2024 Iran–Israel conflict

Since Iran took several days , before it possibly responded , then I am not too concerned about any war . Since a few days , is all that was needed to screw the nuke warheads on the ICBM ( sorry satellite launchers ) . If true then there won't be a big war , by any side . But if the MIC does not make money , still the prepper industry makes money !

Now let me see , have I got .......

( 1 ) Emergency rations ........

( 2 ) Clean bottled water.........

( 3 ) Iodine tablets ..................

( 4 ) Fallout shelter...................

Interesting. Head of the US Central Command CENTCOM, General Michael Kurilla is in Israel to co-ordinate activities and Shoigu is in Iran, presumably to do the same.

DD Geopolitics
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JUST IN! Sergei Shoigu, the Secretary of Russia's National Security Council, arrived on a visit to Iran, where he will meet with the President, the Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council, and the Chief of the General Staff, reports the Security Council of Russia.


EDIT Kurilla name added

Kim Dotcom:

“Russia warned the US not to supply modern weapons to Ukraine, otherwise they would do the same to US enemies. War in the Middle East seems inevitable, and now Russia is supplying advanced weapons to Iran. US carrier groups and bases will be attacked. Escalation is guaranteed. Are you ready for World War III?

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Yes, Russia had warned the United States that by providing long-range technological weapons to Ukraine, they would respond with operations mirroring those of Ukraine, providing technology to countries involved in military crises with the United States and European countries, this was said clearly and now crying scandal is simply ridiculous.

Nothing for free. Oh to be a fly on a wall there

I doubt there would be any big destruction. Just like the last time they gave Israel lot of days to prepare and empty their bases.

All the diplomatic trips last days will prevent a war. Iran will save the face by sending hundreds of drones and detoriate israeli stocks of missiles but hardly unlikely they start a major war.

Also no one wants to start a war in Levanon so Hezbollah will certainly not participate.

If Iran wants to really strike back effectively they need to attack minutes after the israel agressions. Not days and not let them know they will strike.

The geography of this region , exerts it's own dynamic . It does not wait for our plans . Being in a geographic choke point , it unavoidably brings diverse tribes into contact and conflict . Therefore interminable conflict ensues . Since there can be no quick mixing of populations , then one tribe being stronger than another , ends up displacing them or driving them out . Genocide is not irrational .

It does work . It creates empty spaces for new growth and new species  . It is part of nature .






Can the Joos swim ?




Those that can't swim , can be eaten !

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Russia transfers Iskander missile systems and Murmansk-BN electronic warfare systems to Iran.

The EW systems make sense. But Iran does not need the Iskander when they have the Fateh-313 family of missiles.

GarryB wrote:Maybe they can put an extra solid rocket booster stage on it and get a 2,000km range missile out of it that manouvers to evade interception and has jammers and decoys to avoid getting stopped.

Launching standard missiles from Syria should give them the ability to reach targets in Israel from launch locations in coastal Syria.

Iran already has 2,000 km range missiles. The Sejil.

The danger point has passed . Ardours have cooled . There won't be any attack on Israel by Iran now . Not even a symbolic response . Best Iran can do is indirect help for now . The Shia axis , is doing enough . That is why Iran inviting OIC meeting , hoping for a unified " Islamic , " response . Both Shia and Sunni . But no chance for this .

Supposing

Could be tonight. But I agree with Nomadski. Striking back should happen 24-48h max after the attack. After that it's useless and just proves you are weaker than the ebemy because you need to calculate all the risks possible.

GarryB wrote:There is more to Iskander than range... the fact that the west has sent some of their best AD systems to Ukraine.... ground launched AMRAAM, Patriot, HAWK, IRIS-T, and plenty of other missile types no doubt and in 3 years of conflict not a single Iskander has been shot down...

The US equivalent to Iskander is ATACMS and they have been shot down in rather large numbers already...

The west is so desperate they pretend they get through but they are not accurate... Hahahaha.

Biden won't start any war with Iran. Neither Iranians wants it.

Striking israel is legally OK because israeli striked first.

Since is more than 1000km away range is important. Iskander would be useless.

More Tor and pantsir would be better to defend against israeli missiles.

Knowing the israeli past, they for sure are doing plans to use nuks just in case. Russia probably has some behind the doors agreements with Iran to give them 2 or 3 nuk warheads so that Israel pay its hot head decisions if they happen to use them. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised if some russian nuks are stocked there. Some Oniks with russian range could also be there.

Israel isn't arming Ukraine. Russia won't arm Hezbollah or Iran against Israel. As long as Israel respect that sort of agreement Russia will keep it like that.

Iskander in Iran could be used against US forces but not against Israel.

Russia will deliver weapon but they won't be used agaibst Israel. Against the US, yes if war starts.

All Roads lead to Rome . Can we change the course of events ? I tend to think that events follow their own course . Of course after 9/11 , America was not prepared and had to take time to prepare . But Iranians had experience , they said that if Israel attacked again , that response would be immediate and without warning ! And it was not !

To change the course of events in Palestine , a country like Iran , needs to have nuclear weapons and needs to attack with a large land Army to liberate these territories , and it needs to impose a new social order in the region . The last requirement is beyond Iran's reach , and beyond other people's reach . There can be no peaceful coexistence between very diverse people .

The best Iran can do is help frontline states against further expansion by Zionist entity . It can station it's own troops in the region alongside national governments to protect those territories . The fate of the holy lands , is a continuous war and population upheavals . Iran , directly , can mirror the actions by Zionists in it's own defence . But Iran's external covert forces are it's weak point , it's Army is it's strong point . It is the reverse for the Zionists . The last time Iran mounted covert external operations , an operative blew up their own leg .....

Now where is my second cup of morning coffee ........

A large land offensive isn't necessary. Hezbollah managed to make thousands of israeli flee the occupied regions in the north with its attacks.

On the long term israeli will understand they need to come up with a peace plan.

Till now they were confident on their Iron Dome. Rockets weren't a problem. Now not so much. They will quickly remove the far right for a more moderate government that will sign a peace agreement.

US showed it's incapable to solve the issue. Sooner or later israeli will come to this conclusion IMO. Specially that with Twitter and other social media their propaganda has no bright future. Everything is known hours after it happens.

Israel may be destroyed now or later . Better sooner , while there are still some Palestinians left  to claim the land . Later more difficult , they will be dispersed . Many not willing to return to Palestine , even if they could , joining the five million Palestinian refugees .  Better later , once no more Palestinians , then extermination more urgent and  can be total and complete . No good carrying out a limited strike . This may bring the yanks in , without destroying the enemy . The aim should be complete victory , needs nukes as deterrent . Needs invasion and liberation of land . No fooking about , leaving a wounded tiger ! Either that or a series of covert ops , and more of the same with the resistance axis  , culminating in their destruction at later date .