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    Post  Belisarius Wed May 01, 2024 6:54 pm

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 A huge fire at an enemy facility in Odessa

    According to one version, hangars at the Shkolny airfield are on fire.

    https://t.me/intelslava/58757?single

    Telegram channel “Win-Win” reports the consequences of the attacks inflicted on Odessa:

    An hour ago in Odessa, a warehouse with shells from the USA, which had just been delivered, was destroyed. Perhaps even within the framework of only the adopted aid package.

    155 mm shells arrived in the morning from Romania by sea. At the moment there is detonation and a fire is raging. The SBU has cordoned off the area where two missiles from comrade Iskander K. arrived, and is catching everyone who is trying to film the site of the destruction.

    https://t.me/VampireSix/2838

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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 01, 2024 7:22 pm

    Looks like a different view of this event





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    Post  crod Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Looks like a different view of this event


    'Tis but a shame John...a few short minutes prior of footage and you might have had your boom boom for the week! Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 01, 2024 7:40 pm

    So, NATO is whining that the Russians put all the captured gear on show. Have they forgotten?

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    Post  Backman Wed May 01, 2024 8:48 pm

    It looks like the CIA is lining up its next false flag. Some airliner will go down and it will be blamed on Russian GPS spoofing. An airliner full of innocent dupes from the Baltic or Scandinavia. 

    They are claiming that there is 2 jammers. One around St Pete and one in Kalinigrad. Which I find hard to believe 




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    Post  sepheronx Wed May 01, 2024 8:51 pm

    they are stopping flights because of GPS Jammers?

    They used to fly all the time before GPS was really much of a thing.

    Excuses for everything but yeah, people are stupid as shit and will be lead into some other kind of catastrophe and believing the blame.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed May 01, 2024 11:07 pm

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f89/19/02/24/05/dithuu10.jpg

    A letter was found in the remains of a deceased Maidan soldiers from 38th Brigade in Krynki, left bank of river Dnepr, Kherson.

    "They threw me to the death. The damn company commander, Dymchenko, threw me in that place. If someone manages to read this, that means I have already died, please tell my mom about my death."

    Below is the name and phone number of the soldier's mother.

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    Post  mnztr Thu May 02, 2024 1:06 am

    Backman wrote:It looks like the CIA is lining up its next false flag. Some airliner will go down and it will be blamed on Russian GPS spoofing. An airliner full of innocent dupes from the Baltic or Scandinavia. 

    They are claiming that there is 2 jammers. One around St Pete and one in Kalinigrad. Which I find hard to believe 



    Russia promised military techncial consequences to Finland and Sweden, so there you have it. Suck it up. NO GPS for you, EVER. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    Post  mnztr Thu May 02, 2024 1:12 am

    sepheronx wrote:they are stopping flights because of GPS Jammers?

    They used to fly all the time before GPS was really much of a thing.

    Excuses for everything but yeah, people are stupid as shit and will be lead into some other kind of catastrophe and believing the blame.

    ADS-B is GPS dependent AFIK. Without it seperation distances massively increase.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu May 02, 2024 2:30 am

    Why is tank vs tank combat so rare in this war?

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    Post  Backman Thu May 02, 2024 2:54 am

    sepheronx wrote:they are stopping flights because of GPS Jammers?

    They used to fly all the time before GPS was really much of a thing.

    Excuses for everything but yeah, people are stupid as shit and will be lead into some other kind of catastrophe and believing the blame.

    Finnair has ceased at least one flight

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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 02, 2024 3:56 am

    Holly molly, Odessa strike was really something...

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 02, 2024 6:25 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why is tank vs tank combat so rare in this war?

    Main reasons are fov drones are so common they are always looking and ranged anti weapos

    Basically you have to hide your tanks until you plan on Using them

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    Post  Belisarius Thu May 02, 2024 6:31 am

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Two HIMARS destroyed!

    Reconnaissance drone operators of the Russian Army are constantly working to identify the location of Ukrainian equipment.

    Another wait-and-see position of two Himars MLRS launchers was discovered in the village. Lelyukovka in the Kupyansky direction.

    The coordinates of the place were quickly transferred to Russian rocket scientists, who immediately sent two Iskander missiles there.

    The result is minus two Himars.

    https://t.me/myLordBebo/29731

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    Post  Hole Thu May 02, 2024 6:32 am

    There are casualties and possibly fatalities among the workers.
    Workers from NATO countries wearing camouflaged uniforms.

    Without it seperation distances massively increase.
    affraid
    Bad luck. Adapt, you suckers.

    Holly molly, Odessa strike was really something...
    Food items for starving people in Africa were stored in that area.  cry
    Russians are killing innocent civilians.  cry
    Now back to our coverage of the Israel/Hamas war where nothing evil is happening...

