't give a shit about Jews, in fact more than one sees them as their enemies. And it is obvious that the ukro war has brought the Russians and Iranians closer together. Just as NATO got into Russia's borders, the Russians will seek to generate conflicts in strategic areas such as Israel, seeking to destabilize those places. Basic geopolitics manual.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:28 am

    Israel is gonna respond.

    And it's gonna be bad because US will help. So will Jordan as they are useful idiots.

    Iran will be dragged now into a major war.

    I hope not, but it will.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:32 am

    sepheronx wrote:Israel is gonna respond.

    And it's gonna be bad because US will help. So will Jordan as they are useful idiots.

    Iran will be dragged now into a major war.

    I hope not, but it will.

    I agree, the whole goal was to drag the USA into the war with Iran. This was a restrained response by Iran, it say we can attack and hit you. If Israel launches in volume Iran will launch before the Israeli strike arrives.
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:51 am

    sepheronx wrote:Israel is gonna respond.

    And it's gonna be bad because US will help. So will Jordan as they are useful idiots.

    Iran will be dragged now into a major war.

    I hope not, but it will.

    What is Israel going to respond with? It is going to cause a much greater escalationand the loser is Israel since it is not militarily capable of defeating Iran. I already told you, they can't take on Gaza, much less can you against a regional power with Chinese and Russian support. Arabs are hostile to Israel, regardless of what the Jordanian elite says. They are not going to get their people to fight for IsraelAt this moment. Is absurd.
    Trump supporters are in neutrality mode. Nobody trusts Israel

    Precisely, let the United States get involved, continue putting in money and destroying its economy. That is convenient.

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    Post  PhSt Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:09 am

    How will Iran respond if Israel bombs its nuclear facilities like in Natanz
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:33 am

    ELI5: How good is Iranian air defence?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:08 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:After watching various pieces of footage where missiles have impacted I noticed some had a large explosion with the shy lighting up, and other impacted with zero lighting up and zero explosions, could these be duds?

    More like decoys. I'd doubt the Israeli BMD can tell the difference with sufficient accuracy to allow them to de-prioritise and not allocate interceptors.

    The more interceptors the Zio trash waste on decoys the more their defenses will weaken for the next round of exchange (which is surely coming given the propensity of the Zio to lose their minds and go bat-shit crazy when a "lesser people" dare to fight back).

    We might be looking at a 21st century verison of the "War of the Cities" from the Iran/Iraq war of the 80s (I remember it well) except this time the Iranians have the rockets/missiles and their opponent will relys on the use of strike aircraft.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:25 am

    US ,British ,Jordan and probably France aircrafts were launched to intercept Iranian drones , UK pilots took off from Cyprus .

    US will not participate in any operation against Iran because the output will cause problems which they can't handle with right now .

    Americans will tell israelis that this attack could be considered a not very harmful one and could be neglected .

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:47 am

    PhSt wrote:How will Iran respond if Israel bombs its nuclear facilities like in Natanz

    Not easy , in Natanz Iran feature halls more deeply buried than the Frodo uranium enrichment site , they moved most of sensitive halls into the heart of the mountain.

    Anyway eye with eye , it's easier to target Dimona reactor and energy facilities in israel and close Haifa port .

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:55 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    BTW don't you think that the  Iranians learned from Russian experiences and tactics in Ukraine?

    Funny that you have asked ...
    Just for the records.
    If the numbers given by Israelis are true, we are talking about an attack outscaling the biggest Russian strikes on 404.
    By a factor of 3-4.
    Here comes the question.
    Does Iran ownes a 3-4x the striking potential of the Russian Federation?
    Clearly not.
    So what would be conclusion?
    Well ... mine is that Russkie are carrying a long term maneuver, not a war.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:56 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    PhSt wrote:How will Iran respond if Israel bombs its nuclear facilities like in Natanz

    Not easy , in Natanz Iran feature halls more deeply buried than the Frodo uranium enrichment site , they moved most of sensitive halls into the heart of the mountain.

    Anyway eye with eye , it's easier to target Dimona reactor and energy facilities in israel and close Haifa port .

