And here we go again with all this talk of shelters, in which no one advocating for them will bother to address the fact that planes are not going to stay inside shelters 24/7, and that FPV drone operators can simply wait for the moment when the aircraft will be leaving/out of a shelter to attack.
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And here we go again with all this talk of shelters, in which no one advocating for them will bother to address the fact that planes are not going to stay inside shelters 24/7, and that FPV drone operators can simply wait for the moment when the aircraft will be leaving/out of a shelter to attack.
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Belisarius wrote:Two low resolution satellite photos published by people who have already been caught multiple times using Photoshop don't prove shit, unless someone at the base posts a photo, nothing happened.
And here we go again with all this talk of shelters, in which no one advocating for them will bother to address the fact that planes are not going to stay inside shelters 24/7, and that FPV drone operators can simply wait for the moment when the aircraft will be leaving/out of a shelter to attack.
The best way would be to also publish your own Satellite photos.
Big problem is that it cost money to purchase the imageries which i'll be honest typical Russian OSINT seems not doing, they instead rely on those having access to the imagery which more than often Western affiliated.
These guys know that and so does the Satellite imagery company which later crack on them and constrain what they can publish.
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This message is appearing again today on many Ukrainian TG channels - the Ukrainians are extremely disappointed.
Only 20 F-16 pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force are to be ready by the end of the year, according to Politico Another year and a half is needed to fully provide the pilots for about 80 F-16s that will be handed over to Ukraine.
The US Air Force has officially announced that it has no training slots for more than 12 pilots for the period 2023-2024. Denmark will train 8 pilots by the end of the year.
The solution - international pilots fly Ukraine's F-16s. And why not, the russians also deployed soldiers from many countries.
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The F-16 story is such a useless exercise anyway. They may as well convert the planes into kamikaze drones and get it over and done with. Same goes for the Mirage 2000's.
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Stealthflanker wrote:At this point might as well deploy from NATO bases. Ukrainian bases may subject to bombardement and cluster munition strike.
What NATO bases
These are Ukrainian F-16s and Ukrainian Mirages that will be flying from Ukrainian bases in Poland and Romania to attack Russian targets.
Believable cover story everyone.
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Volkssturm
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Jokes aside, this sort of pics we could have seen in the peak of the Syrian war, back in 2016.
It was a country that had already drilled off the population because millions had already emigrated, stayed in the territories not ruled by the central government, etc.
Russkie saved the Syrian regime through effective operation.
There is no visible sign that it can repeat for 404.
JohninMK wrote:WTF is this?
I wouldn't pay much attention to that.
This sort of shit has been used there as early as WWI.
I suppose it is some sort of social code that we won't get, maybe our Russkie team can enlighten us.
Anyway, the same pics were revealed for Chechen wars as well.
I would call it propaganda.
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Absolutely harrowing
ALAMO wrote:Jokes aside, this sort of pics we could have seen in the peak of the Syrian war, back in 2016.
It was a country that had already drilled off the population because millions had already emigrated, stayed in the territories not ruled by the central government, etc.
Russkie saved the Syrian regime through effective operation.
There is no visible sign that it can repeat for 404.
Where's the joke?
Volkssturm is exactly what it is
At least until they bite the bullet and start drafting men younger than 25, and women, and shove even more of the General Staff into front-line officer positions, and some of the police/border guards/etc... into front-line infantry too, etc..
Which is a matter of time of course
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It is not funny anymore, for a long time.
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Again: only non-active (not flying this day) aircraft are parked in shelters.all military airfields could be equipped with concrete shelters for aircraft.
Active planes will always stand along the flightline.
BS. The ratio was 10:1 in favor of Russia a year ago.Kotenow TG claims in some places 20:1 for orcs.
Doesn´t work that way. The society/economy in Banderaland is already on the brink of collapse.men alone is enough for 2 years , then women
BShe russians also deployed soldiers from many countries.
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At least until they bite the bullet and start drafting men younger than 25, and women, and shove even more of the General Staff into front-line officer positions, and some of the police/border guards/etc... into front-line infantry too, etc..
Which is a matter of time of course
I like this approach. Instead of killing the Ukro occupiers/ squatters in their homes, kill them on the frontlines, this gives Russia a more legitimate case to exterminate the enemy. Once all hostile inhabitants in Ukraine have been degraded to extinction, Russification of the entire territory should be easier.
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flamming_python wrote:
We're now starting to see more vehicles with EW equipment, but the war has been on for nearly 2.5 years already, and even then this vehicle-mounted equipment is not ubiquitous.