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    Post  Hole Thu May 02, 2024 6:35 am

    Russian rocket scientists
    lol1

    Two HIMARS destroyed!
    But we don´t see them burn so it didn´t happen!!!  Rolling Eyes

    Meanwhile Banderites claim they destroyed all Russian refineries and Russian tanks are running out of fuel and
    all westerners believe it.  clown

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu May 02, 2024 6:39 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Destroyed "Abrams" in the Berdychi area.

    https://t.me/intelslava/58805

    Cool

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 am

    What is funny is many experts try to predict the goal of Russian offensive - which BTW shoigu called it during a meeting of the MOD, switching from active defense to the term offensive now

    The funny thing is, while the operational goal of the advance is Pokrovsk, at least to the casual observer

    Ukraine still haven't committed its reserve yet, which it is accumulating now, and reports surface of appearance of battalions in the area

    The truth is, Ukrainian reserves can't do much, there's too few of them, and Russia can easily just start advancing in another direction and force them to relocate the reserves

    So Russia will rotate offensive fronts, as we see Rabotino fell, and in Pokrovsk direction there is ton of movement , Kharkov direction Kyslovka, Chasov Yar

    So in all directions will be the advance, as soon as Ukrainians commit reserves, the other fronts will move, and if they force a new front to open, then it will be so

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu May 02, 2024 9:29 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why is tank vs tank combat so rare in this war?

    Main reasons are fov drones are so common they are always looking and ranged anti weapos

    Basically you have to hide your tanks until you plan on Using them

    Pretty much, we are with tanks now where we were with dreadnoughts in the last world war. There were a few surface to surface engagements, but pretty much air power either decided a battle or played a huge role in it. An old swordfish bomber with a couple pilots crippled the pinnacle of German naval engineering at the fraction of the cost. Same happened repeatedly in the Pacific. We are there now in land war. Anyone with a shape charged armor piercing warhead and drone kit can now very cheaply (in mic terms 50,000 bucks is cheap) take out tanks which cost aeveral times as much

    The King of battle may still artillery, but the queen is now drones. The NATO propaganda whores despise drones, Russian and Iranian even more so, because their NATO standard armies and invincible super priced tanks no longer dominate the battle field, they litter it and burn on it.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu May 02, 2024 9:32 am

    https://russianfleetanalysis.blogspot.com/2024/03/russias-dnieper-river-flotilla.html?m=1

    Latest analysis on the dnepr flotilla, it seems that raptor boats with ATGM and KORD, Shmel boats with 76mm gun, quad plamya AGS, and many guns, as well as mobile Bereg guns and naval infantry will start to enforce a no sail zone in the Kinburn spit

    IMO this should have been done a long time ago, instead of using a cruiser for denial near Odessa

    The dnepr flotilla can accomplish many tasks

    1) prevent USV from being launched close to Crimea

    2) enforce a no shipping zone to Odessa

    3) strikes on Odessa resumed, so blocking its approaches is necessary

    In all, we see a return to striking Odessa, and implementation of a flotilla to perform denial tasks in the Kinburn spit, patrolling access to the mouth of the Dnieper, and preventing Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian shipping

    Who knows, we could also see a crossing when the offensive is well underway

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu May 02, 2024 9:32 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:What is funny is many experts try to predict the goal of Russian offensive - which BTW shoigu called it during a meeting of the MOD, switching from active defense to the term offensive now

    The funny thing is, while the operational goal of the advance is Pokrovsk, at least to the casual observer

    Ukraine still haven't committed its reserve yet, which it is accumulating now, and reports surface of appearance of battalions in the area

    The truth is, Ukrainian reserves can't do much, there's too few of them, and Russia can easily just start advancing in another direction and force them to relocate the reserves

    So Russia will rotate offensive fronts, as we see Rabotino fell, and in Pokrovsk direction there is ton of movement , Kharkov direction Kyslovka, Chasov Yar

    So in all directions will be the advance, as soon as Ukrainians commit reserves, the other fronts will move, and if they force a new front to open, then it will be so

    Optimism is good, but I hope Russia does not get as arrogantly hubristic with its forces as NATO has been with Ukraine's. That said, yeah I do think after a couple more months of making maidanburger out of Ukraine's new 4 week training wonders that Russia will be able to advance to the Dniepr.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu May 02, 2024 9:40 am

    umcvulcan wrote:

    Optimism is good, but I hope Russia does not get as arrogantly hubristic with its forces as NATO has been with Ukraine's.  That said, yeah I do think after a couple more months of making maidanburger out of Ukraine's new 4 week training wonders that Russia will be able to advance to the Dniepr.  

    Currently the main goal is to block the logistic hub of Pokrovsk , and to keep supplies from flowing to Konstantinovka and the Kramatorsk sector

    By doing this, the whole rear of the Ukrainian defense is cut off

    We see Ukrainians starting to throw reserves now, as Arkhangelskoye starts to come under assault

    Well we will see their prospects, but as I said, it's not only Pokrovsk they need to worry about

    But also Orekhov, Ugledar, Chasov Yar, Sinkovka

    They are under pressure in multiple sectors

    Wherever they choose to commit reserves, just hit pause, use FABS, and rotate to a new front

    You can always come back when Ukroids run out of local manpower

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 02, 2024 9:55 am

    Correct. Referendum was organised only after Istambul peace talks failure.
    Till then, it was an open case.