    Agreed, the Zio filth will be very aware that any attacks/damage on Irans nuclear facilities will likely result in a saturation attack of the Dimona reactor and its associated out-buildings and infrastructure.

    The zio creatures are bat-shit crazy enough to try, but they are still aware of the consequences. I suspect that they will not wish to risk their sole nuke bomb factory (and weapon storage facility?)

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    Post  Arrow Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:20 am

    Israel claims to have intercepted most of the weapons launched by Iran. If this is true, then the Israeli and Western AD is a power. There is no point even comparing the Ukrainian one to it.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:24 am

    Arrow wrote:Israel claims to have intercepted most of the weapons launched by Iran.  If this is true, then the Israeli and Western AD is a power.  There is no point even comparing the Ukrainian one to it.
    Israel is tiny. There is much more compact area to defend.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:29 am

    Arrow wrote:Israel claims to have intercepted most of the weapons launched by Iran.  If this is true, then the Israeli and Western AD is a power.  There is no point even comparing the Ukrainian one to it.

    Get serious, the Zio-filth are simply lying, just like they always do, about everything.


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    Post  Arrow Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:29 am

    They intercepted over 100 ballistic and cruise missiles, which is amazing Shocked Shocked Shocked

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:30 am

    Arrow wrote:They intercepted over 100 ballistic and cruise missiles, which is amazing Shocked Shocked Shocked

    Bullshit. Total bullshit.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:32 am

    Arrow wrote:They intercepted over 100 ballistic and cruise missiles, which is amazing Shocked Shocked Shocked

    They claim.

    And what good is that when they lied continously in the conflict in Gaza as example?

    They can claim they shot down every single missile.

    Will you believe it?

    Ukraine also claims same thing. Yet there's countless videos of shit blowing up in Ukraine. And Russian jets going around without being shot down.

    The thing is, people lie. Yeah, I know, hard to believe it.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:35 am

    Yes it's their claims ,anyway it's a predicted attack , spotted by US bases very early , engaged by multiple countries and different systems from many directions .

    but still the missiles reaches some targets , the cost of new engagement rules ,economic ,cost of interception and the reputation of israel as a safe place for jews is very much more than any material damage .

    Attacking inside israel is considered a very sensitive situation to the zionists as their strategy was always to eliminate the risk before launched towards them otherwise more people will reserve tickets back to Poland What a Face

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    Post  Arrow Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:41 am

    Yes Yes of course. There were constant stories about how the Western AD system sucks. And now intercepting a wave of 100 cruise and ballistic missiles, plus drones.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:52 am

    Arrow wrote:

    Yes Yes of course. There were constant stories about how the Western AD system sucks. And now I'm intercepting a wave of 100 cruise and ballistic missiles, plus drones.

    Still you are presenting the israeli story but anyway , in ideal situation many systems will have high interception rate .

    The attack on a small area which easy to be covered with layered AD systems + aircrafts and jamming capabilities from a superpower and it's easy to down a drone using even very old air to air missiles .


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    Post  crod Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:56 am

    Arrow wrote:Yes Yes of course. There were constant stories about how the Western AD system sucks. And now intercepting a wave of 100 cruise and ballistic missiles, plus drones.

    I agree. Time will tell, it’s daylight hours now so we should see pics, satellite images of hit sites. But it looks as if the western AD and aircraft intercepts did a real number on this attack.

    We’ll soon know but my money is on a very low Iranian success and a very high israeli/western one.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:56 am

    Iranian Chief of Staff: Our attack led to the destruction of two important Israeli military sites .

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    Post  crod Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:57 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Arrow wrote:

    Yes Yes of course. There were constant stories about how the Western AD system sucks. And now I'm intercepting a wave of 100 cruise and ballistic missiles, plus drones.

    Still you are presenting the israeli story but anyway , in ideal situation many systems will have high interception rate .

    The attack on a small area which easy to be covered with layered AD systems + aircrafts and jamming capabilities from a superpower and it's easy to down a drone using even very old air to air missiles .



    Then why bother?

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    Post  crod Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:58 am

    ahmedfire wrote:Iranian Chief of Staff: Our attack led to the destruction of two important Israeli military sites .


    As they say, pics or it didn’t happen.

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