I understand that T-72s and T-64s and AK-74s and so on are perfectly adequate for the task. I'm not saying that all the hardware has to be the latest gen. But surely attaching EW masts to everything is not demanding too much. Nor for equipping every squad with a EW gun. This should have all been done long ago.
Even if EW devices are installed on each and every logistic vehicle, it won't help much—a heavy truck won't change trajectory fast enough to avoid a hit.
EW, I'm afraid, is no silver bullet. As far as I know, it only cuts the line of communication between the FPV and the operator. If finds the right frequency. Considering videos of attacks, this is done in the very last tens of meters. So, with a high-speed dive, it's not really helpful. Besides, not every soldier can use it. Imagine an assault team going to storm a building; if they are spotted, there's little chance of survival. Last but not least, in order to use an EW gun or shotgun, you need to see the FPV first.
Perhaps fighter drones after all?
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Hole wrote:
BS. The ratio was 10:1 in favor of Russia a year ago.Kotenow TG claims in some places 20:1 for orcs.
In FPV? It was never 10:1. The West always pushed tons of drones there. 20:1 is unlikely to me, but even if it's 1:1, it's frightening to think how many Russians might die in assaults because of that crap. Did you check the Russian TG channels like Fighterbomber, 2 Majora, or Archangel of Spetsnaz? In every one of them, they collect money for extra equipment like night vision, body armor, FPV drones, or even cars. It doesn't look like there's an abundance of that...
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Kotenow TG claims in some places 20:1 for orcs.
did this mean 20 NATO drones for every 1 Russian? Highly likely a propaganda piece, which NATO country has the drone production capacity that can match China or Russia? If the FPV drones are sourced from Global south countries, then Russia can also source from them.
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Some "patriotic" nazi scums in the ukroTV are confirming that.
Sure, one of the reasons is bleaching the failure, but still.
One more nothing burger from "concern trolling TG patriotic channels".
"gimmie more donations, I am the best whining pussy!"
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ALAMO wrote:Metaphor bro.
It is not funny anymore, for a long time.
Before it was a metaphor. Now it's actually what it is
GunshipDemocracy wrote:
Even if EW devices are installed on each and every logistic vehicle, it won't help much—a heavy truck won't change trajectory fast enough to avoid a hit.
EW, I'm afraid, is no silver bullet. As far as I know, it only cuts the line of communication between the FPV and the operator. If finds the right frequency. Considering videos of attacks, this is done in the very last tens of meters. So, with a high-speed dive, it's not really helpful. Besides, not every soldier can use it. Imagine an assault team going to storm a building; if they are spotted, there's little chance of survival. Last but not least, in order to use an EW gun or shotgun, you need to see the FPV first.
Perhaps fighter drones after all?
Well have them installed on every 2nd vehicle first, then we can talk about their effectiveness or lack of it
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'Dopamine deep strike' is an excellent analogy of what the Ukraine(NATO) does every time Russia advances, they rarely hit anything that will help them out on the battlefield but it makes for good optics in the face of Pro-West Sheeple, desperate Ukroaches and the implacable Doomers.Stealthflanker wrote:Well, expect more Dopamine deep strike as Russians advance.
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JohninMK wrote:Reality intruding? The USAF say that they have other customers too.
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This message is appearing again today on many Ukrainian TG channels - the Ukrainians are extremely disappointed.
Only 20 F-16 pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force are to be ready by the end of the year, according to Politico Another year and a half is needed to fully provide the pilots for about 80 F-16s that will be handed over to Ukraine.
The US Air Force has officially announced that it has no training slots for more than 12 pilots for the period 2023-2024. Denmark will train 8 pilots by the end of the year.
The solution - international pilots fly Ukraine's F-16s. And why not, the russians also deployed soldiers from many countries.
I think even proficient F-16 pilots that know how old those planes are know its a suicide mission.
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Belisarius wrote:The Russian Armed Forces entered the Sumy region and occupied the village of Ryzhevka.
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Nice advance
Energy has been cut off to the region
We will see another big push to attrite more Ukrainians
Coincidentally Macron and Scholz were handed devastating defeats in the elections today
Is it a peremoha or a zrada?
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Now NATO is claiming that the Russian AWACS that crashed in January was a result of Patriot missile interception
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Russia needs to Punish NATO every time it opens its Squalid mouth to spew Lies and Propaganda. Kill 1000 NATO personnel in Ukraine in the next 24 hours to make NATO command squirm in disbelief
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