2024 Iran–Israel conflict

crod wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:Iranian Chief of Staff: Our attack led to the destruction of two important Israeli military sites .

As they say, pics or it didn’t happen.

Yeah because israel has published the interception video of each single missile and drone ?

By the way the israelis themselves said their airbase was hit .

PhSt wrote:How will Iran respond if Israel bombs its nuclear facilities like in Natanz

Probably in a symmetric way. They can attack the Dimona nuclear power plant in Israel. Some time ago Iran even made a mock attack exercise against a target looking similar to the Dimona plant to send a signal to the Zionists.

Iranian media say no missile interceptions took place . What we see in one clip merely shows a MIRV warhead separating . I think it possible that the body of missile after warhead separation , may have been blown up to create diversions on Radar . Iran media also say reports by Zionists about 15 injured ! But I find this unlikely , since if they are in hospital , and were in the blast radius , then equal chance of death . Therefore we are talking about deaths in the 10 - 20 range . This plus false claims by Zionists about 100% interception , tells me they do not want a counter strike ! Why should they ? The main aim may have been political diversion , forcing Israelis to give up liberties and new judicial laws , under the force of external threat of war ! I know that unpopular Hijab law was forced through in Iran by the conservatives too ! Still I put the chance of Limited counter strike at 50% , and full counter strike at 50% !

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Yeah because israel has published the interception video of each single missile and drone ?

By the way the israelis themselves said their airbase was hit .[/quote]

sure i saw the clip too....from a distance just like you. but it is a big airbase so for me to consider it a success i would like to see destroyed airframes and architecture. otherwise the base is business as usual, no?

I looks like the Iranians are operating from the Russian not US playbook. Has anyone seen any claims of civilian deaths or injuries?

Israeli TV are saying that they have lots of video but are not allowed to show it. Much of what we have seen has likely come from Palestinians filming it.

I might be wrong but satellite photos of the damage will likely be censored as well.

Palestinian / axis drones can provide battle damage assessment !

Arrow wrote:They intercepted over 100 ballistic and cruise missiles, which is amazing

Quite amazing isn't it?

We have an excellent air defense system.

but we warn that the defense will not be 100%

"anywhere from 400 to 500 drones and missiles" 

Israel intercepted 99% of Iran's "response," Ynet said, citing unnamed Israeli officials.

The good old Banderite playbook.
First you inflate the number of incoming drones/missiles then you claim 99% or even 105% were shot down.

 bad because US will help. S

Iran stated before the attack that all US bases in the area are targeted by missiles/drones.
If Biden thinks he can drop a few bombs on Iran like the Us does it with countries like Somalia or Haiti,
he will have a rude awakening. Well, sort of, regarding his condition.

Well ... mine is that Russkie are carrying a long term maneuver, not a war.

Russia has enough launchers (ground, sea and air) to shot 1.000+ missiles onto someone.
At once, of course.

Get serious, the Zio-filth are simply lying, just like they always do, about everything.

What that attack showed is that they are nearly helpless against ballistic missiles.
After spending a Trillion on "ABM" systems.

They can claim they shot down every single missile.

They mostly shot down cheap drones, which were intended to distract the AD systems,
and some simple ballistic missiles fired by dudes in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. Which
was part of the attack plan, too.
Most of the cruise missiles were propably decoys as well. Think about all those old Kh-55
Russia used to fool AD systems.

If that is not a perfect asymmetric answer, then what is?

Iran and her buddies could do this the whole week. 
Lets see when Israel runs ouf of AD missiles.

SEVEN clear ballistic missiles hits.
Nevatim airbase was hit even harder, 15 missiles reported.

Those bases should be the best defended, keep in mind that Israel is dependent on air "power", but... 

The only weak spot of the attack, due to the distance between the two countries,
was the long warning time. Otherwise a lot of planes would have been destroyed.

Hole wrote:The only weak spot of the attack, due to the distance between the two countries,
was the long warning time. Otherwise a lot of planes would have been destroyed.

I thought the same . Next time no warning or slow drones . Missiles seem to get through ok . Just use more missiles , with some fired slightly ahead of others with jamming capability .

Eugenio Argentina wrote:In Argentina the media, mainly TV, gave Israel's version, saying that the anti-missile systems had worked perfectly, avoiding major damage.
Even those who call themselves left-wing have a very biased view in favor of Israel.

Just look at Argentine's president Milei. This clown looks to me like a complete Zionist stooge selling out his country. Some time ago Argentinian hotels boycotted Roger Waters for his BDS support of the Palestinians.
All these indications just show how little Argentine has done to get out of America's backyard. As long as it is exploited by "liberal" imperialists its economy will suffer even more. The left vs. right debates are just there to distract the people from this fact. In American puppet states like Germany this is quite similar.

These countries have effectively given Israel a blank cheque for every crime, which makes them responsible for the current escalation.

According to NYT, Israel will respond within 48 h.

ahmedfire wrote:launched towards them otherwise more people will reserve tickets back to Poland

Please dont!!!

crod wrote:
sure i saw the clip too....from a distance just like you. but it is a big airbase so for me to consider it a success i would like to see destroyed airframes and architecture. otherwise the base is business as usual, no?

Because the destruction of the IAF base was unlikely to be the Iranians' objective. Sending hives of slow drones gives plenty of time to prepare.  IMHO the point was to show Irahell is not invulnerable to Iranian missiles.  And the  point was proven.