Russian special military operation in Ukraine #58

The Russian Armed Forces, using Iskander, destroyed two Patriot installations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Odessa

Russian troops destroyed two launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Odessa region. Footage of the Russian army at work was published by Izvestia on Saturday, July 6.

Patriot installations were destroyed near the settlement of Yuzhnoye using Iskander operational-tactical missile systems. Russian forces also struck the Giraffe radar station. The goal was achieved.

https://iz.ru/1723663/2024-07-06/vs-rf-s-pomoshchiu-iskandera-unichtozhili-dve-ustanovki-patriot-vsu-pod-odessoi

Let's wrap it up: first 2 launchers of S-300, radars and ~ 40 personnel (imho it could be bigger loss than missiles themselves)

That's what I call a good weekend

Russia ran out if tanks almost a year ago according to Ukrainian sources.

So maybe there are no more tanks. I mean, we don't even get postings of tanks going to the front anymore.

Russia ran out of missiles too.

They lost so much equipment the counter turned negative and overflowed. The simulation now thinks the Russians have infinite armor so the niggas are standing up divisions after another every goddamn month.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php

The Top 10 ranking might be more or less accurate, but the rest of the list is highly dubious

For example, there is absolutely NO Way that the Philippines is ahead of North Korea (or even Myanmar) in terms of military power LOL  

thegopnik wrote:thanks all anyways wanted like a 2024 source to shut all the other retards up with their delusions.

I was under the impression that you simply wanted to stick that stupid site in our face and do some concern trolling about how Russia is being beaten in the Ukraine

What '2024 source' do you want exactly, thegopnik? You might as well fabricate one yourself, because I can assure you all the others are fabricated by whatever side with whatever agenda.

Soldier is apparently now safe in a Rostov hospital. Brave man. He limped away so probably already wounded. Effective AT mine munition against buildings.

Perhaps a longer delay with the fuse...

A simple solution would be to attach those TM-62's to a drone, though it has to be strong enough to carry almost 11kg. One Russian soldier is worth more than 100 expendable drones.

A couple of ground based drones would make more sense... one to drive up to a wall and push the mine against the wall to detonate it... it could then drive away and be reused, and perhaps a second ground based drone with a mechanism to throw the mine a few metres and it could drive up to the new hole in the wall and launch it inside the building and then drive off too...

Very brave but it makes me wonder what happened to RPO-A's and other disposable thermobaric weapons?

I am guessing the lack of enemy armour and vehicles means they have enormous stacks of these mines and they are coming up with creative ways of using them effectively.

The RPOs and other rocket propelled weapons give a standoff capacity, when you can sneak right up to the enemy position then why waste RPGs when you can use land mines instead?

In afghanistan the Soviets used landmines to lower down into tunnel complexes and detonate.

It was just HE they had spare lying around.

How about putting an explosive on a long stick?

They did that for anti tank use as well... it might as well have been in a backpack... the survival rates of the operators was poor.

besides knowing that 700k troops are in the operation, anyone got like a clear number on tanks the word around defensehub.live and the pro-ukraine(not pro-russian war thread) war thread suggest Russia is getting close running out of tanks

Yeah, the Russians are running out of tanks, that is why they are talking about unconditional surrender.... NOT.

The lack of Ukrainian tanks means Russian tanks would not be so critical... they essentially use them as direct fire artillery most of the time now anyway.

The posts on corruption a few pages back will be moved to a more suitable thread...

Corruption posts here.

One side has roving bands of press gangs conscripting people - men, women, the elderly, the sick and disabled and even children off the street. The **** do you think is happening?

flamming_python wrote:
I was under the impression that you simply wanted to stick that stupid site in our face and do some concern trolling about how Russia is being beaten in the Ukraine
What '2024 source' do you want exactly, thegopnik? You might as well fabricate one yourself, because I can assure you all the others are fabricated by whatever side with whatever agenda.

I will always remind you what Musk said at Twitter transaction.
Bots made 80% of the Twitter traffic.
It works perfectly same for Facebook, and my educated guess is that it works similarly for other platforms - forums included.
Maybe the entry level is slightly higher and requires more advanced algorithms or AI generated content, because forums generate slightly closer relations.
Sometimes if you read a comment and wonder how is it possible for someone to be so stupid - remember that the propaganda does not have to be smart.
To cover the fact checks, it must be only overwhelming in numbers and attacking from all directions.
If any piece of information is being covered by tens of comments, people with a different opinion either shut up or reconsider - if everyone is thinking the other way, it must be something wrong with my opinion!
That is why some people are still seeing banderastan winning a war that decomposed this sad place.