    That is what I am saying... when Russia agreed to return these regions they were still Ukrainian.

    Now they are not so they are no longer on the table because now they are Russian territory... which is probably a big part of why the people in these regions voted to join the Russian Federation.

    Honestly, I was kind of surprised about really modest Russian demands back in March 22.

    Blinken would have us believe the plan by Putin was to trick the west into this conflict so they could absorb the Ukraine and then go for other countries like the Baltic states and Poland and then who knows, but the reality is that most of this time Russia viewed this as a Ukrainian internal problem they wanted to help to sort out... they wanted Kiev to talk to its regions and sort this all out peacefully.

    Russia was not expanding, it was peace keeping on its border.

    It was HATO that was expanding and creating hostility and war, but I suspect this conflict was about the only way to separate the west from Russia and to fix the Ukraine... or the bits that matter.

    Then how does a heat seeking air to air missile work ? Does it home in on the Rocket motor or the Rocket plume ?

    The early ones needed a very hot source... the rear view of a jet exhaust... preferably in AB or reheat, but then flares were introduced and those hot magnesium flares were hotter than engines and distracted the missiles so the missile seekers needed to become more sophisticated and so they added things like UV filters (flares give off UV light as well as heat, while engines and aircraft hot parts give off heat), or they were designed to look for heat patterns of an aircraft rather than a point heat source of a flare, so planes started launching bunches of flares.

    I heard some devices are sensitive enough to tell the difference of 0.5 deg C ! What if AA or SAM could follow the plume ? The plume from an ATACMS ? Follow it to point of launch ? This one is static .

    The problem there is that these IR sensors sense the heat in objects but not the air itself, so the rocket motor plume might still be very hot but wont appear on an IR sensor... even an imaging one.

    It is vastly easier to detect an ATACMS by its radar signature and track it with radars already used by their SAMs in service and widely deployed... the ATACMS is a ballistic weapon which means it climbs up into the air and follows the path of a thrown stone with minor manouvers for accurately hitting its target... such weapons are not much different from shooting down a SCUD missile which they were able to do in the 1970s.

    In fact the SA-12 called S-300V in its old model was designed to hit ballistic weapons including Honest John II and other types so ATACMS is easy stuff.

    The export model S-300V called Antei-2500 has a range of up to 40km against ballistic targets and can hit targets with a RCS of 0.02m squared. Most importantly it can hit targets with a flight range of 2,500km with a velocity of 4.5 km per second.

    The west is not going to mention ATACMS because Kiev will be trying to hit the Crimean bridge with them and Russia will be shooting them down.

    5- Karl once again showing what an idiot he is by spewing Ukie propaganda.

    Give it a day or two and we will find out those were Ukrainian troops and it was Russian cluster munitions.

    Most of the footage I have seen that actually is Ukrainian cluster bombs the failure rate of the bomblets is incredible... a few puffs around the outside of the circle and all the rest nothing...

    It ceased to be funny anymore ...

    Those dragons teeth... more like chickens teeth...

    It looks like the CIA is lining up its next false flag. Some airliner will go down and it will be blamed on Russian GPS spoofing.

    Air traffic control in those regions should be able to direct flights to prevent collisions... let them work out their position the old fashioned way... ask the navigator...

    Russia promised military techncial consequences to Finland and Sweden, so there you have it. Suck it up. NO GPS for you, EVER.

    Ironically because of the satellite orbits GLONASS is actually rather better than GPS not just in northern areas but also in mountainous areas and also in built up areas with tall buildings. The elliptic path of the GLONASS satellites means they work better when your view of the sky is restricted or limited... I seem to remember Norway was actually working with Russia on GLONASS because it worked better than GPS... I guess that is over.

    Why is tank vs tank combat so rare in this war?

    Probably because there are so many things that can kill tanks on the battlefield they rarely get so close to the enemy armour to fire on them.

    Holly molly, Odessa strike was really something...

    When the target is ammo for artillery... you have HE and you have propellant... it would burn underwater...

    So in all directions will be the advance, as soon as Ukrainians commit reserves, the other fronts will move, and if they force a new front to open, then it will be so

    Russia will also likely target those reserves moving from place to place... long range rocket artillery with HE Frag and anti armour HEAT top attack cluster munitions are very effective for that.

    Wherever they choose to commit reserves, just hit pause, use FABS, and rotate to a new front

    When they commit reserves send in the glide bombs with the cluster munitions... wipe out those reserves, but I agree, hit in multiple places at once because you can because you have the forces and the ammo and they don't.

    When there are no reserves left they will have to start thinning people on the front line to bolster areas they want to defend.

    And keep hitting that ammo and new cargo as it arrives...

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