Edit : Patriots&Giraffe Gunship mentioned up there.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/115513

There is one more system called "Spada", but something does not add up to me. Spada 2000 is operated with angeler containers, and here we see vertical ones. Too big for Iris, so if you are asking me I would bet on S-300

PhSt wrote:

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php

The Top 10 ranking might be more or less accurate, but the rest of the list is highly dubious

For example, there is absolutely NO Way that the Philippines is ahead of North Korea (or even Myanmar) in terms of military power LOL  

South Africa tops the list you posted at number 33. Well I can tell you there is no ways that SA's military can be listed above the likes of North Korea!
Our heavily sanctioned neighbour Zimbabwe is probably in a better position to wage a war against South Africa. We currently have a peace keeping force in the DRC at the moment and it is getting hammered against the rebels.

Like what's so hard for Russia to say we have 700k troops and Ukraine is at the 100k figure range with their recruiters trying hard to get more bodies or Ukraine states their numbers and how much Russian troops they think are left, or even a 3rd party country giving that info like from NATO. This shit just seems fishy to me man like it was a pre-arranged war with people in the know already knowing the results through some agreements.

Information is power, telling your enemy how many men you have and how many tanks you have is about as stupid as telling them where they fucking are positioned and what time they have naps.

The fact you think they should release such information, which would get them put in prison based on their own rules, and more importantly get some of their own guys killed and help their enemies to better plan their attacks and defences, shows you are a child.

We wont know any details about this conflict till it is over and even then for some time information will be a state secret because things like force strength and production rates are critical state secrets no one would want to release.

The very concept that Ukraine and Russia might decide to have a war to upset you because you don't know which force structure each side has is ridiculous... as dumb as the idiots who think there is an all powerful council of people who run the world. You think anyone runs the world?

Many would love to but even spending almost a trillion US dollars every yet the US doesn't even come close... it runs the west... perhaps 13% of the dumbest fucks on the planet do as the US tells them all the time... and those dumb are called the west.

We don't know the force levels of each side because it is a war... do you think any country would allow its military secrets be broadcast internationally in the middle of a war?

That stupid site suggests Russia has 7-10 times more rockets, missiles, shells and tanks than Ukraine which is why I am questioning users here if they think that validation is right.

They are guessing, so of course they are wrong, but no one who knows the real answer is going to mention it on the internet... that sort of thing can get you arrested by both sides, because the Russians wont want the world knowing how strong they are just yet, and the Ukrainians wont want the world to know how weak they are...

The Top 10 ranking might be more or less accurate, but the rest of the list is highly dubious

Most of the traffic for such websites is western who want to hear their tax money is being well spent... expecting such sites to accurately portray the truth is like expecting the companies in the US who determine the state of a countries economy to provide accurate information about that country or any other country that country does not like.

I would argue that in terms of invasion capacity compared with defence capacity many countries would jump around that list for lots of different reasons, but then even quite minor changes could shift a country too.

It is all just bullshit and ego anyway.

Mir wrote:Very brave but it makes me wonder what happened to RPO-A's and other disposable thermobaric weapons?

Used widely, but mines are more abundant and turned into satchel charges, have unmached devasting effects even when not in confinded spaces. Usually they clear basements with these, where RPO wouldn’t be optimal due to angle and etc

OT but here is a sample of the current situation in our once fairly mighty air force looks like. Keep in mind we don't have any sanctions against us!
PS - it's probably even worse

Inevitably shit happens

Many a true word said in jest. Except its the German farmers sending the Ukrainian farmers to die for them.

Rich but depleted in iodine. An element key for brain development and general health.

The target range of the Su-30SM2 has almost doubled. After the delivery of a new batch to one of the military units, the Patriot complex was hit on the third day.
Starting next year, all CM2S will be produced with engines from the Su-35 and Su-57 of the first stage.
There are crews who flew more than 500 and more than 700 sorties on the Su-30SM/CM2, including they performed tasks to open the positional areas of enemy air defenses.
The Su-30SM2 is now being produced at the factory at a pace that has never been before.
Su-30 pilots: we are ready for the appearance of the F-16, and even waiting for it, because everyone wants to be the first to shoot down the F-16. Our aircraft are superior in maneuverability, armament, and we have more advanced sighting systems. We understand that they will try to set up ambushes - and we have been preparing for this for a long time.

JohninMK wrote:Inevitably shit happens

I scanned this morning like 6 Russian TGs and nothing's there...pity this nazi didn't mention which ones.